Thursday, 2021-10-28

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opendevreviewGhanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Update Yoga testing runtime  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81585114:38
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opendevreviewGhanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Update Yoga testing runtime  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81585114:56
gmanntc-members: meeting in ~3 min from now14:57
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dpawlik\o14:58
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gmann#startmeeting tc 15:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Thu Oct 28 15:00:03 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'tc'15:00
gmann#Topic Roll call15:00
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gmannlet's start15:01
gmann#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions15:01
gmanntoday agenda ^^15:01
gmann#topic Follow up on past action items15:01
gmannnone from previous meeting15:01
gmann#topic PTG summary & Yoga tracker15:02
gmannI sent the PTG summary over ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-October/025554.html15:02
gmannand uploaded recording also on youtube 15:02
gmann#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQRKYummsHM15:02
gmann#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHj7cpBlbYo15:02
gmann#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT492bi6Xto15:03
gmannfor Yoga tracker, I have created the etherpad to track the items #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-yoga-tracker15:03
gmannwe did not get much time in PTG to ask for assignments 15:04
yoctozeptothat's an understatement :-)15:04
gmannbut please assign the time to you which you would like to work on 15:04
gmannand in next weekly meeting we will start tracking over those. and then biweekly 15:05
gmann:)15:05
yoctozeptomakes sense to me15:05
ricolinsorry I'm late15:06
jungleboyjo/  Again.15:06
gmannand RBAC discussion we are continuing form where we left in PTG #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-October/025569.html15:06
gmanno/15:06
jungleboyjSorry, got pulled away for a minute.15:06
gmannplease vote your available time on doodle 15:07
gmannanything else on PTG side?15:08
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jungleboyjDo you have a link to that Doodle Poll?15:08
yoctozeptohttps://doodle.com/poll/6xicntb9tu657nz715:09
jungleboyjThank you.  :-)15:09
gmannyoctozepto: thanks15:09
belmoreirawe didn't have a lot of time to discuss the operator feedback. When are we going to discuss this?15:09
yoctozeptonext week?15:10
gmannbelmoreira: we will continue discussion on that in weekly meeting. I will add it in agenda for next video call on 4th Nov15:10
gmannyeah15:10
belmoreirathanks15:11
spotz_Poll done:)15:12
gmannthanks15:12
gmann#topic Gate health check15:12
gmannany gate failure we saw?15:12
gmannI did not notice any this week15:13
gmannI pushed the patch to update the testing runtime for yoga #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81585115:13
gmannOnce it is merged then I will send it to ML so that if any project have failing py39 job then they can fix it before we update the yoga job template15:14
yoctozeptoI'm much less involved with the gates nowadays so can't tell :-(15:14
jungleboyjI haven't seen issues.15:15
gmannok.15:15
gmann#topic Project Health checks framework15:15
gmannwe have an agreement on this what we discussed in PTG15:16
gmannlet's review the ricolin patch for tool which we will use for data collection when we see project is not doing good and not publish that anywhere.15:16
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81003715:17
ricolinthx15:17
gmannI will review after meeting15:17
jungleboyjricolin: I will look as well.15:17
gmannthanks 15:18
gmann#topic Stable team process change15:18
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81072115:18
jungleboyjJust need some more votes there it looks like.15:19
gmannI would like more votes on this and once it is merged then I will send it on ML for project to know the process change and they can work on their stable branch team if they are facing less review issue15:19
gmannI pinged Elod also to have a look into latest version15:20
gmannanything else on this?15:20
jungleboyjNothing from me.15:21
gmann#topic Adjutant need PTLs and maintainers15:21
gmann#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-October/025555.html15:21
gmannAdrian sent email also about someone needs to lead/maintain Adjutant project15:22
gmannalso pinged in IRC this week15:22
gmannI did not see any response on ML yet15:23
yoctozeptowell, there is no ready candidate15:23
spotz_ neither15:23
spotz_me neither...15:23
gmannseems so15:23
gmannlet's wait for the a week or so then we will be more clear if anyone would like to help or not15:24
gmannif someone from Catalystcloud company 15:24
jungleboyj*Fingers crossed*15:24
yoctozeptowhat if nobody steps up?15:26
gmannthen we have no choice other than retiring it 15:26
gmannand if anyone use/want to maintain it they can re-apply the project addition 15:26
yoctozeptoand the life cycle goes on and on and on :-)15:27
gmann:)15:27
gmann#topic Open Reviews15:27
fungiit could switch to dpl model, but still needs volunteers for the dpl roles15:27
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open15:27
gmannI do not think there is any other maintainer than adrian15:28
gmanndpl or PTL model does not really matter here15:28
gmannwe have few open reviews which are ready for vote, like stable process one 15:29
gmannplease review them and for others which are open for more than a week I will add them to agenda in meeting to discuss15:30
gmannthat is all from my side today, anything else from any one?15:30
gmannone thing,  next meeting is video call15:30
gmannon 4th Nov15:31
jungleboyjSounds good.15:31
gmannok, let's close then. thanks all for joining.15:32
gmann#endmeeting15:32
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ricolinthankx gmann 15:32
yoctozeptothanks gmann15:32
jungleboyjThanks everyone!15:32
clarkbgmann: I think you can remove your WIP from https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81531815:32
gmannclarkb: checking.15:33
belmoreirathanks gmann15:33
spotz_Thanks gmann and everyone!15:33
gmannclarkb: dpawlik done, one comment for github miror https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/815024/3/zuul.d/projects.yaml15:38
clarkbgmann: thanks15:39
clarkbdpawlik: the unittest jobs can and should all go in repo but the github mirror jobs need to go in project-config iirc15:39
dpawlikclarkb: do you have any example of such configuration?15:41
dpawliks/of/with/15:41
clarkbdpawlik: https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/branch/master/zuul.d/projects.yaml#L3537-L354015:42
gmannyeah15:42
fungidpawlik: which configuration, the in-repository project pipelines, or the github mirror job addition being in project-config?15:42
dpawlikfungi: github mirror15:44
dpawlikwill check the openstack documentation. Probably I miss one step somewhere15:44
fungiyeah, the official-openstack-repo-jobs template includes just the openstack-upload-github-mirror job currently15:45
clarkbthe link I posted is an example of a project that only includes that template15:46
fungihttps://docs.openstack.org/infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/project-templates.html#project_template-official-openstack-repo-jobs15:47
fungiand the description does indeed confirm it has to be added to openstack/project-config15:47
dpawlikack. I'll check it out and try to fix it soon15:47
gmannthanks 15:48
fungipresumably because it uses shared github credentials for push replication, so needs to be protected by being set in a trusted config repo15:48
dpawlikthanks for advice. I will do patch tomorrow, today I need to leave15:51
fungihave a good evening!15:53
dpawlikthank you and you too!15:55
opendevreviewMerged openstack/governance master: Add openstack/ci-log-processing project into TaCT  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81531815:57
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opendevreviewGhanshyam proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: Mark 'Technical Writing' SIG complete as it is merged into TC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance-sigs/+/81586816:57
opendevreviewGhanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Merge 'Technical Writing' SIG into TC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81586916:58
opendevreviewGhanshyam proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: Mark 'Technical Writing' SIG complete as it is merged into TC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance-sigs/+/81586817:00
fungianybody know the current situation with regard to attempts to incorporate "auc" as extra-atc entries in the tc electorate following the dissolution of the uc? i recall it being discussed as an option, but i don't ever remember seeing anyone do it17:29
gmannwe have re-structured that as 'AC' which is AUC + ATC. Yeah, we do not have anyone added more AC from users side but anyone can propose those and TC will review it17:34
gmannhttps://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/charter.html#voters-for-tc-seats-ac17:35
gmannthis ^^ is definition and process to add as AC from non-code contributors side17:36
fungiright, i just didn't know if there was anyone actively working to add aucs to the electorate17:39
fungiit came up because a script the foundation had been maintaining to assemble auc lists for uc elections broke some time back due to changes in the meetup api, so are scrapping that script for now since nobody's asked for anything from it17:40
fungii suppose if someone in the community decides to work on listing aucs, then they can help fix up the script at that point17:42
gmannok. I am not sure if someone will go to the complete list and propose them all (if anyone does then good), otherwise I see it more from AC side itself  either to propose them by sending email to the TC chair . or some AC send set of ACs they know.17:44
gmannIf any AUC see no voting rights then this is the way, propose yourself (or few more AC you know) as AC and then we will review it. 17:46
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opendevreviewGhanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Update Yoga testing runtime  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/81585122:26
opendevreviewAmy Marrich proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Creation of Technical Guide and Unified Limites placehoolder  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/81592123:57

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