Wednesday, 2020-03-04

openstackgerritMerged openstack/election master: Set Victoria  configuration  https://review.opendev.org/70847000:10
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njohnston|phonegmann: not much feedback from my informal survey yet; I will send a reminder and then write up what I have01:05
gmannnjohnston|phone: ok. you can write in same etherpad.01:06
njohnston|phonegmann: will do!01:07
gmannnjohnston|phone: i am sure if anyone want to volunteer for OSC community wide goal, that is one good candidate for V cycle goal if we find someone to drive it01:08
gmanns/sure/not sure/01:08
njohnston|phonegmann: agreed01:09
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gmannjust replied on Tim reference of previous forum sessions/discussions, let's see of anyone volunteer.01:16
gmanntc-members: if anyone would like to take this goal ^^. This will be one of the priority issue we can (must) solve for user.01:18
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/ideas master: Add Project Teapot idea  https://review.opendev.org/71017305:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Clarify doc locations in U goal  https://review.opendev.org/70961709:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Fix transposed links  https://review.opendev.org/71033209:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Guidelines for dropping project teams  https://review.opendev.org/70742109:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: OpenStack-Helm does not require release management  https://review.opendev.org/70578309:11
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/governance master: Merge SDK and OSC teams  https://review.opendev.org/71126516:19
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evrardjpFYI if you intended to go to kubecon EU, it is postponed ...16:35
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/governance master: Merge SDK and OSC teams  https://review.opendev.org/71126516:45
mordredevrardjp: if I didn't intend to go, is it keeping the same schedule?16:45
smcginnis:)16:45
smcginnisGuess I'm glad I cancelled all my flights and hotel Monday.16:46
evrardjpmordred: oh I see that I should have added a comma after FYI. Thanks for being the grammar police.16:47
evrardjphaha16:47
evrardjpsmcginnis: yeah! Did you cancel everything in europe?16:48
evrardjpBecause you had plenty IIRC :p16:48
smcginnisevrardjp: Yeah, all cancelled. And it had worked out so perfectly. :/16:48
smcginnisStill, non-refundable vacation inbetween the work stuff and my wife had her ticket and everything, so I had to buy a last minute flight for myself after cancelling the work-paid-for flights. Still going to be in France and England for a couple weeks. Unless they don't allow me in, I suppose.16:49
evrardjpouch16:50
smcginnisLuckily the ticket wasn't too outrageous. And I actually do want to go and support the local businesses that are depenedent on tourism.16:51
smcginnisGoing to be a rough time for many of them.16:51
evrardjpyeah. It's already hurting businesses linked to travel16:52
evrardjpthat's gonna be quite an economic slowdown for italy, which definitely didn't need it.16:53
gmannluckily, I booked the refundable ticket otherwise it would have cost a lot.16:55
clarkba lot of airlines are letting you change tickets for free16:58
evrardjpyeah but the dates of the next event aren't published yet16:58
smcginnisMy flight from Athens to Lithuania was the only non-refundable, no-credit one. But being a local EU flight, really wasn't a big deal.16:58
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/ideas master: Add Project Teapot idea  https://review.opendev.org/71017317:12
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smcginnisI propose we go back to having the TC made up of all of the PTLs. :}20:07
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mordredsmcginnis: (it never was)20:21
smcginnismordred: Wasn't that how things worked before it was called the Technical Committee?20:28
mordredsmcginnis: well ...20:33
* mordred puts on grandpa hat and sits back in the rocking chair20:33
mordredsmcginnis: when it was the Project Policy Board, there were some members who were just appointed by Rackspace, some members who were directly elected, and then yes, the PTLs each had a seat. of course, at that point in time that was nova, swift, glance, burrow, horizon and keystone at its largest iirc20:35
smcginnisJust need to buy some more folding chairs.20:36
mordredI'm sorry - wasn't even that many officilal ones: https://www.openstack.org/blog/?p=65520:36
smcginnisWhat was burrow?20:36
mordredqueue as a service20:37
mordredhttps://launchpad.net/burrow20:38
smcginnisTIL20:38
mordredburrow is my goto for obscure old-days openstack trivia20:39
smcginnisIndeed!20:39
zanebsmcginnis: there were two at-large members as well as the PTLs20:39
mordredyah20:39
mordredhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/Structure is fun if you havent' read it20:42
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mordredsmcginnis: I can't find any documents describing the even older "project oversight committee" - but https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/OldModel is a good description of the PPB20:45
mordredzaneb: and it was 5 at-large - staggered 3 and 220:46
mordredand 4 appointed by rax20:46
zanebI meant the TC not the PPB20:46
* zaneb was not around for the PPB phase20:47
zanebcould easily have misremembered the number though20:47
mordredzaneb: it's easy to misremember numbers - that's why we keep ttx around :)20:47
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zanebchecking out election results from 2013, it does indeed look like it might have been 520:50
smcginnis"A Brief History of OpenStack" could be a good read. But only 10-15 of us would actually buy it.20:52
fungii already wrote a brief history of zuul, i'll let someone else put the openstack version together ;)20:53
mordredsmcginnis: you know - when MySQL, Inc turned 10, they produced a book "MySQL: The First 10 Years". It was handed out to employees at the All Company Meeting where it was announced we'd been bought by Sun21:11
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smcginnisParting gift? :)21:12
mordredright?21:14
mordredsmcginnis: I'm sorry - that title is not right. "The MySQL Story - A Brief History for MySQLers - Part 1: 1995 - 2007"21:15
smcginnis"Currently unavailable" on Amazon. :D21:17
mordredthat would be it :)21:17
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