Wednesday, 2017-09-20

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fungiturns out i returned with time to spare... who's up for officing at such an hour?00:59
dtroyerHey ho!01:13
dtroyerDid I miss all the fun?01:13
fungii expect we're both missing all the fun01:16
dtroyerfigures… looks like you didn't miss it yesterday though.  Overall, the Gerrit upgrade looks to have gone mostly-smoothly?01:17
fungiyeah. seems like they've about smoothed out most of the bumps now01:18
fungis/they've/we've/01:19
dtroyerit is times like that I do not miss having root passwords :)01:20
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fungiwell, i'm gonna knock off and get some sleep02:13
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openstackgerritzhurong proposed openstack/governance master: Add murano-tempest-plugin to murano project  https://review.openstack.org/49991702:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add murano-tempest-plugin to murano project  https://review.openstack.org/49991708:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update team diversity tags  https://review.openstack.org/50083008:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add zaqar-tempest-plugin to zaqar project  https://review.openstack.org/50133708:03
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Adopt python-openstacksdk into shade project  https://review.openstack.org/50142608:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for Packaging-deb team  https://review.openstack.org/50167408:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add neutron-tempest-plugin to neutron project  https://review.openstack.org/50222208:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for glance team  https://review.openstack.org/50222608:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update tempest plugin split goal for Nova team  https://review.openstack.org/50222708:10
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Remove unofficial projects from tempest plugin split goal  https://review.openstack.org/50170608:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Updating the documentation team mission statement  https://review.openstack.org/49955608:14
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Add driverfixes branch information  https://review.openstack.org/50094108:27
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Apply (voluntarily) the maintenance-mode tag to the Trove project  https://review.openstack.org/48894708:42
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openstackgerritZhipeng Huang proposed openstack/governance master: Cyborg Application For Official Projects  https://review.openstack.org/50494010:41
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sdaguedhellmann: once you get online I can chat a bit more about cyborg from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504940, I'm not sure gerrit comments are the best way to record those bits12:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/project-team-guide master: Add driverfixes branch information  https://review.openstack.org/50094113:00
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dhellmannsdague : good morning13:14
openstackgerritKazunori Shinohara proposed openstack/governance master: Add heat-dashboard to heat project  https://review.openstack.org/50416613:24
sdaguedhellmann: morning o/13:31
sdaguedhellmann: so on the cyborg thing (which originally had a different name that I can't remember now)....13:32
sdaguethe original ask to Nova in the Austin Summit time frame was around FPGA cards13:32
sdaguea group of folks wanted Nova to provision FPGA cards with images out of glance as part of the Nova boot process13:33
sdaguewhich the Nova team said was really an out of scope problem, so we spit balled the idea instead that some other system would be a fleet manager for things like FPGA cards, then "make them available" to Nova via placement13:34
sdagueso basically it inventories them, does any provisioning on them behind the scenes, then populates information that makes them findable in placement. And then via traits or extra specs on Nova flavors, a flavor could require having one of these resources to get scheduled13:35
dhellmannok, as long as this isn't news to the nova team and there's some agreed upon integration, that's fine13:35
dhellmannI just want to avoid a situation like ceilometer, where that stuff wasn't worked out up front and it caused a bunch of friction13:36
sdaguethey expanded the scope beyond FPGA to include other kinds of acceleration hardware people want like GPUs (some of which actually can be provisioned as well into vGPUs)13:36
sdagueyeh, definitely understandable13:36
dhellmannis that same sort of integration going to be useful for other sorts of provisionable resources?13:37
sdagueand no, this isn't one of those cases. This is actually the approach to the solution that the nova team recommended which lets them do all the provisioning / inventory in their own codebase and use pretty standard interfaces of flavors/traits/placement to make them available for nova.13:37
dhellmannok, good13:37
sdagueI don't know exactly the extent of the kinds of resources they'll tackle. The FPGA and GPU ones are the ones with real users and use cases today, so I expect that's what they'll solve for first13:39
dhellmannsdague : thanks for the background info13:39
sdaguedhellmann: no problem13:39
dhellmannyeah, I'd also hate for us to sprout 15 different services for finding different sorts of special hardware13:39
dhellmann"they do GPUs, our project does entropy tokens"13:40
sdagueyeh, agreed. But I also don't want to make them solve too generic of a problem and get bogged down.13:40
dhellmannyeah. see the road ahead, but watch your feet.13:40
sdaguehonestly, I think the most important parts of the project is showing it's doable with GPU/FPGA, and really firming up the path of other services working directly with placement & traits13:41
sdagueand working out any kinks that were not anticipated there from the nova side in carving out those interfaces13:41
johnthetubaguysdague: I am still getting a bad feeling around the adding glare thingy, I added some comments about my API related worries14:49
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yeh, I already RC -1 on that14:49
sdagueeven if it's technically different, the community impacts have to be taken into account14:49
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dhellmannsdague : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505723/ isn't giving me the expected results for things I haven't voted on in the TC repo. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?16:27
dhellmannI wonder if reviewedby doesn't look at the rollcall votes16:28
dhellmannno, that doesn't seem to be it.16:29
dhellmannbasically I'm not seeing anything in the "formal vote items I have not voted in yet" list even though there are a bunch16:30
dhellmannoh, hang on. I had a stale tab16:30
dhellmannblah16:30
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: typo in masakari mission statement  https://review.openstack.org/50574216:42
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