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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Drop neutron-vpnaas from legacy projects https://review.opendev.org/745401 | 01:17 |
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| gmann | mnaser: legacy validation is green now - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/737559/5 | 01:36 |
| gmann | smcginnis: can you remove python-dracclient from legacy.yaml too in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745564/1 | 01:40 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 08:55 |
| ttx | mnaser: will do | 09:08 |
| evrardjp | that will simplify things | 09:10 |
| evrardjp | but in that case, what's the purpose of the meta-sig ? | 09:10 |
| evrardjp | I mean if we are regrouping things, and TC has the proper ACLs, I wonder if meta-sig still has a purpose | 09:14 |
| evrardjp | except if I missed something during my holidays? | 09:14 |
| ttx | evrardjp: the meta SIG can probably be dissolved into the TC too | 09:24 |
| ttx | It was a construct to have SIGs co-owned by TC and UC | 09:24 |
| ttx | and also seek advancement of SIGs in general | 09:24 |
| ttx | There is probably some text in there that also need updating | 09:25 |
| ttx | I'll do a pass at checking that | 09:26 |
| evrardjp | exactly | 09:28 |
| evrardjp | I was okay to do it, but I was wondering if that is already ready for primetime | 09:29 |
| evrardjp | but feel free to go ahead, I will vote :) | 09:29 |
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| ttx | tc-members: re: CloudKitty we have a group of volunteers to take it over, as it looks abandoned. I would strike the iron while it's hot and hand priteau the keys, allowing him to add the other volunteers as needed | 10:11 |
| ttx | Do we need a resolution for that? | 10:11 |
| evrardjp | I don't think we need a _resolution_ , do you? | 10:25 |
| evrardjp | I think as long as we have votes and a message on the ML, it would be good enough | 10:26 |
| evrardjp | but let's hear other people opinions :) | 10:26 |
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| mnaser | ttx: I say this can simply be an appointed ptl | 10:54 |
| mnaser | ttx: and cloud kittty gets the appointed ptl for this cycle filled in | 10:54 |
| mnaser | The fact they were appointed a while into the dev cycle is probably not _that_ relevant | 10:55 |
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| ttx | mnaser: ok, so just force a PTL replacement due to abandoned post.. that works | 10:57 |
| ttx | I can propose priteau if y'all generally think it's a good idea | 10:57 |
| mnaser | ttx: I think it’s probably the best idea right now — so i would vote for it | 10:58 |
| ttx | CloudKitty's PTL was actually already appointed, so this is pretty lightweight | 11:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Pierre Riteau as CloudKitty PTL for Victoria https://review.opendev.org/745653 | 11:05 |
| ttx | If this merges quick we can ask infra to add Pierre to https://review.opendev.org/#/admin/groups/348,members | 11:06 |
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| mnaser | ttx: from a release team perspective, is there a timeline this needs to ideally land before | 11:38 |
| mnaser | if so, we can get reviews and fast track this to help with some of the housekeeping things pierre needs to take care of | 11:39 |
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| ttx | not really... but I would try to enable those volunteers asap | 11:53 |
| evrardjp | in these kind of patches, it kinda makes sense to wait for the community to voice | 11:53 |
| evrardjp | but at the same time, we should allow volunteers to step up as of today | 11:53 |
| evrardjp | do we have a strict dependency of the patch then only the team members? | 11:54 |
| evrardjp | or can we just go ahead right now and ask to add Pierre on that group? | 11:55 |
| ttx | "the TC" can ask infra to force the add, and the will of the TC has to materialize one way or another. that review is one way to express it | 11:55 |
| ttx | I guess so would be a quick poll on IRC that gets logged | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/governance master: Add python-dracclient to be owned by Hardware Vendor SIG https://review.opendev.org/745564 | 12:22 |
| smcginnis | From a release perspective, I would like to see someone handling CloudKitty as soon as possible. | 12:24 |
| smcginnis | Nothing has merged for those repos basically all cycle, so we don't really know if everything is OK with py38 and maybe other things we would want to know for sure before including Cloudkitty as part of the Victoria cycle. | 12:25 |
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| smcginnis | So the sooner that team can get in and start merging some of the backlog and getting more activity there, the sooner we are going to be comfortable that we aren't going to have to do something drastic like dropping their deliverables from the cycle. | 12:25 |
| smcginnis | Which could be very disruptive downstream. | 12:26 |
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| mnaser | evrardjp: we've had an ML thread open since July 30th | 12:29 |
| mnaser | i think that's probably enough heads up for those who wanted to mention it to speak up | 12:29 |
| gmann | +1 on CloudKitty er-grouping. As current PTL pr team are not reachable, this is right thing to do. | 12:43 |
| ttx | also extremely easy to undo if needed | 12:53 |
| gmann | yeah | 12:54 |
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| ttx | Allow TC to review governance-sigs changes https://review.opendev.org/745679 | 14:05 |
| ttx | We'll likely want to deprecate https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180319-sig-governance.html | 14:06 |
| gmann | thanks | 14:07 |
| gmann | yeah, we should update that too | 14:08 |
| gmann | we should deprecate this too by referring it to new uc charter under governance repo -https://opendev.org/openstack/governance-uc | 14:10 |
| ttx | reminder to vote on https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:tc-uc-merge | 14:11 |
| ttx | once that merges I'll push a new set | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | evrardjp, njohnston: nice proposals on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/744995 | 14:12 |
| gmann | ttx: thanks | 14:12 |
| njohnston | EmilienM: Thanks! | 14:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance-website master: Merge UC and TC https://review.opendev.org/744488 | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance-website master: Mention project teams at governance level https://review.opendev.org/744489 | 14:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/governance master: Resolution to define distributed leadership for projects https://review.opendev.org/744995 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/governance master: Resolution to define distributed leadership for projects https://review.opendev.org/744995 | 15:36 |
| evrardjp | mnaser: yes I know the thread. I don't know, I felt extra careful. | 15:43 |
| evrardjp | I guess it's good enough | 15:43 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: agreed on the urgency, which is why I wanted to rush the inclusion of new cores/leaders in the group | 15:44 |
| evrardjp | EmilienM: thanks :) it was long due. | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: The Meta SIG is no longer needed https://review.opendev.org/745707 | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/governance master: Resolution to define distributed leadership for projects https://review.opendev.org/744995 | 20:10 |
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