Thursday, 2017-07-13

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add os-service-types repo to shade project  https://review.openstack.org/48074809:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Create tempest-tripleo-ui project  https://review.openstack.org/48131709:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add champions to selected Queens goals  https://review.openstack.org/48286909:31
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack/governance master: charms: Add deployment guide  https://review.openstack.org/48342814:31
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EmilienMTC office hour starts in 5 min14:56
fungiso it does!14:56
EmilienMfeel free to ping here for any question14:56
smcginnisTC office hour starts now15:00
* fungi braces for the flood of discussion15:01
smcginnis:)15:01
fungithe ptgbot deployment is nearly done. i tested through it last night and posted a few more minor fixes under topic:ptgbot15:02
smcginnisfungi: Nice!15:02
* cdent has his ears on15:02
fungittx did all the hard work, i just glued it together and wrapped it in duct tape15:02
* cdent gives EmilienM an early G&T15:02
fungimy focus is now primarily shifting to integrating the foundation member directory lookup api into the tool we use for building rolls for our technical elections15:03
EmilienMcdent: it's 8am here, I can't drink it yet15:03
EmilienMcdent: maybe in 1h or 2 :D15:03
fungiit's 11am here, so totally time for a drink ;)15:03
smcginnisEmilienM: It's after 5pm somewhere in the world. :D15:03
cdentI went to a _lot_ of effort to create this thing. You _will_ drink it.15:04
* EmilienM drinks it right now15:04
* EmilienM goes back to sleep15:04
cdentsuccess15:04
EmilienMcdent: I see your strategy, you didn't want me to talk here :P15:05
cdentactually I feel like I haven’t chatted with you in a very long time15:05
* mordred waves to people15:05
funginot sure i mentioned it previously in a tc setting, but the proposed infra spec at https://review.openstack.org/479058 due for approval today details removing the forced linkage from gerrit's cla signing to the foundation member database15:07
cdentCan someone suggest a summit presentation topic for me? I feel like I should at least propose one, but my imagination is lacking this week due to too many inputs.15:07
fungii got talked into giving a 101 intro to free software licensing and what it means for openstack15:08
smcginniscdent: I'm in the same boat.15:08
johnthetubaguycdent: follow up on the TC vision session from last time?15:08
EmilienMcdent: I have a lot of topics in mind, like 101 things to welcome new contributors15:08
johnthetubaguysmcginnis, cdent I was thinking along similar lines myself15:09
cdenti would think vision stuff would be more forum oriented?15:09
johnthetubaguytrue15:10
fungifor the tc vision, yeah that seems more forumish15:10
johnthetubaguyI was really thinking more are hello world this is how far we got, like at boston15:10
fungiwhen we move on to a whole openstack project/community vision, then a summit presentation may make more sense15:10
johnthetubaguyfungi: very true15:11
fungialso hopefully we'll have a little more experience with this vision thing we can draw on by then15:11
smcginnisCould do a TC panel Q&A type discussion. Could be a good way to get community/user interaction. Not that I would really want to do that though. :)15:12
smcginnisOr dunk tanks.15:12
cdent+115:12
fungiyeah, we could label it as a dunk tank but have it really just be a panel. bait and switch15:13
smcginnis;)15:13
cdentI think we need to do more stuff to get a larger portion of the community hating us (for what we do rather than what we don’t do) before we start having panels.15:13
fungithough some people might bring their own baseballs, so maybe that's a terrible idea15:13
smcginnisRotten tomatos.15:13
fungithey already bring those to my talks anyway15:13
smcginnisHah!15:14
johnthetubaguycdent: actually a hey, this is what the TC has been up to since the last summit talk?15:14
fungi"here are the things we've done recently you can hate us for"15:15
cdenthave we done enough to warrant a full talk?15:15
johnthetubaguyheh15:15
johnthetubaguycdent: once you described what the TC is, it might be a full talk15:15
johnthetubaguycdent: or maybe, lets hope we have done enough by then?15:15
cdent:)15:16
smcginnisCould talk about the release goals and how that's going I suppose.15:16
johnthetubaguyyeah, that has to be in there in some form15:16
johnthetubaguyand the top 5 most wanted stuff, etc15:16
smcginnisAnd give a little background for each, like why moving to py35 is important.15:16
cdentyeah, the goal stuff and the top 5 stuff has measurable impact people, I’m not sure about other things (at least not directly)15:17
funginot a terrible idea... i mean the goals stuff so far hasn't been particularly user-facing so improving visibility across the community for why these things matter could help15:18
fungi"why you should care"15:18
smcginnisNot that I'm really looking for it, but if anyone wants to propose a talk on any of that and needs/wants a copresenter, I'd be willing to help out.15:22
cdentsince I pretty much have to be there anyway, I may forego a presentation because not having to think about one in Boston made it a lot easier to concentrate on the forum sessions in a useful way.15:26
dimso/15:26
smcginniscdent: That's pretty much the way I've been leaning as well.15:27
johnthetubaguycdent: if anyone works out how to limit the distraction from speaking during the forum I would love to know what they do, lots of up front prep helps, but still it seems to hurt15:28
fungiit's only mildly less of a distraction than trying to give conference talks during the design summit was15:34
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/governance master: Describe what upstream support means  https://review.openstack.org/44060115:51
johnthetubaguydhellmann cdent: thanks for your good comments, attempted to fix those things in the updated revision15:52
ttxJust sent the TC status report15:52
cdentwill look again soon johnthetubaguy15:52
ttxsince I won't be around tomorrow15:52
* cdent has day confusion15:52
openstackgerritIan Y. Choi proposed openstack/governance master: Refresh I18n ATC list  https://review.openstack.org/48345215:53
ttxOh yes, today is the ATC deadline ^15:54
* cdent adds “brilliant summarizer” to cv15:57
fungiright, i had started to comb through open governance changes checking for extra-atcs additions16:00
EmilienMsmcginnis, johnthetubaguy: +1 to the ideas of presenting why we're doing these goals and most wanted stuffs16:01
fungisince i need to send some contributor dicsounts for ptg registration next week, having the extra atcs nailed down will help16:01
smcginnisEmilienM: I suppose I probably should submit something, as much as I'd rather just not. :)16:05
EmilienMsmcginnis: do you plan to come in Sidney?16:05
smcginnisAnyone want to be a co-presenter? I think breaking it up into 2-3 would probably be good.16:05
smcginnisEmilienM: Yep, I will be there.16:05
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fungii just got a back-channel note from the summit organizers that they're particularly in need of submissions for the "community and leadership" track16:50
fungiseems topical to the earlier discussion16:51
fungii expect there are at least a few people in here with things to say about our community and leadership16:51
dimsfungi : good point, smcginnis count me in16:53
smcginnisdims: Great!16:54
smcginnisAnyone else want to co-present?16:54
smcginnisI suppose we can always add on later, but I'll wait a little before submitting something.16:55
fungii can stand in if you need warm bodies with opinions, but am trying not to oversubscribe myself16:55
smcginnisfungi: Should I put you down in the submission? :)16:56
fungismcginnis: nah, it's not like i need the speaker credit. i'll be there anyway (they don't let me skip these things)16:56
cdentsmcginnis: if you want someone, I’m happy to oblige16:57
smcginnisfungi: Sounds good.16:57
cdentif for some reason 3 is better than 216:58
smcginniscdent: OK, great. Thanks!16:58
smcginniscdent: Yeah, not sure it really makes a difference, but thinking it might look good with a few TC members representing.16:58
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cdentsmcginnis: presentation info looks good, thanks for making that go19:00
cdentand now I must retire19:00
* cdent takes back G&T glass from EmilienM 19:00
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EmilienMlol19:01
EmilienMhe's smart.19:01
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fungig&t is awesome mainly because of how the quinine fluoresces under uv. i have a set of highball glasses shaped like toxic waste barrels and used to use them to drink g&t under blacklight (though it's going to be a while before i regain a taste for juniper berries i think)20:53
fungiit's a really pretty reaction anyway... glows an eerie pale blue20:54
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fungihttp://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html lives21:13
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/governance master: Remove nonexistent deb-mistral-dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/48357721:52
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