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| ttx | ricolin: evrardjp_ won't be back from vacation before the Board meeting tomorrow, so we should probably work together to produce the Airship feedback (if any) | 08:28 |
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| ttx | ricolin: could you work on that with me tomorrow (EU morning, Asia afternoon)? | 08:30 |
| ttx | tc-members: please provide your feedback on Airship before EOD today on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-tc-airship-confirmation-feedback | 08:30 |
| ricolin | yes | 08:30 |
| asettle | Thanks ttx | 08:31 |
| asettle | Morning o/ | 08:31 |
| ricolin | o/ | 08:31 |
| ttx | context: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010164.html | 08:31 |
| ttx | ricolin: let's work on that during office hour tomorrow? That way others can join and help | 08:32 |
| ricolin | ttx sounds good to me | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Turn PowerVMStackers team into a SIG https://review.opendev.org/680438 | 10:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: Create PowerVMStackers SIG https://review.opendev.org/689119 | 10:27 |
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| zaneb | ttx: who is in red on that etherpad? | 13:53 |
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| ttx | zaneb: probably me, pink-red-ish | 13:54 |
| zaneb | cool, that's what I suspected :) | 13:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Adoption of microversion-parse by Oslo team https://review.opendev.org/689754 | 14:13 |
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| diablo_rojo | o/ | 15:50 |
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| diablo_rojo | tc_members: Wanted to bring up the topic of PTG Lunch presentations again to make sure everyone sees it. There's no place to do them since we will be doing lunch in the pre function space/ hallway area anyway. But I wanted to make sure there were no vehement objections from nixing them from the plan this time around. | 16:44 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: thanks. i was thinking it would be good if we publish the py27 drop plan in lunch presentation so that all projects leads/core get the info/sync if they miss to follow the ML. | 16:49 |
| gmann | but if no space this time then I am ok on skipping it. | 16:53 |
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| diablo_rojo | gmann, I think there are some slots left for lighting talks during the summit if you wanted to do something like that instead? | 17:04 |
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| fungi | it's more a logistical challenge: no food allowed in presentation rooms, no presentation capability in lunch space | 17:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Basically the presenters could present in the room to noone while everyone is in the hall eating.. | 17:07 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo: instead of lighting talk it think PTG topic will be more suitable for that? i have added that in TC ptg etherpad. | 17:09 |
| diablo_rojo | gmann, sounds good :) Makes sense to me! | 17:09 |
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| smcginnis | Maybe we need to create some posters. :) | 17:50 |
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| fungi | a good old-fashioned academic poster exhibit | 18:03 |
| fungi | it might make our friends who spend more time at scientific conferences feel more at-home | 18:04 |
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| dhellmann | I always wanted to mix "news" items in with the holding pattern advertising slides shown in the rooms between sessions. | 18:31 |
| dhellmann | So between thanking various sponsors, there could be a slide that says "go to $short-memorable-url for details about the python 2-to-3 transition" | 18:31 |
| dhellmann | diablo_rojo : ^ | 18:32 |
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| fungi | tc-members: please provide your feedback on Airship before EOD today on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-tc-airship-confirmation-feedback | 18:57 |
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| jungleboyj | fungi: I have looked and don't have additional comments right now. | 19:00 |
| fungi | no worries, just making sure folks don't miss the opportunity to provide feedback before the board possibly makes a decision on it tomorrow | 19:01 |
| fungi | the confirmation guidelines imply a need for the board to consider feedback from other osf projects | 19:02 |
| jungleboyj | fungi: ++ | 19:02 |
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| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, oh thats a cool idea | 20:26 |
| diablo_rojo | It might be a little short notice for the design people for shanghai, but I will definitely ask. | 20:27 |
| smcginnis | Seems like a great way to passively reach a lot of people. | 20:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah definitely | 20:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Do we have a few things we would want? | 20:27 |
| diablo_rojo | I imagine to get it in I would need a concrete list like..today. | 20:27 |
| smcginnis | Here's a list - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_concrete | 20:28 |
| smcginnis | :P | 20:28 |
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| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, :P | 20:28 |
| smcginnis | I could see something for the py3 transition, maybe an overview of the Ussuri release milestones, list of cycle goals? I'm sure we could probably think of more. | 20:30 |
| smcginnis | But even if we just had a flash screen to spread awareness about dropping Python 2, that would be good. | 20:30 |
| smcginnis | Maybe even better since it would be a focused message. | 20:31 |
| smcginnis | It is a pretty significant change with a big impact. | 20:31 |
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| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, dhellmann I pinged some people, will let you know when I hear back :) | 20:36 |
| smcginnis | Awesome, thanks diablo_rojo | 20:36 |
| dhellmann | :thumbs-up: | 20:37 |
| fungi | we did work a note into the last osf newsletter about that too | 20:39 |
| fungi | at clarkb's suggestion | 20:39 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, dhellmann I'm being told each OSF project is getting a what's new slide. So we can put the dropping python support there + anything else, but they need the info today as they are in design now. | 20:39 |
| diablo_rojo | *python 2 support | 20:39 |
| dhellmann | you should come up with a short statement about dropping support and make a shortened URL that you can point to a page that will have more information later | 20:40 |
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| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, got something in mind? I am being asked for as few words as possible since it will also be translated into CHinese. | 20:42 |
| fungi | or we could just steal my prose from the newsletter if that's easier | 20:42 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, yeah that could work too | 20:43 |
| fungi | ahh, if brevity is desired, then maybe don't use anything i write ;) | 20:43 |
| dhellmann | heh | 20:43 |
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| diablo_rojo | fungi, lol | 20:43 |
| diablo_rojo | Brevity is the soul of wit I'm told. | 20:43 |
| diablo_rojo | I must not be very witty. | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | I hear asettle is good at wording. | 20:44 |
| diablo_rojo | Too bad its almost 10pm :/ | 20:44 |
| diablo_rojo | for her anyway | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | well, let's us amateurs try, then | 20:45 |
| dhellmann | what's important to know about the move? | 20:45 |
| smcginnis | "Python 2 support is going away. Go here for more info - tiny.cc/GoBoom" | 20:46 |
| diablo_rojo | lol | 20:46 |
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| diablo_rojo | Thats about all I could come up with. | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | maybe focus on the move, rather than what is being dropped? | 20:48 |
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| dhellmann | OpenStack Ussuri will run entirely on Python 3... | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | learn what this means for you at ... | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | or OpenStack Ussuri is being upgraded to Python 3 blah blah | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | use some positive words | 20:50 |
| fungi | that's also a better forward-looking phrasing, mine in the newsletter was focused more on train being the last release to support 2.7, rather than anything to do with ussuri | 20:53 |
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| dhellmann | the important part is the qr code ;-) | 20:57 |
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| diablo_rojo | I like the "OpenStack Ussuri will run entirely on Python 3; learn what this means for you at X" | 21:13 |
| diablo_rojo | What else do we want to include on the slide? | 21:14 |
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| dhellmann | the URL, and I was only sort of kidding about a qr code if that's possible | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | also some sort of attention getting symbol | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | I don't know what's culturally appropriate for that | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | an ! ? | 21:28 |
| fungi | /!\ | 21:31 |
| fungi | (caution: wet floor) | 21:32 |
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| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, do we have a link we want to use? I think James needs a url like today. | 22:02 |
| dhellmann | diablo_rojo : I would make one up under the tc repo, then use a URL shortener to give it a memorable name, then work on publishing a page to that url | 22:03 |
| dhellmann | that way you can have a url like bit.ly/ussuri-python3 | 22:03 |
| dhellmann | and you don't have to rush to get that page put together | 22:03 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure if you can edit the bit.ly definition or not after you create it | 22:04 |
| fungi | or you can just decide what the url will be of a page you're planning to publish, i guess | 22:04 |
| dhellmann | and I said under that tc repo but this might be a good use of the wiki? | 22:04 |
| dhellmann | well, the idea with the shortener is to make it something short and easy to remember | 22:05 |
| dhellmann | those slides don't stay up forever | 22:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Well we should have the page by Shanghai which is only two weeks away and I dont really have time to put something together before then. I would feel better providing a url if I knew someone was signed up to make said page. | 22:05 |
| dhellmann | perhaps gmann would have time to do it? | 22:05 |
| dhellmann | I'm just the idea guy today, I don't have time to actually do anything :-/ | 22:05 |
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| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, ideas are important too :) | 22:05 |
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| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, open to other ideas of things you want to include in the news slide :) | 22:16 |
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| dhellmann | oh, not related to python3? | 22:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah we could have a few things on the slide | 22:20 |
| dhellmann | I think there were some ideas from others earlier in channel, but I don't know what's important right now | 22:20 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : suggested highlighting deadlines | 22:20 |
| fungi | there was also a suggestion for cycle goals | 22:32 |
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| diablo_rojo | Oh yes, cycle goals | 22:42 |
| diablo_rojo | I dont know that we have the space to go through all four of them | 22:42 |
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| fungi | "we have some cycle goals, but this margin is too small to contain them" | 22:55 |
| fungi | hype it up fermat style | 22:55 |
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| diablo_rojo | Lol that could work. | 23:17 |
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