Wednesday, 2021-07-28

opendevreviewMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: wip: Cluster assisted Storage Policy Migration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/17358000:04
seongsoochoCongratulation to release  2.28.0  !02:21
opendevreviewMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: WIP: Trace: Add the ability to store in swift  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/79820906:04
opendevreviewMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: WIP: trace: add basic HMAC trac_sig signature  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/79823806:04
opendevreviewMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: WIP: trace: Add some extra tracing to middlewares  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/80016406:04
acolestimburke: nice work getting 2.28.0 done :)09:21
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opendevreviewTim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: diskfile: Stop raising ENOENT when we race to mark durable  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/80276818:22
opendevreviewTim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: diskfile: Stop raising ENOENT when we race to mark durable  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/80276820:22
timburke_almost meeting time!20:55
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kotagood morning20:56
kotahmm21:00
kotait looks like Swift 2.28.0 is out, great. No info for meeting.21:01
timburke#startmeeting swift21:01
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Jul 28 21:01:34 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'21:01
timburkesorry i'm a little late to get started21:01
timburkewho's here for the swift meeting?21:01
kotatimburke: no worries21:01
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mattolivero/21:03
zaitcevo721:03
timburke#topic 2.28.0 release21:03
timburkeas kota just pointed out, we've got a new release!21:04
mattoliver\o/21:04
timburkethere's a lot of great stuff in there; a ton of bug fixes21:04
timburkebest swift yet :-)21:04
timburkei should probably poke tdasilva about getting a versioned tag at https://hub.docker.com/r/openstackswift/saio/tags 🤔21:06
timburkei think it's still a manual process atm21:06
mattoliverYeah, would be cool to add it to the release pipeline21:08
timburkefwiw, we should be planning on a final xena release around mid-september, so if there's anything you'd really like to get into this cycle, that's the target21:08
mattoliverKk21:09
timburkemattoliver, agreed -- i ought to get more familiar with the various zuul pipelines...21:09
timburke#topic PTG21:10
timburkethis is actually why i was running behind -- i've at least done half of the team signup, but i still need to reserve some meeting times21:10
claygo/21:11
timburketurns out, we're all over the place and scheduling is hard!21:11
mattoliverLol, yup21:11
claygit used to be easier because we'd like all fly on airplanes to get in the same timezone so we could collaborate more effectively - now we just sit at home... alone... forever...21:11
claygmaybe in 2030 after the vaccine for the zeta variant!!! 🤞21:12
mattoliver:(21:12
timburkeclayg and mattoliver if you don't mind, respond on https://doodle.com/poll/a5fx9zy7s3bu72da -- i'll do what i can21:12
clayg😝21:13
mattoliverOh yeah of course, sorry will do!21:13
timburkeno worries!21:13
timburkeso far it looks like the standard meeting time is the one most likely to get us everyone at once, but it's only an hour window each day :-/21:13
timburkeit's hard to get a good sized block21:14
timburkeand one more reminder about the call for topics at21:14
timburke#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/swift-ptg-yoga21:14
timburkethat's all i've got21:15
timburke(sorry, i've been rather distracted lately, so it's been harder than usual for me to keep tabs on things. but the good news is that i've now got a new house!)21:16
timburke#topic open discussion21:16
timburkewhat else should we bring up this week?21:16
timburkezaitcev, sorry, i haven't gotten around to rebasing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/787656 (dark-data: Work with sharded containers) yet21:17
mattoliverYeah, moving house is distracting, I know, me too!21:17
zaitcevtimburke: I thought I was going to rebase it. I was busy with the S-RBAC unfortunatley.21:19
mattoliverI was chatting to someone re reconstructor and knowing when I cycle was up on the mailing list, which made me blow the dust off https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/54114121:19
timburkezaitcev, no worries! i saw https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/802138 come across, though i haven't looked at it yet -- i'm guessing that's related?21:20
zaitcevtimburke: Yes, that's it.21:21
timburkemattoliver, i also saw that you've been doing a lot of stuff with request tracing -- how are you feeling about that so far? do we have a sense of how much overhead the changes might have when you *aren't* actively tracing a request? i think there's like an extra function call per middleware, is that right?21:21
mattoliverAnd have planned a meeting with nvidias sre guys today to see if sres think my req tracing idea (and patchset) is useful for just crazy. 21:21
timburke👍 always a good group to get in touch with. which reminds me, i ought to set up an ops feedback session again and be sure to invite them21:22
mattoliverYes and no, there is a conditional. And short circuits to no tracing. But there are calls (if we want extra info) which should basically be a conditional noop if not tracing. 21:23
mattoliverSo I think minimal.. but really need to test. 21:23
mattoliverStarted out as micro benchmarking timings between middleware. But feels like it could be more useful. 21:24
mattoliverLike I dump the error limited nodes from the proxy it visits which would be nice to know, otherwise the only way to find out is via debug level logging.21:25
mattoliverMaybe a good topic for ptg ;)21:27
clayg💡21:28
timburkenice -- yeah, it seems like the sort of thing where we might be able to come up with some interesting visualizations if we had the underlying data more readily available21:28
timburkelooks like the other thread of work that's seen some iteration this week has been shard-aware reconciler, which had us dusting off policy migration21:28
zaitcevBTW21:31
zaitcevThe URL for PTG is 404  http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html21:31
zaitcevredirects to https://www.mousehuntgame.com/errors/40x.html21:32
zaitcevI sense a security issue. I saw these redirects before when someone cracked my blog.21:32
zaitcevSo21:32
zaitcevmaybe my Firefox is cracked21:32
zaitcevor worse, my laptop OS is21:32
zaitcevor hopefully it's just the Etherpad21:32
timburkehuh. i'm getting a connection timeout. strange21:33
zaitcevI'm looking at https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/swift-ptg-yoga with a Web Inspector in Firefox21:34
mattoliverMine went to the same thing on my phone. 21:34
mattoliverOh when I went to ptg.os.org/ptg.html21:34
zaitcevOK. So at least my laptop is not compromised. Whew.21:35
timburkewell, i'll take the link off the etherpad until it's resolved21:35
timburkeall right -- anything else to bring up?21:35
zaitcevWell21:36
zaitcevMinIO21:36
zaitcevLooks very amusing.21:36
zaitcevI started with their strange marketing, like this: https://zaitcev.livejournal.com/262821.html21:37
timburkei've still not had a chance to dig into it much. i seem to remember it seeming... a bit rigid21:37
zaitcevYeah.21:37
zaitcevThat seems like an amazingly adept one-word description.21:38
zaitcevI wish we could call Swift "elegant" or something.21:38
timburkeall right, i'm gonna call it21:40
timburkethank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift!21:40
timburke#endmeeting21:40
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zaitcevI'll get back to reviewing, I promise. Just need to extricate myself from S-RBAC. It got this strange priority in the management.21:41
mattoliverzaitcev: it happens, they do pay the money. 21:43

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