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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/governance master: Explicitly declare Stein supported runtimes https://review.openstack.org/611080 | 00:38 |
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| evrardjp | mnaser: dhellmann yeah, we have referenced OSA as openstack-ansible since the start.... except in governance which (I was told) at that time didn't accept dashes. | 07:59 |
| evrardjp | That time has long changed, and we didn't have the exceptional need for it. For consistency I thought changing it, then I realised that this crusade was probably not worth a lot of time :p | 08:00 |
| evrardjp | I am fine with changing it, but I am afraid of the fallout... It could have an impact on releases, on probably many other places | 08:00 |
| evrardjp | if there is now a problem on project map, I totally get why we should do it :) | 08:01 |
| evrardjp | in fact I'd be inclined to change it in governance, and know what the fallout is. So we know the impact of changing a name in the future :) | 08:03 |
| evrardjp | tbh if we have to create a new file in releases to match the new 'dashed' notation, it's fine for me. It would be even better, as the new releases will be easier handled by the new release cli | 08:24 |
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| ttx | Also remember that the team name and the deliverable name are two different things | 08:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | chenge proposed openstack/governance master: fix http links https://review.openstack.org/625188 | 09:02 |
| ttx | evrardjp: I don't think there is a problem with the map (see my comment on the review) | 09:08 |
| evrardjp | yeah that was my expectation. | 09:36 |
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| ttx | tc-members: OSF staff will publish a new "community newsletter" early next week... Is there anything we should make sure to mention re:OpenStack ? | 14:10 |
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| ttx | I was thinking about pointing to the role of the TC review, train community goals, maybe pointing to a list of Forum summaries, maybe pointing to jeremy's "on trust and risk" piece, the SDK validation discussion... | 14:18 |
| cmurphy | ++ to sharing fungi's email | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | That list looks good to me. | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | ttx: What is the target audience we are trying to reach with these? | 14:34 |
| fungi | people who are mostly out of touch with what's going on in openstack, people who perhaps aren't but think they are, newcomers, et cetera | 14:35 |
| ttx | smcginnis: I'd say two groups: full newcomers to the community that want to keep track of what's happening, and people that are involved in one project but would like light info on everything OSF | 14:35 |
| fungi | "people who don't read the mailing list (much)" | 14:35 |
| fungi | ttx: did we mention the mailing list merge in the previous bulletin? | 14:36 |
| ttx | But it could also serve as a "you may have missed" style reminder for those that actually try to follow the list too | 14:36 |
| ttx | fungi: yes | 14:36 |
| fungi | i still see a fair number of people sending new questions to openstack@l.o.o, then again it's early in the life of openstack-discuss still so word will take a while to get around | 14:37 |
| lbragstad | ttx yeah - i think that list looks good | 14:37 |
| smcginnis | Probably worth a small mention again to help get the word out some more. | 14:38 |
| ttx | smcginnis: all abovementioned topics point to a ML thread on -discuss. The idea is also to encourage people to join the ML (step 2 of involvement) | 14:39 |
| ttx | but rather than say "join the ML" we say "Ohhh! Look here! Interesting discussions!" | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | Just thinking, especially after this week, there are some that are interested in what is going on in OpenStack but not necessarily care about some of the minutia. But your list of topics looks great for that. | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | There is another set of folks that do want more details, but those folks should probably just be skimming the ML if they want to keep up on those kinds of details. | 14:42 |
| ttx | smcginnis: how was KubeCon? | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | I'm still trying to mentally digest it. :) | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | It was good. Lot's of useful sessions. Still a lot of growth. | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | Talking with some other current and former OpenStack folks (there were a lot here) the feeling was kind of like this was our Atlanta. | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | So feels like one or two more events with some growth, then it will be interesting to see what happens after that. | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | There does seem to be less of a "community" overall. | 14:47 |
| smcginnis | Still one or two vendors driving a lot of things. | 14:47 |
| smcginnis | Depending on the area of course. | 14:47 |
| smcginnis | But less overall inclusiveness and "big family" feel that I felt coming into the OpenStack community. | 14:48 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: so when is "Paris"'s KubeCon again? :D | 14:49 |
| smcginnis | If things somewhat follow us, that should be the next one. | 14:49 |
| evrardjp | Interesting! | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/governance master: Update the policy-in-code goal for neutron https://review.openstack.org/625276 | 14:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Update charter to include PTL appointment https://review.openstack.org/620928 | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add more clarity on TC chair term https://review.openstack.org/621498 | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: refactor vote testing for delegated reviews https://review.openstack.org/624754 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: report whether delegated reviewer has commented on patch https://review.openstack.org/624755 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: fix http links https://review.openstack.org/625188 | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: document the topic tags for each house rule https://review.openstack.org/625004 | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: add explicit house rule for documentation changes https://review.openstack.org/625005 | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Clarify release management for murano deliverables https://review.openstack.org/624951 | 16:44 |
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| clarkb | smcginnis: I wonder how much of that relates to the size of the event | 19:36 |
| smcginnis | That could very well be. I hit E_TOOMANYPEOPLE several times. | 19:38 |
| clarkb | Austin was close to the reported number of people for this kubecon 7.5k vs 8k aiui and austin felt "disconnected" to me | 19:39 |
| clarkb | though that may have also just been needing to walk halfaway across texas to get to rooms so didn't have time totalk to people :) | 19:39 |
| smcginnis | Heh, there was a bit of that here too. But not quite as bad as the Austin Convention Center. | 19:40 |
| clarkb | the seattle convention center is a lot more vertical | 19:41 |
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| smcginnis | Lot's of up and down the escalators. Which with 8k people made it... challenging. | 19:42 |
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| fungi | and a fire risk | 20:36 |
| smcginnis | All the rain mitigated that risk. :D | 20:38 |
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