Wednesday, 2018-03-14

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fungii've already voted. stein ftw00:57
fungitc-members: commence to officing if you like01:00
dhellmanno/01:00
TheJuliao/01:01
fungithere's that conversation starters etherpad... like something from the snl "coffee talk" segments with mike myers01:02
TheJuliacoffee sounds rather delicious at the moment01:03
dhellmannsince I'm doing travel planning for our fiscal year, I'll ask about FOSS-backstage. Is anyone else interested in turning it into a "group" trip?01:03
fungiwhen is it? though i expect my dance card is nearing capacity already01:04
dhellmannhttps://foss-backstage.de berlin 13-14 june01:04
smcginniso/01:07
smcginnisNot sure I could pull that off, but if there were a group of OpenStackers going and we had some sort of talk or something, I probably could do it.01:08
smcginnisCFP closed, so I guess that's not likely.01:08
dhellmannyeah, I should have proposed something but missed the deadline and then missed that they extended it01:09
fungiwe could try to group up around "all things open" (raleigh in october)01:09
fungicfp is still open i think01:09
fungii put in one01:09
smcginnisI went to ATO this last year. Fun little event. Zero OpenStack presense.01:09
smcginnis*presence01:10
fungiopenstackness has varied in the past01:10
fungifirst couple years we had quite a few stackers talk ther01:10
fungie01:10
dhellmannthat's the same week as the summit, isn't it?01:10
fungioh, i wonder if i've screwed up my calendar01:11
dhellmannoh, I misread that, sorry01:11
dhellmann"open source summit" not "open stack summit"01:11
* dhellmann is wearing the wrong glasses01:12
fungiberlin is november01:12
dhellmannour summit isn't until november01:12
dhellmannyeah01:12
dhellmannsorry for the false alarm!01:12
fungino worries, it wouldn't have surprised me01:12
fungii'm terrible with dates01:13
fungiso disorganized01:13
clarkbits typically same week as summit01:14
clarkbsimilar to linux feat NW01:14
clarkb*fest01:14
clarkbbut neither conflict this year01:14
fungiyeah, it's been tight timing at least the last few years01:14
smcginnisThe two times I could have actually gone to OSCon it conflicted with our events.01:14
dhellmannsmcginnis : same01:15
fungii've been to enough oscons i think i've seen it all01:15
dhellmannI may have to start supporting merging the ptg and summit again just so I can go to some other conferences ;-)01:15
fungialso presented at oscon, so i think i'm done with it for a while01:15
clarkbI likely wont ato but will linux fest nw I hope01:15
fungiato is a hike for you01:16
fungifor me it's <4hrs by car01:16
fungimaking it hard to pass up01:16
smcginnisRegistration wasn't too bad either if I remember right.01:17
fungiby far the closest annual free software conference to where i live01:17
dhellmanncloser to 6 for me01:17
dhellmannit's debatable whether it's better to drive or fly01:17
fungiand inexpensive, yeah, even if you don't get a talk accepted01:17
dhellmannis ATO a good conference?01:18
smcginnisATO could be a good place to have a panel about open source project governance or something along those lines.01:18
dhellmannI guess both ATO and FOSS-backstage are far enough out that we have an election between now and then01:18
fungii've enjoyed it but i'm probably a little biased since i know the town and a lot of localish attendees01:18
smcginnisdhellmann: Wide variety of topics, but all seemed good content.01:18
dhellmannit seems like we would want to pull in folks from some other projects if we were going to do a panel01:18
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smcginnisIt has a good low-key vibe too.01:19
smcginnisYeah01:19
fungithe talk i submitted is about the challenges of vulnerability management in open software communities01:19
dhellmannnice01:19
smcginnisThat's a good one.01:19
fungithe dynamic between pressure to keep things secret yet work in the open01:20
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fungiwe'll see if they bite01:20
dhellmannmaybe I'll submit my "lessons learned" talk that I gave at pytn for ato01:21
smcginnisI've always found those kinds of talks interesting.01:21
dhellmann"open source governance for growing projects"01:21
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* dhellmann steps away for a bit01:22
fungiour community has burned conferences out on openstack talks, so i tend to at least try not to emphasize it in my abstracts any more01:22
smcginnisProbably a good call.01:24
smcginnisSome zuul talks might be nice.01:25
fungifor sure01:26
smcginnisNeed to step away now too. Don't forget to turn the office lights off.01:26
* TheJulia wonders if there is a motion detector01:26
smcginnis:)01:26
fungiin unrelated news, members of the kubernetes community fantasize about using irc: https://twitter.com/Kris__Nova/status/973700003272081408?s=1901:27
TheJuliaheh01:28
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fungig'night, ye stackers of old!02:00
fungi*click*02:00
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/governance master: Update new projects reference WRT IRC meetings.  https://review.openstack.org/55272802:21
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Update Stable policy for Extended Maintenance  https://review.openstack.org/55273303:27
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Update Stable policy for Extended Maintenance  https://review.openstack.org/55273305:13
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/governance master: Move kolla-kubernete project under governance of openstack tc  https://review.openstack.org/55253105:58
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/governance master: Add systemd roles to OpenStack-Ansible  https://review.openstack.org/55286610:16
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/governance master: Add a resolution about stable branch EOL and "extended maintenance"  https://review.openstack.org/54891613:24
mriedemremoved the specific phases changes ^13:24
mriedemand punted to later13:24
mriedembut left the note about phase 3 being vestigial after we drop EOL13:24
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fungii agree it's probably best if we don't encode details of stable branch maintenance policy in a resolution and make it harder for the stable maint team to subsequently adjust the policy14:46
smcginnis++14:48
dimsagree fungi14:52
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ttx++15:11
persiaFor those not already following, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552733/ is the stable branch maintenance policy review in draft to support the TC resolution, if made15:17
persia(and is probably the appropriate place to debate details of the policy, for those who wish to do so)15:18
zhipeng++ fungi16:02
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/governance master: Add systemd roles to OpenStack-Ansible  https://review.openstack.org/55286616:09
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Update Stable policy for Extended Maintenance  https://review.openstack.org/55273322:51
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/governance master: Update new projects reference WRT IRC meetings.  https://review.openstack.org/55272822:53
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