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| AJaeger | Hi TC, a heads-up: Neither cloudkitty nor kabaor has merged anything since end of April - those might be candidates to do a "liveness" check. | 07:11 |
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| AJaeger | See https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/cloudkitty and https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/karbor | 07:11 |
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| belmoreira | o/ | 09:27 |
| ttx | o/ | 09:29 |
| ttx | AJaeger: thanks! | 09:29 |
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| ttx | Reminder to fill the PTG feedback etherpad with your review of the virtual PTG experience https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/June2020-PTG-Feedback | 09:40 |
| ttx | tc-members: also ICYMI an interesting thread on installation guide on the -discuss list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015270.html | 09:48 |
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| cloudnull | o/ | 12:15 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 12:28 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 12:56 |
| gmann | o/ | 13:12 |
| tosky | question about the zuulv3 goal: is it correct to day that we do care about the openstack/ namespace, and everything which uses legacy jobs (and devstack-gate, which will be retired) in the x/ namespace is basically up to their maintainers and we don't strictly need to work on porting it? | 13:33 |
| gmann | tosky: yeah, correct. x/ namespace things does not fall under goal scope and they can take care by their own pace. though retiring d-g will be tricky as not juts x/ namespace but lot of 3rd party CI depends on that | 13:35 |
| AJaeger | tosky: I would reformulate it: Is it about official repos (mentioned in governance/reference/projects.yaml and governance/reference/sigs-repos.yaml)? Or everything on opendev? | 13:35 |
| AJaeger | tosky: otherwise I agree with gmann | 13:36 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: in theory the openstack/ git namespace is now aligned with the repos in projects.yaml+sigs-repos.yaml with a very tiny handful of possible exceptions for effectively official repos not belonging to a team or sig. the only other stuff which ought to be in there is retired repos | 13:59 |
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| AJaeger | fungi: very tiny handful? Looks more to me - let me generate a list ;) | 14:01 |
| fungi | AJaeger: some projects in there may not have been correctly/completely retired yet | 14:02 |
| AJaeger | fungi: yes. Right now 728 repos in projects.yaml + sigs-repos.yaml while 755 are in openstack namespace | 14:05 |
| fungi | that's not too huge of a disparity at least | 14:05 |
| AJaeger | http://paste.openstack.org/show/794527/ - including election ;) | 14:07 |
| AJaeger | and ideas which are tc-owned | 14:07 |
| AJaeger | tc-owned ones I missed - those are 11 | 14:08 |
| fungi | right, i forgot we have a file for that | 14:08 |
| AJaeger | so did I | 14:08 |
| fungi | so that leaves 16 untracked? | 14:09 |
| fungi | hopefully mostly retired | 14:09 |
| AJaeger | nope - I only counted non-retired repos | 14:15 |
| AJaeger | fungi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/794528/ is the updated list | 14:18 |
| AJaeger | wait, there's user-committee-repos.yaml as well... | 14:19 |
| fungi | yeah, those will likely need to get folded into tc-owned | 14:19 |
| AJaeger | So, new list is short enough to paste here: dragonflow interop networking-l2gw networking-l2gw-tempest-plugin networking-onos openstack-ux python-dracclient python-tempestconf refstack refstack-client solum-infra-guestagent transparency-policy | 14:20 |
| AJaeger | fungi: tiny compared to what we have - so, now I agree with you ;). I thought there was more | 14:21 |
| fungi | refstack, refstack-client and python-tempestconf belonged to the interop wg | 14:22 |
| fungi | as did the interop repo i guess | 14:22 |
| AJaeger | yep | 14:22 |
| fungi | and transparency-policy belonged to the board i think so should probably be in the osf namespace | 14:22 |
| fungi | i guess since the interop wg is a board delegation, those should be in osf as well (though they're mostly openstack-specific) | 14:23 |
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| gmann | +1 on moving interop repos to osf namespace | 14:40 |
| njohnston | +1 as well | 14:47 |
| tosky | yeah (as python-tempestconf core) | 14:48 |
| fungi | openstack-ux was likely for the now defunct ui/ux wg | 15:06 |
| fungi | or maybe it was actually a program at one point, now that i think back | 15:06 |
| AJaeger | The opendev team plans to do a rename on the 12th - if any of the repos mentioned earlier should be renamed, please move quickly to hit this window. | 15:27 |
| clarkb | and if we need to wait a week instead please let us know (I'd rather wait a few days then get asked why we haven't renamed a repo yet during the ussuri release) | 15:34 |
| gmann | AJaeger: clarkb: ack, I will discuss it in today interop meeting and propose accordingly. | 15:37 |
| AJaeger | thx | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/governance master: Add more clarification on project retirement process https://review.opendev.org/734648 | 16:38 |
| gmann | tc-members ^^ adding force merge clarification for project retirement process. As discussed in PTG, this is pre-step to proceed over Tricircle retirement. | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/governance master: Add more clarification on project retirement process https://review.opendev.org/734648 | 17:20 |
| gmann | ttx: comment on tc-us merge patch, please check if making meeting/chair etc as single thing make sense and does not break by-law. | 17:21 |
| gmann | tc-uc | 17:21 |
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| gmann | fungi: AJaeger clarkb : interop repos renaming. - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734669/1 | 18:53 |
| clarkb | gmann: can you add it to the wiki, and is the interop team prepared to deal with the results of that? | 18:54 |
| clarkb | (things should redirect, but jobs may need updating and so on) | 18:54 |
| gmann | clarkb: ok, redirect is one things they said need. job updating? | 18:55 |
| clarkb | gmann: if there are required-projects listed in a job or things like that you'll need to update the jobs iirc | 18:55 |
| gmann | ah i see. | 18:56 |
| gmann | let me send ML also so that if any project job using those. interop job used in tempest is defined in interop side which need update - https://opendev.org/openstack/interop/src/branch/master/zuul.d/jobs.yaml#L12 | 18:57 |
| gmann | clarkb: added in wiki. | 18:58 |
| njohnston | At 6 plus votes I think we have a majority for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/731213/, and the change has certainly been out there long enough. Any reason not to +W it now? | 19:06 |
| njohnston | That is the focal goal | 19:06 |
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| gmann | clarkb: as github mirror is done via this template 'official-openstack-repo-jobs', should i keep it for interop repos as they might need github mirror ? or any other template for non openstack projects who need github mirror? - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734669/1/zuul.d/projects.yaml | 19:39 |
| AJaeger | gmann: that only works in openstack namespace, you cannot keep it | 19:40 |
| gmann | AJaeger: ohk, how other namespace does? or they are not mirrored? | 19:40 |
| clarkb | gmann: some are mirrored some are not. They all use the same basic system but with different credentials for their github organization | 19:40 |
| AJaeger | I don't think there's an esay template, it needs a secret. So, let's do without - and if ttx wants to add one, he can propose | 19:40 |
| gmann | clarkb: AJaeger ok. if i leave, will existing github link also redirected ? like https://github.com/openstack/interop -> https://opendev.org/osf/interop | 19:43 |
| AJaeger | gmann: that's something the admins of those orgs need to do; ttx is one for openstack, not sure who's the admin for osf. | 19:44 |
| AJaeger | gmann: it won't happen automatically | 19:44 |
| clarkb | it requires you to rename the repo in github which as AJaeger says is possible | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | gmann: and that can be done together with the new job to publish, so no urgency on that one AFAIU | 19:45 |
| gmann | ohk, because many doc have github link so they will be broken right | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | gmann: hope there are some reviewers that can run an sed quickly... | 19:48 |
| fungi | the org transfer in github isn't hard, that can be done shortly after the rename. in the meantime those repos will just grow stale until new mirroring is configured for them | 19:49 |
| gmann | yeah, i am just concern on doc having github links. not-mirroring on github is fine i think. | 19:50 |
| fungi | well, the github links will still remain valid | 19:51 |
| fungi | they'll just either go to a stale repo in the openstack org or, after the transfer steps, get redirected to a stale repo in the gh osf's org | 19:51 |
| fungi | and then mirroring jobs can be configured to push those repos to the new org and they'll be updated again | 19:52 |
| gmann | yeah but outdated. either those get redirect to opendev/.. or mirror or migrate doc to update opendev url | 19:52 |
| fungi | depends on how frequently they update. some probably haven't seen new changes in a very long time anyway | 19:52 |
| gmann | yeah, let's leave for now and interop team figure out later if they want mirroring. | 19:54 |
| gmann | I will fix the job part on renaming and leave rest for later. | 19:56 |
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