Wednesday, 2021-04-07

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/election master: Omit leaderless list from TC election results  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/77985600:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/election master: Only associate preferred addresses with owners  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/78460000:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/election master: Adding Feilong Wang for TC Candidacy  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/78486500:32
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openstackgerritHervĂ© Beraud proposed openstack/governance master: Making devstack-plugin-(amqp1|kafka) branchless  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/78454414:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Making devstack-plugin-(amqp1|kafka) branchless  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/78454415:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Switch Keystone to DPL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/78410215:04
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noonedeadpunkHey! I wasn't really following here (probably had to), but is there any places where community goals are stated or you can suggest one?16:20
noonedeadpunkI guess there is, the question is where it is:) I believe it's smth that has been discussed _a lot_ but enough efforts have been never made16:21
funginoonedeadpunk: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/ outlines the process16:25
noonedeadpunkoh, indeed, I guess evrardjp has created the repo with goals back then :)16:28
gmannnoonedeadpunk: you can propose the goals in this dir https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/src/branch/master/goals/proposed16:33
gmannnoonedeadpunk: this is example https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/75988116:33
noonedeadpunkgmann: fungi thanks, will follow template from policy-json-to-yaml16:34
noonedeadpunkyeah, already found it :)16:34
gmannand later we select the per cycle goal from proposed one16:34
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noonedeadpunkdoh, I was thinking about implementing reader role across all projects, but once started to looking deeper, it seems this has been implemented in W without a goal :)17:22
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fungisometimes goals are just window dressing17:25
fungithings *can* get done without one ;)17:25
noonedeadpunkYeah, it was bliueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/secure-rbac-roles :)17:25
noonedeadpunkwell, good to know)17:26
fungiactually i think there was a goal17:26
noonedeadpunkCan't grep in repo neither via topic nor via blueprint...17:26
fungiyeah i'm not finding it either. i must have imagined it17:27
noonedeadpunkbut whatever - great that it's implemented and I won't be ashamed by writing bad goal :)17:27
fungii know the reader role was basically phase 1 of the rbac effort, maybe we only talked about making it a multi-phase goal17:28
gmannnoonedeadpunk: that work is done as part of policy popup team.17:30
gmannnoonedeadpunk: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Consistent_and_Secure_Default_Policies_Popup_Team17:30
gmannand we are going to discuss a lot on this topic in coming PTG also https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/policy-popup-xena-ptg17:31
gmannin Wallaby cycle, many projects has implemented it but not all17:31
fungioh, right, we talked about making it a goal and then determined a pop-up team would suit better17:31
gmannyeah17:31
gmannbased on progress and discussion in PTG we will see on possibility of making this as goal for Y cycle or so17:32
fungione of the outcomes of the pop-up team could have been poc in some services with a goal to have the other services complete the same work17:32
gmanndepends on how much work is pending17:32
noonedeadpunkWell, looking at codesearch, looks like a really decent progress has been made17:32
gmannyes17:33
noonedeadpunkit's not everywhere reflected in docs or policy samples, but still it feels it should jsut work17:33
gmannpolicy doc should have that, at least for nova it is there when I implemented in Ussuri cycle17:34
noonedeadpunkok, cool, thanks for the info!17:34
* noonedeadpunk drops draft17:34
gmannlike this https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/policy.html17:35
gmannyou can search with 'Scope Types' field17:35
gmannand in sample policy file too https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/sample-policy.html17:36
gmann'Intended scope(s)'17:36
noonedeadpunkI think I more meant cinder17:36
funginoonedeadpunk: instead of writing a goal, now you can just help complete the implementation instead ;)17:36
gmannnoonedeadpunk: cinder is not yet finished. there are patch up but not merged in WALLABY17:37
noonedeadpunkoh, hm, I just found that https://opendev.org/openstack/cinder/src/branch/master/cinder/policies/base.py#L40 so suggested it should reflect behaviour17:38
gmannthere were two blocker for cinder, 1. project-id in endpoint 2. testing strategy17:38
noonedeadpunkfair17:39
gmannthat is only common persona definition in base class but policy still not moved to scope_type or reader rols17:39
gmannnoonedeadpunk: we are going to discuss such blocker/progress in PTG in various sessions. if you have something you want to discuss from usage point of view in openstack-ansible or so then feel free to add topic in this etherpad  https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/policy-popup-xena-ptg17:41
gmannhow to use the scope_type is pretty hot topic for this PTG and something we all are looking forward to solve/consolidate17:42
noonedeadpunkI think I'm more interested from jsut regular operator prespective. Not sure that have more input then you already have though17:43
gmannbasically topic of this etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/consuming-system-scope17:43
noonedeadpunkI will try to join anyway:)17:43
gmannperfect, that will help17:43
fungias an interested user you can at least give your perspective on relative importance of the feature or user-facing implementation details17:44
gmannusage perspective we will cover in nova+keystone session on Thursday 5-16UTC in keystone room - https://ethercalc.net/oz7q0gds9zfi17:44
gmann15-16 UTC17:44
* noonedeadpunk started filling in PTG calendar17:45
gmannnoonedeadpunk: operator feedback is something we are looking forward to have. we do not have much feedback yet as not many project implemented it till Wallaby17:46
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noonedeadpunkgotcha17:49
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spotzWe probably need to work on starting to recruit for ops meetup team. There's just Chris Morgan and I left20:35
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