Wednesday, 2019-01-02

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fungithat was another quiet office hour just now02:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update the policy-in-code goal for neutron  https://review.openstack.org/62527616:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: add a note to chair duties about tracking board work  https://review.openstack.org/62664416:52
dhellmanntc-members: my apologies for the short notice on the agenda for this month's meeting: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/001354.html17:07
dhellmannalso, happy new year17:07
dhellmann:-)17:07
fungithanks!17:08
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fungitomorrow will be the one-month anniversary of closing down the general openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-operators and openstack-sigs mailing lists18:12
fungii'm planning to send out an openstack-discuss adoption report, but for preliminary numbers we're up to 703 subscribers, and 70% of the addresses seen posting at least 10 messages to one or more of those four old lists in 2018 are now subscribed to the new list18:13
cdent703 is fewer than I would prefer18:16
cdentnot sure why I feel that way18:16
persiaI read "703" as "About two-thirds of regular contributors have been attending the smaller gatherings recently".18:17
fungicomparing posting volume, in december of 2017 we saw 1033 in total across the four old lists, and openstack-discuss had 912 posts in december of 2018, so comparable18:18
fungirelatively in keeping with the decline in posting volume we've seen over the past several years18:19
fungifor context, the openstack-sigs mailing list, which was supposed to be our place for community-wide discussion before we realized it wasn't working out, only garnered 183 subscribers over the 16 months it existed18:22
fungiand in 2018 only saw posts from a total of 100 different addresses18:23
cdentI suspect openstack-sigs suffered from a lack of advertising and definition18:41
cdentfor example, just then is the first time I've heard it being described as _the_ place for community-wide discussion18:42
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fungiwell, sigs were intended as the vehicle for topics cutting across operational and development demographics, and openstack-sigs was defined as the communications channel for them21:32
fungibut if we didn't get a critical mass of people in developer and operator roles to subscribe and post to it, then that was never going to actually become true21:33
fungias the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" and now we've at least succeeded in leading our horses to the water anyway21:34
fungii think we'll need a lot more time to see if they really drink more than they were21:35
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