Monday, 2019-10-28

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toskygmann: just in case, about the goal proposal for zuul v3 migration: I will be on vacation from tomorrow for the rest of the week, I won't probably answer promptly to the comments09:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance-sigs master: Create Technical Writing SIG  https://review.opendev.org/69127710:09
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asettleo/10:47
EmilienMasettle: \o11:04
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asettleEmilienM, well hiiii11:09
EmilienMheyyeyehehy11:09
EmilienMsorry11:09
EmilienMmonday morning11:09
asettleNo no, continue11:10
EmilienMasettle: how are things here?11:10
EmilienM(brb)11:10
asettleEmilienM, good good! Cold.11:11
asettleYou?11:12
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openstackgerritLuigi Toscano proposed openstack/governance master: Propose a new goal to migrate all legacy zuul jobs  https://review.opendev.org/69127811:43
evrardjpasettle: He is in Canada, how can you complain about cold? :p11:45
evrardjphahah11:45
evrardjpand hello!11:46
evrardjpI am back for two days!11:46
evrardjptc-members in the past at the joint leadership meeting, the TC said a few words about cross-community initiatives, where OpenStack projects worked with other open source projects outside openstack -- Are there some collaborations you want to highlight?11:49
evrardjpmnaser: maybe you want to highlight some collaboration from OpenStack with the Ansible project? (though that could be done from a Zuul update perspective too)11:50
mnaseryou pretty much covered it. I'm also prerty swamped pre summit so I don't have any more time for this11:53
EmilienMasettle: actually in France this month so not sure about cold :D11:54
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asettleEmilienM, oh that's not so bad then :D it's a bit warmer there at the mo11:55
evrardjpEmilienM: oh, enjoy!11:55
asettleSeeing fam for a while?11:55
evrardjpasettle: what's the weather like in BoJo country? ;)11:56
asettleWe tend to just call it England11:56
asettleBut it was 5 degrees this morning11:56
evrardjpasettle: sed -i 's/eng/waste/' :p11:57
evrardjpouch that's cold11:57
asettleYeah wasn't pleasant :(11:57
asettleYou>?11:57
evrardjpIt's supposed to be 11.11:58
asettleDoesn't feel like it?11:58
evrardjpfeels colder :p11:58
evrardjpI had a nicer climate in my holidays!11:59
smcginnis-0.5 here, so quit yer complainin' :)12:00
asettleUgh already?!12:00
asettleNo thanks12:00
evrardjpyeah but it's a cold place smcginnis is living in :p12:01
evrardjpuntil he moves to Europe I mean ;)12:01
smcginnisAt least Shanghai will be nice in that respect.12:02
evrardjpyeah!12:02
asettleThat's true.12:02
evrardjpsmcginnis: you'll gain around 15 degrees in one go12:02
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fungiand to think, there's an entire country north of smcginnis13:08
fungiit even has people in it13:09
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ttx-0.5... °C?13:12
jrolllet's hope so, it's way too early for subzero F13:14
fungiit's 18.3c here, first thing in the morning. hasn't started cooling down yet13:14
smcginnisYeah, C. Way too early for -.5F!13:15
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evrardjptc-members if there are things you want to see in the TC presentation for Sunday, don't hesitate to contact me13:55
evrardjpor ricolin :)13:56
mnaserare the slides available somewhere right now?13:56
diablo_rojoo/13:59
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evrardjpmnaser: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1aSoCYVGbQ7WNy8__Umbl7kGKu7zWOG1fPSKvQJ8jvfI/edit?usp=sharing14:30
evrardjpit's still drafting state I would say14:30
mnaserthanks14:30
evrardjpmnaser: does google docs work fine in china?14:33
evrardjpelse I will have to export this into pdf.14:33
mnaserno, google will not work, roaming cell phone connections are not subject to gfw14:34
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mnaserso you either use google and use roaming/hotspot or vpn (i dont suggest, these can weirdly get detected, even if you're runnning it on port 443)14:34
evrardjpso I shouldn't buy a sim card in china, but spend money in roaming instead?14:35
mnaserif you buy a sim card in china (from a chinese provider), you will be subject to the fireawll14:36
mnaserthere's some people who buy a hong kong sim and use it in china and that's not subject to it, but im not sure how all that works14:36
mnasermy carrier offers something like $10 a day to get my plan back home in china (same amount of data, etc) so i stick to that -- and i have a chinese sim for all the local stuff that need a phone number14:37
zanebmnaser: what stuff needs a local phone number?14:37
mnaserzaneb: bank account, ability to use wechat pay -- but those are probably not that needed for a 1 time trip14:38
zanebok14:38
mnasergetting a chinese apple account is needed to download didi (china's version of uber) if you're on iphone14:39
zanebI bought a cheap android for this trip14:39
mnaseryeah you're good then, you can download the apk14:39
mnaserdidi is neat in that it can charge credit cards14:39
zanebalso signed up for Google Fi for the month because they don't charge extra for roaming14:40
zanebpro tip there for US-based folks ^14:40
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ricolinThe only thing you might need in your phone is some map app will work in china like baidu map. oh also maybe baidu search engine too14:43
evrardjpopen street map seems to work14:46
evrardjpricolin: does duck duck go work? curious14:47
ricolinno idea:)14:47
mnaseri have tried to 'force myself' to use local services just to get a feel for what its like in terms of expereince14:47
evrardjpI suppose qwant doesn't14:47
evrardjpmnaser: that's good14:47
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openstackgerritLuigi Toscano proposed openstack/governance master: Propose a new goal to migrate all legacy zuul jobs  https://review.opendev.org/69127814:55
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fungiyeah, fiddling with getting openstreetmap and its map data installed onto my portables so i can navigate even if i don't have a network connection15:04
smcginnisI thought didi required a Chinese bank account to use?15:06
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ricolindidi required a local phone number to bind with15:12
smcginnisBack to the taxi line then. ;)15:14
ricolinsmcginnis, there's no problem to poll taxi in Airport IIUC15:14
smcginnisCool, thanks ricolin. That's my plan.15:15
ricolinas for didi, if you really need it, maybe ask front table of hotels to help you and pay the driver by cash15:15
clarkbthe shanghai transport card can apparently pay taxis too if you pick one of those up15:15
smcginnisPast trips always worked well for me to ask for a taxi at the hotel or have restaurants call for one.15:16
smcginnisclarkb: Oooh, links?15:16
smcginnishttps://www.travelchinaguide.com/cityguides/shanghai/transportation/card-use.htm15:16
smcginnisNice - "including taxis, buses, tourist buses, long-distance buses, metro lines, maglev trains, ferries and trucks"15:17
clarkbya supposedly you can get one at the maglev etation in the airport then use it for the maglev, metro, and taxis15:17
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mnaseryou can use didi without a local phone number fyi15:23
mnaserand even with a visa/mastercard credit card afaik15:23
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smcginnisI've been hearing a lot of conflicting information about that now.15:26
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mnaserok so i just  opened my didi and its linked to my canadian phone number15:32
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cloudnullIDK if folks use, or will want to use wechat, but you can find me there id: cloudnull15:48
smcginnisMine is sean_mcginnis15:51
cloudnulladded .15:51
gmanntosky: thanks for info.i will check that. btw will you be in Shanghai ?15:55
toskygmann: sadly not15:59
toskybut I will be working that week, so if you have questions and I'm online I can answer16:00
gmanntosky: i see. thanks. we have a sessions to discuss the details of proposed goal but that can be done via gerrit or ML also.16:00
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/governance master: Add goal to drop Python 2.7 Support  https://review.opendev.org/69117816:30
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gmannttx: asettle smcginnis updated and it is ready to re-review - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691178/417:09
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gmanntc-members, looking for review or speedy approval for py2 drop goal as there are lot of patches started on many projects/library etc on random basis and with bit & pieces updates - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691178/17:58
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/governance master: Add goal to drop Python 2.7 Support  https://review.opendev.org/69117818:18
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/governance master: Add goal for project specific PTL and contributor guides  https://review.opendev.org/69173718:58
smcginnisThis is all kinds of wrong to me - https://gitroyalty.com/19:03
* fungi sighs19:13
jrollugh19:27
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jrollon the plus side, it seems that only one person (I assume the same person who made gitroyalty, is hiding code behind this19:29
smcginnisI noticed that too.19:34
fungiperhaps it's satire19:44
jungleboyj*smh*20:43
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