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| frickler | gmann: from what I heard, someone on freenode accidentally klined irccloud for a short period, but that shouldn't affect anything on OTFC, or did it? | 12:07 |
| gmann | frickler: ok. no, it did not affect OFTC AFAIK | 12:08 |
| gmann | I thought they got to know that we are going to change topic today :) | 12:09 |
| gmann | channel topics | 12:09 |
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| gmann | tc-members: time to start the Y release naming poll https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/Y_Proposals | 12:45 |
| gmann | There is a change in CIVS policy from April 2021. "To vote in private CIVS polls, you must opt in to email communication from the service." | 12:45 |
| gmann | tc-member: I am sent you email to activate your email via a link and then I will be able to add you as an authorized voter. please check and confirm once activated | 12:46 |
| gmann | email with sib "Pre Step for Y release naming poll" | 12:46 |
| gmann | sub | 12:47 |
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| yoctozepto | activated | 12:59 |
| gmann | spotz: yoctozepto thanks. you should get the poll link now | 13:01 |
| spotz | gmann: got it | 13:01 |
| gmann | perfect | 13:01 |
| yoctozepto | too | 13:02 |
| yoctozepto | voted | 13:09 |
| yoctozepto | tough choice | 13:09 |
| gmann | +1 :) | 13:10 |
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| dansmith | gmann: soy activado | 13:31 |
| gmann | :) sent the poll link | 13:34 |
| dansmith | gmann: my ballot and email address will be visible after the poll? that seems.. odd | 13:44 |
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| gmann | dansmith: yes, that is as per the release poll process . 2nd point https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html#release-naming-process | 13:48 |
| gmann | that is from when we changed the process from community poll to TC-only poll | 13:49 |
| dansmith | ack, I guess that happened right before I came to the TC and didn't realize that had changed because I kept getting ballots :P | 13:52 |
| * dansmith *carefully* considers his choices before submitting | 13:53 | |
| gmann | yeah since W cycle release name | 13:54 |
| dansmith | yeah I see, just didn't realize due to the timing | 13:55 |
| fungi | yeah, the civs behavior change came right at the tail end of our most recent technical election, we'll likely need to consider setting up a civs instance of our own, maybe sending from the gerrit server's ip address (since the addresses we're sending ballots to in technical elections have technically opted into communications from that server, it's easy to argue we shouldn't bother | 13:56 |
| fungi | collecting additional opt-in for ballots if sent from the same server) | 13:56 |
| gmann | dansmith: and in X, we forgot to select that option that is why it is first time for you | 13:56 |
| dansmith | ahh | 13:56 |
| dansmith | gmann: that makes me feel better :) | 13:56 |
| dansmith | hopefully the pro-Yoda party won't have me knifed in the alley | 13:57 |
| fungi | the alternative is going to be to expect all electors to do the activation link in a separate pass before we send ballots | 13:57 |
| gmann | yeah and I think that should be one time things. | 13:58 |
| gmann | until it is deactivated manually | 13:58 |
| gmann | fungi: but the challenge in that is you have to keep adding voters if anyone activates later. or we ask everyone to activate much ahead of election with some deadline | 14:01 |
| fungi | gmann: right, it would have to be after the electorate freeze | 14:07 |
| gmann | I am afraid that will end up decreasing the authorized voters and so does actual votes | 14:08 |
| ttx | great names! | 14:09 |
| fungi | yeah, which is why probably running our own copy of civs would make more sense. we've discussed it in the past, it's just a pile of perl but i haven't looked too closely at it before | 14:09 |
| ttx | "pile" describes it accurately | 14:09 |
| ttx | I ran an instance a while ago to replicate some findings | 14:10 |
| ttx | my recollection is not that great :) | 14:10 |
| fungi | heh, noted ;) | 14:11 |
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| gmann | yeah, noted as one of the extra things/steps for the next election in Oct or so. | 14:14 |
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| fungi | one of the things we should be looking into as soon as possible so it doesn't become a scramble in october | 14:26 |
| gmann | yeah | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | fungi, around? | 14:41 |
| fungi | abhishekk: always | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | fungi, will you be able to add me to this group, https://launchpad.net/~glance-release/+members#active | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | Brian is on leave and others are not active any more | 14:42 |
| fungi | just a moment and i'll see if i have the necessary access or can temporarily elevate myself | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | ack, thank you | 14:42 |
| fungi | abhishekk: yep, since that group is owned by ~openstack-admins i was able to add you. i also made you an administrator of that group so you can manage it yourself now | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | great, thank you very much | 14:45 |
| fungi | any time! | 14:45 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Propose vulnerability:managed tag for os-brick https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/794680 | 15:40 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Add resolution for ATC renamed to AC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/794366 | 15:45 |
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| fungi | gmann: i proposed a couple of alternative topic phrasings on https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-irc-migration-to-oftc (one for if we want to avoid mentioning trigger keywords, and a different shorter one) | 16:23 |
| gmann | fungi: thanks L30 lgtm. | 16:27 |
| dansmith | agree | 16:27 |
| fungi | so my second suggestion, "OpenStack community discussions are now on OFTC, see you there: https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/irc.html" | 16:29 |
| fungi | i'll get the script put together for that | 16:29 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Modify the meeting channel preference https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/794839 | 16:30 |
| gmann | fungi: +1 | 16:30 |
| gmann | fungi: I wrote the channel names other than project.yaml under L32. hope you have seen those. | 16:31 |
| gmann | I hope I covered all. | 16:31 |
| fungi | yeah, that's what i'm using (plus the projects.yaml) | 16:31 |
| gmann | ok | 16:31 |
| fungi | thanks! | 16:31 |
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| fungi | gmann: shall i include #openstack-tc? assuming so but it wasn't in the list | 16:53 |
| gmann | fungi: ah :) yes please | 16:54 |
| fungi | cool, that brings the total to 64 channels i'm updating topics on | 16:54 |
| fungi | to test the waters, i updated the topics for #openstack-tc, #openstack-infra, #openstack-security and #openstack-election, all four of which i'm still lurking in | 16:58 |
| fungi | i'll keep a close eye on those for a bit, then start doing the remaining 60 in small batches to as to hopefully not draw attention | 16:59 |
| gmann | +1 | 17:00 |
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| gmann | tc-members: I have started this etherpad to discuss the retirement of governances' non-active repos, please add your opinion there. https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/governance-repos-cleanup | 23:13 |
| gmann | ttx: maybe you know if openstack/project-navigator-data is still in use L14 in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/governance-repos-cleanup | 23:21 |
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