| gmann | dansmith: did not realize, can you add your +1 in 'Rollcall-Vote' too - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/825257 | 01:04 |
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| dansmith | y | 01:04 |
| gmann | thanks | 01:05 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Fix hardcoded extlinks link error in sphinx 4.4.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/825257 | 01:16 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Starting the 'Z' release naming process https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/824201 | 01:35 |
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| opendevreview | Brin Zhang proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Redirect to the correct hyperlink https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/825430 | 07:28 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/project-team-guide master: Redirect to the correct hyperlink https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/825430 | 08:57 |
| lourot | o/ (from Canonical, working on the OpenStack charms) is there a plan to have a coordinated effort to rename the git master branches to main? | 13:20 |
| fungi | lourot: i don't think one has been discussed yet. the opendev collaboratory has talked about switching its initial default branch name for any newly-created repositories if and when the git project officially changes its own default | 13:27 |
| fungi | renaming branches in nearly a thousand related openstack repositories would be a massive undertaking however. i wouldn't be surprised if we needed to take an entire release cycle just to focus on the fallout from it | 13:28 |
| lourot | thank you! | 14:22 |
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| gmann | tc-members: meeting time | 15:00 |
| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jan 20 15:00:10 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 15:00 |
| ade_lee_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| gmann | lourot: as fungi mentioned we have not discussed it yet. feel free to add it in TC meeting agenda (we can discuss next time or today also if you are ok) | 15:01 |
| gmann | today mentioned absence: Amy Marrich (spotz), Rico Lin (ricolin) | 15:02 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 15:02 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:02 |
| gmann | let's start | 15:03 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions | 15:03 |
| gmann | today agenda ^^ | 15:03 |
| gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:03 |
| gmann | gmann to remove the SIG i18 topic from meeting agenda | 15:03 |
| gmann | it is done | 15:03 |
| gmann | #topic Gate health check | 15:04 |
| gmann | any news on gate | 15:04 |
| gmann | one is centos stream 8 issue. | 15:04 |
| gmann | with devstack workaround by yatin, we have tempest/nova centos stream job 8 working fine | 15:04 |
| gmann | and they are voting again | 15:04 |
| dansmith | I haven't had anything through the gate in a week, but only because of me, not the gate :) | 15:04 |
| fungi | there was also a centos stream 8 package/index issue for a good chunk of today, but should hopefully have abated now | 15:05 |
| fungi | details on the ml | 15:06 |
| gmann | k | 15:06 |
| strigazi | o/ | 15:07 |
| gmann | on stable, I am trying to cap on stable/train and testing it in many project #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22train-tempest-cap%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged) | 15:07 |
| gmann | currently master tempest is used which can stop working on stavle/train anytime | 15:07 |
| gmann | stable/train | 15:07 |
| gmann | fix seems working but need more result before we merge it | 15:07 |
| gmann | anything else on this topic? | 15:08 |
| gmann | let's move next | 15:09 |
| gmann | #topic Z Release Cycle Name | 15:09 |
| gmann | we are little late on that due to holidays and all sorry about that | 15:10 |
| gmann | now we have started the process #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-January/026620.html | 15:10 |
| jungleboyj | \o/ | 15:10 |
| gmann | schedule is also merged #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/824201 | 15:10 |
| gmann | to summary: | 15:10 |
| gmann | nomination will be closed on 24th jan, election from 25th to 1st Feb | 15:10 |
| gmann | and as discussed, we will continue with the existing process of 'electorate as TC only' | 15:11 |
| gmann | but as discussed in PTG, we will work on the new process change for release naming soon. | 15:12 |
| gmann | belmoreira will be putting it up for review, but no hurry. | 15:12 |
| gmann | here are the proposed name (not yet final) #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/Z_Proposals | 15:13 |
| diablo_rojo | Makes sense that the changeover would happen with the alphabet turnover | 15:13 |
| jungleboyj | ++ | 15:13 |
| belmoreira | +1 | 15:13 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:13 |
| gmann | But please review the names and add in 'Proposed Names that do not meet the criteria' section if they are not eligible names as per criteira | 15:14 |
| gmann | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html#release-name-criteria | 15:14 |
| gmann | before we start the election, may be on friday I will ask community also to check the same and let us know if any offending name due to culture/history etc | 15:15 |
| gmann | this friday I mean | 15:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Good call. | 15:16 |
| jungleboyj | I can't believe all the proposals! | 15:16 |
| gmann | also one things, Z release schedule is also prepared by elodilles and under review, feel free to add your feedback #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/824489 | 15:16 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: indeed, I was thinking may be we will get hardly 5-10 names due to Z letter or our time constraints | 15:17 |
| gmann | but having lot of names show clearly community is much interested in release names they will be working one | 15:17 |
| gmann | that is all on this from me, anything else to discuss or any other process/step/work I missed here? | 15:18 |
| gmann | if nothing, let's move next | 15:19 |
| gmann | #topic Z cycle Technical Elections | 15:19 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/825017/4 | 15:19 |
| gmann | I have pushed the election schedule, please review and check | 15:20 |
| gmann | and we need two volunteer from TC to run this election | 15:20 |
| gmann | I am available but I will be helping as coordinating way wherever need help but will not be able to lead | 15:20 |
| gmann | proposed my name as election official #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/825009 | 15:21 |
| diablo_rojo | I am happy to help advise/support, but I will be super busy with PTG things at that point so I can't volunteer to run it. | 15:21 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: ack. advice/support will be great help. | 15:21 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: I think you were interested last time? are you available to help? | 15:22 |
| jungleboyj | I think it was spotz and I that went through some education before the last one? | 15:22 |
| jungleboyj | Though I don't remember what I learned. Think it is all pretty well documented, right? | 15:23 |
| gmann | yeah, spotz is up for TC terms this time so she might not be able to be official | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | Oh, that is right. | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. I can volunteer to help out. | 15:23 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: I think so, mine also first time but we can take help of diablo_rojo if any question | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | gmann: Ok. I will join you. :-) | 15:24 |
| diablo_rojo | Yes definitely | 15:24 |
| gmann | cool, thanks jungleboyj | 15:24 |
| diablo_rojo | I will be able to help answer questions + give direction | 15:24 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Sounds good. :-) | 15:24 |
| belmoreira | i did it last time, but still considering if I will re run | 15:24 |
| gmann | and I think ianychoi[m] is also there and helena too to help | 15:24 |
| belmoreira | jungleboyj I can help with my experience from the last time | 15:25 |
| gmann | belmoreira: thanks. that will be great. may be once schedule is merged, we can start the meeting for that. | 15:25 |
| jungleboyj | Sweet. So, sounds like we have plenty of help to get gmann and I up to speed. | 15:25 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:25 |
| gmann | please review the schedule #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/825017/4 | 15:26 |
| gmann | current election official as well as TC | 15:26 |
| gmann | anything else on this? | 15:26 |
| fungi | feel free to reach out to me with questions too | 15:26 |
| gmann | sure, thanks | 15:27 |
| gmann | #topic Adjutant need PTLs and maintainers | 15:27 |
| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-October/025555.html | 15:27 |
| gmann | no updates on this | 15:27 |
| gmann | I will remove it from agenda and we will see during release or next election if there is no PTL or so.. | 15:27 |
| gmann | #topic Open Reviews | 15:28 |
| diablo_rojo | At that point we remove the project? | 15:28 |
| gmann | dansmith: no, continue in current state | 15:28 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: ^^ | 15:28 |
| gmann | elodilles: mentioned there is ok for release as release team does in past too. | 15:28 |
| gmann | so let's have Yoga release (unless any issues occur) and during next cycle PTL election or assignment we will discuss it based on situation | 15:29 |
| gmann | like we do for any projects lacking leadership or maintainer | 15:29 |
| gmann | so nothing blocking in Yoga for now | 15:30 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo yeah after Yoga, we will see the situation. (I did not notice you mentioned 'At that time') | 15:31 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:31 |
| gmann | we have 4 open reviewsd | 15:32 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/822900 | 15:32 |
| gmann | let's discuss tag one first | 15:32 |
| gmann | I did review on WIP one as yoctozepto proposed and left some comment | 15:32 |
| diablo_rojo | gmann, okay makes sense | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: thanks, I also replied | 15:33 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: I agree on the tag used in website. I think we can update the link there to point to doc instead of tag? | 15:33 |
| gmann | like stable policy field/question is also pointed to stable policy doc not to tag | 15:33 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: yeah, I guess more-or-less moving these sensible ones might make sense | 15:33 |
| yoctozepto | and dropping others | 15:33 |
| yoctozepto | now it's surely dropping too much | 15:34 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: you mean to keep those (VMT ) tag and so does tag framework and remove rest of others? | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: well, we can move them to docs but we can also keep them around in this change and iterate | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | this way we can remove some parts without affecting releases | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | and then remove more | 15:35 |
| dansmith | surely that would only be a stopgap? | 15:35 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: I see. sure that is good plan | 15:35 |
| dansmith | okay yeah | 15:35 |
| dansmith | "and then remove more" was the important part :) | 15:35 |
| gmann | and once we update the release script and website then we can remove completly | 15:36 |
| jungleboyj | ++ | 15:36 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: exactly | 15:36 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: can you please update the patch accordingly and we can review. | 15:36 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: sure thing | 15:37 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: thanks | 15:37 |
| gmann | two reviews from ricolin who is not here in meeting but I have added my comment for project health tool | 15:37 |
| gmann | one open review and need review is FIPS goal #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/816587 | 15:38 |
| gmann | ade_lee_: anything you want to mention about it or just waiting for us to review/vote | 15:38 |
| ade_lee_ | I put in a new version that I think addresses the issues raised before | 15:38 |
| ade_lee_ | but yeah, just waiting for review/vote | 15:38 |
| gmann | ade_lee_: thanks for that. | 15:39 |
| gmann | tc-members ^^ please review and provide your feedback. | 15:39 |
| gmann | or if any question, ade_lee_ is here and we have ~20 min left in meeting | 15:40 |
| gmann | if nothing, let's review the proposal | 15:41 |
| gmann | that is all from me today, anything else to discuss ? | 15:41 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from me. | 15:42 |
| yoctozepto | nor from me | 15:42 |
| gmann | ok, let's close the meeting, | 15:42 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you! | 15:42 |
| gmann | thanks everyone for joining and stay safe | 15:42 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jan 20 15:42:51 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-01-20-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-01-20-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-01-20-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks gmann! | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | thanks gmann | 15:47 |
| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/governance master: [WIP-but-please-review] Remove the tags framework https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/822900 | 17:15 |
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