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| gmann | tc-members: meeting time | 14:59 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jul 1 15:00:04 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| mnaser | (kinda here :]) | 15:00 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 15:00 |
| * dansmith is here but not really | 15:00 | |
| * gmann ah remember now its holiday today here :) | 15:00 | |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions | 15:01 |
| gmann | this ^^ is today agenda | 15:01 |
| gmann | let's start | 15:01 |
| gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:01 |
| gmann | no action item from previous meeting | 15:02 |
| gmann | #topic Gate health check (dansmith/yoctozepto) | 15:02 |
| gmann | any news on gate health | 15:02 |
| spotz | o/ | 15:02 |
| jungleboyj | The Cinder team has a couple of patches for the LVM crashes that are up and have been merged. | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | Continue to work those. | 15:03 |
| mnaser | sweet | 15:03 |
| gmann | nice | 15:03 |
| yoctozepto | I haven't heard complaints recently | 15:03 |
| gmann | one I remember is live migration tempest test failure which is fixed now. | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:04 |
| gmann | thanks jungleboyj for updates | 15:04 |
| jungleboyj | gmann: Welcome. | 15:04 |
| gmann | anything else on Gate status side? | 15:04 |
| gmann | #topic Migration from 'Freenode' to 'OFTC' (gmann) | 15:05 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 15:05 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc-migration-to-oftc | 15:05 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from me. | 15:05 |
| gmann | i do not have any progress in this week. I will do next week for remaining project side doc update | 15:06 |
| gmann | #topic Governance non-active repos retirement & cleanup | 15:06 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/governance-repos-cleanup | 15:06 |
| gmann | all the patches are merged now in this and cleanup is completed | 15:06 |
| gmann | I will remove this from next meeting agenda | 15:06 |
| jungleboyj | \o/ | 15:07 |
| gmann | #action gmann to remove Governance non-active repos cleanup topic from agenda | 15:07 |
| gmann | if we find any other repo which needs to be merged/cleanup then we can do that later | 15:08 |
| gmann | #topic Election official assignments | 15:08 |
| gmann | we have three proposed election official now | 15:08 |
| gmann | 1. Belmiro: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/798822 | 15:08 |
| gmann | 2. Amy: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/798907 | 15:08 |
| gmann | 3. Helena: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/798729 | 15:08 |
| fungi | huge thanks to the three of you for stepping up! | 15:08 |
| gmann | yeah, thanks belmoreira spotz helena | 15:08 |
| gmann | to merge these patches we need to merge this gate fix #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/798916 | 15:09 |
| spotz | My pleasure:) | 15:09 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: ^^ can you check 798916 ? | 15:10 |
| gmann | who is 2nd reviewer in elections repo? I think Ian ? | 15:11 |
| gmann | we have spotz belmoreira also added | 15:12 |
| gmann | can you check this #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/798916 | 15:12 |
| gmann | or fungi ^^ | 15:12 |
| gmann | https://review.opendev.org/admin/groups/208108b62745877449d8e6fce45f44e3cc013e8b,members | 15:12 |
| belmoreira | sure | 15:13 |
| gmann | thanks | 15:13 |
| spotz | reviewed | 15:13 |
| gmann | once this merge then we can recheck on other patches | 15:13 |
| spotz | wasn't suree if I should +w yet though | 15:13 |
| gmann | and on next election dates #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/798719 | 15:13 |
| gmann | yeah me too, may be diablo_rojo added you | 15:13 |
| gmann | I thought it will be after election official patch merge, but anyways. | 15:14 |
| spotz | She did, but I tend to like 2 +2 if the repo is active | 15:14 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:14 |
| gmann | I commented on dates for next electrion to macth with our charter | 15:14 |
| gmann | and we need to wait until we have Y release name which might be next week as I received information from foundation on trademark check | 15:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Double meetings, sorry. | 15:16 |
| jungleboyj | gmann: Any news on the naming? | 15:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah I will take a look at the gate fix. | 15:16 |
| spotz | I so want to call RC1 Baby Yoda:( | 15:16 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: yeah, next week we will get the trademanrk check by foundation | 15:16 |
| jungleboyj | gmann: Ok. people have been asking. | 15:17 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: fungi belmoreira spotz just a question do we keep only current election official in core goups or is it fine to have previous ofificial also ? | 15:17 |
| jungleboyj | spotz: I think that is unlikely. :-( | 15:17 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: yeah, I am hoping by next week we should be ready | 15:17 |
| diablo_rojo | gmann, I have periodically culled the group | 15:17 |
| diablo_rojo | I am not aggressive about removing people though | 15:18 |
| spotz | jungleboyj: hence the :( I'd be really surprised if we get to use Yoda. I think it'll be Yeti | 15:18 |
| spotz | Yezh like Andy was still in there but I had only heard Ian mentioned | 15:18 |
| fungi | yeah, i have no need to be in the election officials team in gerrit, as i'm no longer an official | 15:18 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, I can remove you right now. | 15:18 |
| fungi | especially if we have several people in it now who can approve any tooling fixes i end up proposing | 15:18 |
| gmann | ack, may be we can do once we merge the new election offiicals patches | 15:19 |
| fungi | thanks diablo_rojo! | 15:19 |
| diablo_rojo | 'free' you from the bonds of election officiating | 15:19 |
| gmann | thanks | 15:19 |
| gmann | I will remove this topic from agenda for next meeting. | 15:19 |
| gmann | anything else on this topic? | 15:19 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi is freeeeeeeeeeee | 15:20 |
| gmann | #action gmann to remove election assignments topic form agenda | 15:20 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: hehe he never :) free form elections things may be | 15:20 |
| diablo_rojo | Current list- spotz andymccr, belmoreira, hspease, ianychoi and myself | 15:20 |
| jungleboyj | #freeFungi | 15:20 |
| gmann | one more things about election | 15:20 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, LOLOLOLOL | 15:20 |
| gmann | L65 in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-xena-tracker | 15:21 |
| spotz | But then I'll be lonely! | 15:21 |
| gmann | spotz: belmoreira this is extra step for this election "One extra step here: CIVS changed its policy on email communication in April 2021. To vote in private CIVS polls, Authorized voters must opt in to email communication from the service via https://civs1.civs.us/cgi-bin/opt_in.pl. We need to add this as a pre-step for the election once electorate are finalized. " | 15:21 |
| gmann | that is what I did for TC votes on Y release name | 15:21 |
| spotz | Yeah I rermember that from the naming election | 15:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh nooooo | 15:21 |
| fungi | it took effect *immediately* (like a day or two) after we created the last tc/ptl polls | 15:22 |
| diablo_rojo | that is lucky. | 15:22 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:22 |
| fungi | i think it was right after the special tc election actually | 15:22 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that sounds right | 15:23 |
| diablo_rojo | I don't recall doing extra stuff for that special election | 15:23 |
| fungi | because i remember running into it when trying to resend a ballot to one voter while the poll was open | 15:23 |
| spotz | So can we send a pre-voting opt-in like a week before? | 15:23 |
| fungi | but regardless, it means we need to talk about our options yeah | 15:23 |
| gmann | spotz: may be | 15:23 |
| gmann | k, may be you all can disucss it in election channel on how to do that but this is somehting we should figure out before we send the poll link | 15:23 |
| gmann | fungi: +1 | 15:24 |
| belmoreira | thanks gmann for the heads up | 15:24 |
| fungi | like announcing in various places that people who want to vote need to allow civs to e-mail them first | 15:24 |
| fungi | or running our own copy of civs somewhere instead | 15:24 |
| spotz | I heard civs wasn't supported anymore? | 15:25 |
| gmann | yeah, let's discussed on detail after meeting or on election channel ? | 15:25 |
| gmann | next topic is | 15:25 |
| gmann | #topic let's move to next topic | 15:25 |
| gmann | ohh | 15:25 |
| ricolin | haha:) | 15:25 |
| gmann | #topic Items for next Newsletter | 15:26 |
| gmann | we have next month newsletter and need to put 2-3 items for news | 15:26 |
| gmann | ricolin: Y release goal is added i previous newsletter right? | 15:26 |
| ricolin | gmann, I don't think we do | 15:27 |
| gmann | its there | 15:27 |
| gmann | #link https://superuser.openstack.org/articles/inside-open-infrastructure-the-latest-from-the-openinfra-foundation-4/ | 15:27 |
| ricolin | okay | 15:27 |
| gmann | what all items we can add ? | 15:27 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add election_results to cycle data https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/798916 | 15:28 |
| diablo_rojo | We can add the discussion of y goals to the newsletter again | 15:28 |
| diablo_rojo | even if it was there before | 15:28 |
| ricolin | EOL ocata? | 15:28 |
| spotz | Yeah cause the more ideas the better. I like the pain points one alot | 15:29 |
| gmann | sure, that will help +1 | 15:29 |
| gmann | ocata EOl is good info, | 15:29 |
| jungleboyj | Would say add news about the naming but sounds like we won't have that in time? | 15:29 |
| spotz | I just EOLed Stein in some docs yesterday. | 15:29 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: yeah | 15:29 |
| gmann | one item I think is adding pre-step for CIVS poll? we should wait until election officials finalize the mechanish of that. | 15:29 |
| spotz | Oh good call gmann! | 15:29 |
| gmann | so that people can start it early | 15:30 |
| spotz | I would say give folks a heads up on the opt-in now and as many times as we can | 15:30 |
| gmann | yeah | 15:30 |
| spotz | Just a please be aware you willreceive an email in the coming weeks to opt-in | 15:30 |
| gmann | spotz: can you add some word and link in etherpad about it ? | 15:30 |
| gmann | and we can also ask 'you can do it in advance also' | 15:31 |
| gmann | ok so, 1. ocata EOl ricolin can you add | 15:31 |
| ricolin | yes | 15:31 |
| gmann | I will add Y goal again | 15:31 |
| spotz | yep | 15:31 |
| gmann | great thanks | 15:32 |
| gmann | #topic Open Reviews | 15:32 |
| spotz | the tracker ether? | 15:32 |
| gmann | this one https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/newsletter-openstack-news | 15:32 |
| spotz | thanks | 15:33 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:33 |
| gmann | these are open reviews | 15:33 |
| gmann | I think all review has erquired vote but please review those if you have not | 15:34 |
| gmann | ricolin: thanks for headup for js-openstack-lib retirement | 15:34 |
| gmann | there are some comment on governance and project-config patches to address first | 15:35 |
| ricolin | gmann, NP, we still need ML from PTL | 15:35 |
| gmann | ricolin: +1, thanks. | 15:35 |
| ricolin | but everything is there | 15:35 |
| gmann | that's all I have for today, anything else we need to discuss ? | 15:36 |
| ricolin | yes | 15:36 |
| ricolin | Julia have an idea about to allow projects to have a community goal like aiming their/ops most painful issues | 15:37 |
| ricolin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-June/023352.html | 15:38 |
| ricolin | would like to hear from all of you | 15:38 |
| jungleboyj | Seems like a decent idea. | 15:38 |
| gmann | Xena cycle also we had kind of similar? about stability of existing things. | 15:38 |
| yoctozepto | I am also in favour | 15:39 |
| spotz | I like the pain pooints goal as already mentioned. I added the Inclusive Naming stuff so we can at least officially be planning on what next | 15:39 |
| gmann | we have I think two more candidate for Y, tls and RBAC | 15:39 |
| ricolin | As pre-selecting step, we might be able to make actions like- ask projects to provide information on what's ops's most painful part | 15:39 |
| ricolin | gmann, yes | 15:40 |
| gmann | RBAC is also very imoportant for operator point of view | 15:40 |
| gmann | ricolin: +1 | 15:40 |
| gmann | and we can collect the pain points in goal proposal first | 15:40 |
| ricolin | gmann, but we said we gonna have 2 Y goals | 15:40 |
| ricolin | but right now we're working on is to pre-selecting | 15:40 |
| gmann | ricolin: it depends on what all goals and how much work needed | 15:40 |
| spotz | I'd second RBAC, we also need to help folks understand why it's important as I bet most folks don't even know about policy.yaml/jsoon | 15:40 |
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| ricolin | gmann, that's the part I'm wondering | 15:41 |
| gmann | so we get the goals proposed in proposed dir and then we can weight on each goal while selecting | 15:41 |
| jungleboyj | Makes sense. | 15:42 |
| ricolin | +1 | 15:42 |
| gmann | so let's start proposing/asking to propose as first step | 15:42 |
| gmann | I will do for RBAC before next meeting | 15:42 |
| fungi | progress on rbac would be nice from the vmt's perspective. we keep getting vulnerability reports opened from people who have created "project admin" roles and don't realize that users in it are full admins of a lot of services | 15:42 |
| ricolin | So maybe we make actions like "collect the pain points"? | 15:42 |
| gmann | fungi: yeah, good point. | 15:42 |
| gmann | ricolin: +1, to projects right? | 15:43 |
| fungi | right now the existing rbac half-implementation is an attractive nuisance | 15:43 |
| ricolin | gmann, yes | 15:43 |
| belmoreira | I like the idea about ops pain points, just wondering if devs have the same perception of pain points as ops. Who will provide the pain points? | 15:43 |
| gmann | yes and system admin has its own chanlange on project mapped resources | 15:43 |
| jungleboyj | belmoreira: Probably not, but that is why it would be good to get that feedback. | 15:43 |
| gmann | and especially for cross servier dependent resources, like system admin cannot create VM from nova but can create network from neutron | 15:44 |
| gmann | maye be we can ask to add pain points in our goal backlog? there we have other pain points also which we plan to make goal | 15:45 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/community-goals | 15:46 |
| dansmith | definitely ++ from me for rbac | 15:46 |
| * dansmith catches up | 15:46 | |
| ricolin | belmoreira, do raise a good question: where we can ask for feedback first? | 15:46 |
| spotz | belmoreira: That might be a good initiative for thhe ops meetuo folks or atleast the channel, a livestream, the user serrver? | 15:46 |
| spotz | Sorry if I type fast I don't fix the typos:) | 15:46 |
| ricolin | we can ask project teams, and where else? | 15:46 |
| spotz | user vervey.. | 15:46 |
| spotz | grr | 15:46 |
| ricolin | gmann, +1 | 15:47 |
| fungi | user oy vey | 15:47 |
| jungleboyj | spotz: is typing like she just left the dentist. | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | I like verveys | 15:48 |
| belmoreira | spotz yes, I think user survey is good | 15:48 |
| jungleboyj | belmoreira: ++ | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | The verveys feedback has never proven really useful, at least for ironic. Most comments have tended to not be constructive, and the overall process means that that the actual feedback is only after translation and review from the foundation which means we're talking next year if we want to use that as imput | 15:48 |
| spotz | I need a new keyboard, thhe Mac keybooards go weird on me after a yearr. This time quicker | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | verveys++ | 15:48 |
| gmann | ok let's collect those pain points from all those channels/projects and add it in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/community-goals | 15:49 |
| fungi | yes, the survey is great for making demographic profiles and statistics, less for identifying what bugs to fix | 15:49 |
| gmann | ricolin: can you ask it on ML from projects/ops side ? | 15:49 |
| ricolin | yes | 15:49 |
| jungleboyj | If nothing else, having a list of perceived pain points is useful. | 15:49 |
| gmann | great thanks | 15:49 |
| fungi | the ops sig should ideally be a great source of pain points | 15:50 |
| gmann | #action ricolin to ask for collecting the ops pain points on openstack-discuss ML | 15:50 |
| gmann | yeah, who is chair there? | 15:50 |
| gmann | ah | 15:50 |
| gmann | let's see if we have anyone coming up with help and then we can form | 15:51 |
| belmoreira | fungi the problem is that the participation is not that much | 15:51 |
| gmann | #action gmann to propose the RBAC goal | 15:51 |
| fungi | belmoreira: yep, a separate problem also worth solving i suppose | 15:52 |
| gmann | anything on this topic or any other topic to discuss today? | 15:52 |
| TheJulia | I wonder if openinfra.live would be willing to do an general operator roundtable, or maybe join the operators for an hour? | 15:53 |
| spotz | That's what I was thinking above, the AMA | 15:53 |
| belmoreira | and I'm sure mine pain points will be different from most operators | 15:53 |
| gmann | +1 | 15:53 |
| fungi | TheJulia: add it to https://ideas.openinfra.live/ ! | 15:53 |
| jungleboyj | ++ | 15:54 |
| gmann | #link https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfralive | 15:54 |
| belmoreira | TheJulia ++ | 15:54 |
| TheJulia | fungi: that url is not accepting connections at this time | 15:55 |
| ricolin | belmoreira, what potentially can do is collect pain points and allow project teams to select from | 15:55 |
| gmann | TheJulia: #link https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfralive | 15:55 |
| fungi | TheJulia: i just noticed, bringing it to the attention of the folks who run it | 15:56 |
| spotz | We break all the things! | 15:57 |
| gmann | :) | 15:57 |
| gmann | thanks for all great discusison today and let's work on respective action items for various topic. | 15:58 |
| gmann | if nothing else let's close the meeting | 15:58 |
| fungi | TheJulia: it's http sorry, https is apparently not implemented there | 15:58 |
| gmann | thanks all for joining | 15:58 |
| spotz | Thanks gmann! | 15:58 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jul 1 15:58:29 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-01-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-01-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-07-01-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
| TheJulia | belmoreira: would you be willing to join a round table? | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | thanks gmann | 15:59 |
| TheJulia | any other operators watching willing to join a round table? | 15:59 |
| belmoreira | sure, that would be great | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: also, I will be on PTO the next two weeks, just so you know :-) | 15:59 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks. | 15:59 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: ack. thanks for update and enjoy the PTO. | 16:00 |
| spotz | If you want an ex-operator to help lead I can join Julia. We can use the ops meetup twitter to get the word out once scheduled | 16:00 |
| spotz | Have fun yoctozepto | 16:00 |
| yoctozepto | thanks gmann and spotz | 16:01 |
| belmoreira | the Large Scale SIG can also be a good channel to make ops aware | 16:02 |
| TheJulia | spotz: ack, /msg me your preferred email address | 16:02 |
| fungi | belmoreira: great idea, yep. sigs in general make good conduits since they're at least assumed to involve users/operators in many cases | 16:03 |
| belmoreira | I can do mention it in the Large Scale and Scientific SIG | 16:05 |
| gmann | I think we need to make SIG more conencting to developers for such ops pain point/feedback from ops and community or vice versa | 16:06 |
| gmann | so that it will continously help us on any improvement in software | 16:07 |
| TheJulia | belmoreira: I'm going to submit it was is with a couple names, and note we're going to try and find some more people | 16:09 |
| TheJulia | Some folks do need to get permission before speaking in the public view on their environment or issues encountered. | 16:10 |
| spotz | ok opt-in blurb ccreated if anyone wants to chheck it out on the etherpad. I think it's typo free:) | 16:50 |
| gmann | spotz: thanks lgtm, how about adding link also there in case people can do this step in advance. | 17:42 |
| spotz | Let me look, I was on the site to get the wording | 17:43 |
| gmann | https://civs1.civs.us/cgi-bin/opt_in.pl | 17:44 |
| spotz | Oh cool I didn't see that | 17:44 |
| gmann | thanks | 17:49 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: we are ready on newsletter content, in case you would like to inform foundation staff early than Monday https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/newsletter-openstack-news | 17:51 |
| diablo_rojo | gmann, oh cool. | 18:01 |
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| clarkb | gmann: Now that the ELK stuff has been brought up with the board I was thinking it would be a good time to think about checkpoints on that from the infra side. Is that something that I should add to next week's TC agenda? | 20:22 |
| clarkb | so far we've said that we aren't in a rush to turn it off (which is still the case) but yesterday we discovered the elasticsearch cluster had largely crashed and we weren't indexing anything. | 20:23 |
| clarkb | I don't think that means we're in a rush yet, but thinking about reasonable timelines to expect help and what to do if we don't etc is probably a good idea | 20:23 |
| clarkb | related to that I've disabled the indexer processes on 50% of our worker nodes to see if we can narrow down how many of them we need for our current workloads (since one of the concerns is resource consumption) | 20:24 |
| clarkb | so far the metrics we are gathering indicate turning off 50% might be too much but we need to get more data before we decide that | 20:25 |
| clarkb | (and they can be turned back on if necessary since I haven't deleted anything, just stopped processes) | 20:25 |
| gmann | yeah, I added that topic in morning - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting | 20:25 |
| clarkb | that was for today to give an update on what you talked to the board about right? | 20:26 |
| gmann | clarkb: we did not discussed it today as I was waiting from Board if any updates they have from their organizayion check. | 20:26 |
| gmann | next meeting is best time for that and we can discuss all the pointed you mentione also | 20:27 |
| clarkb | got it. Do you mind if I add an item or two under that topic for next week? | 20:27 |
| gmann | pointy | 20:27 |
| gmann | clarkb: yes that will be great. | 20:27 |
| clarkb | cool I'll do that | 20:27 |
| gmann | thanks | 20:27 |
| gmann | clarkb: having timeline is something we need at some point as Board asked about any deadline for shutdown. may be we can define something like next Y release or so if that is fine from infra/opendev team side | 20:29 |
| gmann | otherwise without deadline, many people can interpret it as same as we are asking infra help since 3 years | 20:30 |
| clarkb | gmann: I mean we are asking for help because they dno't help :P | 20:30 |
| clarkb | but I agree a timeline would be a good thing | 20:30 |
| gmann | yeah, let's discuss all those points in next meeting | 20:32 |
| clarkb | gmann: ok I posted some updates, feel free to edit or add to that | 20:33 |
| gmann | clarkb: looks good, updated the topic name to 'ELK services plan and help status' | 20:34 |
| gmann | clarkb: and i hope you will attend the meeting to decide timeline or so or fungi ? | 20:35 |
| gmann | as current maintainer input is needed | 20:35 |
| clarkb | yes, I'll plan to be there next week (Thursday at 15:00 UTC right?) | 20:36 |
| gmann | yeah | 20:36 |
| gmann | I will ping also in case. | 20:36 |
| clarkb | that would be great, thanks | 20:37 |
| gmann | thanks. | 20:37 |
| fungi | i'm also basically always around for the tc meeting | 20:38 |
| gmann | +1 | 20:39 |
| fungi | when i resolved not to run for a seat on the tc again, i made it a point to still stick around and participate as if i were still on the tc, at least as much as my available time allows | 20:47 |
| fungi | all of the opinions with none of the added responsibility ;) | 20:48 |
| gmann | ' | 23:39 |
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