Monday, 2018-03-19

openstackgerritYumengBao proposed openstack/governance master: Add Cyborg-specs Repository to the Governance Repository
openstackgerritYumengBao proposed openstack/governance master: Add Cyborg-specs repository to the governance repository
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add xstatic-** to horizon project
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update IRC nickname for Samuel Cassiba
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dimshola folks13:59
cdenthim dims14:00
cdentoops! hi14:00
cdentbut also him14:00
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smcginnishim is dims.14:05
cdentdims dims the dimming dimmer dammit14:06
dimswhile eating dimsum :)14:06
smcginnisThere's a Dr Suess rhyme there somewhere, but it's Monday morning and I can't come up with it.14:07
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TheJuliaGood morning15:05
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Resolution for minimal SIG governance
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mriedemsmcginnis: the circular dependency in is why we eol branches :)18:41
smcginnismriedem: I did think about how much more often things like this will happen as branches age.18:42
smcginnisGuess we'll have to see how all that goes.18:42
mriedemdependent libraries are usually the killer18:42
mriedemmore than anything18:42
smcginnisFork them all and manage them ourselves. Full control!18:43
persiaI would think that more nuanced pinning to ensure older branches continue to test with (frozen) older libraries would be the solution, but it isn't worth designing it in detail until we experience aging.18:44
persiaFor some things, it may be wise to have a persistent mirror of everything ever depended upon, but OpenStack has been lucky so far in that none of the dependencies have happened to be projects the creators have tried to remove from the internet (most code hosting orgs and many commercial distros will respond positively to copyright holder requests to cease publication).18:46
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smcginnisThe big gotcha this time was it was a pip change, which we can't technically ping since we need pip first.18:49
persiaI would phrase that as "it is technically difficult to pin pip, as a result of the current test image generation and preparation processes", but yes :)18:50
mriedemyes i remember back in the day at ibm when our test scripts had to pin pip on like havana18:59
mriedemthe good old says18:59
clarkbjust remember that pinning is like a snowball going down hill19:01
clarkbpin one thing which pops up a new thing, pin that and repeat19:01
mriedemyeah i remember all too well the days before upper-constraints19:09
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* persia reads backscroll and delights in the image of upper-constraints being the base of a snowman20:11
TheJuliaThat is a moderately delightful thought...20:28
smcginnisToo bad we missed our snowman making chance in Dublin.20:29
cdentit snowed a lot in dublin, but it didn't snow enough to make that big of a snowman20:30
clarkbcdent had a reasonably impressive snowball going though20:33
TheJuliaThe snowball fight was awesome20:33
smcginnisHis snow angels were more impressive. :)20:33
* cdent misses being snowed in in dublin with all the crazy openstack peoples20:34
smcginnisDespite some added stress, that was really pretty fun.20:34
persiaExcept without the stress of everyone worrying about transport, really20:34
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