Monday, 2017-11-20

openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/governance master: Remove releasenotes/requirements.txt
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openstackgerritHieu LE proposed openstack/governance master: Add policy artifacts for Searchlight
openstackgerritDai Dang Van proposed openstack/governance master: Mark Searchlight policy in code as done
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openstackgerritIfat Afek proposed openstack/governance master: Update the status of Vitrage goals completion
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openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Add designate to the tc:approved-release tag
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openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify testing for interop programs
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cdentmugsie: isn’t there a third option? defcore-tempest-plugin that centralizes those tests?17:38
mugsiecdent: yes, but every time I have put that forward people shout at me17:38
cdent(asking here rather than the review because I figured there’s some background that I want before commenting there)17:38
* cdent sighs17:38
cdentwhich people do that?17:39
mugsieQA usually17:39
cdentthe plugin could still be under QA’s domain presumably…17:39
cdentI’ll comment on the review17:39
cdentdo you have a preference (and why) on the two options?17:40
mugsieit also relys on the tempest plugin interface, which did not not have all the features that the tests in tempest relyed on17:40
mugsieOption 117:40
mugsieits much simpler17:40
mugsie(I do think the plugin interface has progressed a lot at this point, but I am open to correction)17:41
cdentof those two optoins I also prefer 1, but because I think defcore should be a unit of some kind17:41
mugsieyeah, thats part of the simpler bit.17:42
mugsieI personally would really like a interop-tempest-plugin, that could be tagged with each standard, and keep a history of what we have added and removed over the years17:43
* cdent writes a comment17:43
mugsieit also would really highlight to people when they change a test, that they need to be really careful17:44
mugsiecdent: I would be happy to rev this with an Option 3 later on, as long as I am not the only one calling for it :)17:45
* cdent rolls out the double -117:47
dhellmanncdent, mugsie : if the qa team won't manage a set of tests in one place for interop, we could make the repo and put it under another team's management17:50
dhellmannI'd rather not do that, but it's an option17:50
mugsieYeah, I would rather see if we could avoid that, but keep it as an option17:51
cdentI’ve just chatted with mvoelker a bit and he’s not too bothered by option 2 and is not super keen on option 3, but still plumbing for  more info (I’ve also encouraged him to comment)18:22
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openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify testing for interop programs
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cdentthanks for the response mtreinish, I guess I think people’s perceptions are more important (in this particular context) than you do. It’s a thing upon which (I hope) reasonable people can disagree.19:42
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mtreinishcdent: yeah, in this case I'm just weighing it against the real impact on the developers and users more21:04
mtreinishespecially because it's not everyone who sees things that way (and it's actually a small minority I feel)21:04
mtreinishlike I don't think many people actually look at where the tests live to make a judgement on a project's importance or value21:04
mugsieWell, for somethings we are making a value call. In the original resolution, ensuring higher quality of reviews was one of the reasons cited for centralising the tests. Do add on programs have a lower bar for review quality?21:45
mugsieBearing in mind the add on projects (probably) have less QA resources, or people familiar with how the tests get used end to end.21:46
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