Tuesday, 2018-03-13

openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Fix up probetests check on feature/deep  https://review.openstack.org/55029100:02
kei-ichisorry this is caused by my lower level of English...00:03
kei-ichiI think this is "my" misunderstanding..(and I could not express what I want to say) Once abandoned these.00:03
kei-ichiI don't want to make swift team in trouble, so if it is better not to locate project under swift, so is it better to create this as kind of top level project ?00:04
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kei-ichi(like you told me about https://github.com/openstack/liberasurecode .)00:04
kei-ichi> I don't want to make swift team in trouble, so if it is better not to locate project under swift, so is it better to create this as kind of top level project ?00:05
kei-ichisorry I made mistake in sending message ...00:05
kei-ichiI don't want to make swift team in trouble, so is it better not to locate project under swift ?00:06
kei-ichiI think that is okay, so I'll fix my patch.00:10
kei-ichiSorry for your incovenience and my misunderstanding..00:10
notmynamekei-ichi: I do not think you made a very big mistake at all, and you do not need to worry about getting the swift team in trouble00:14
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notmynameplacing slogging under the swift umbrella will work just fine, but it will add extra work for both you and me (and others). however if you have it as a separate project, like storlets or liberasurecode, then you will be able to have more control over what happens in the slogging project00:15
notmynamekota_ did this with both storlets and liberasurecode, so he should be able to help you (and in Japanese, if that helps)00:16
notmynameeven if you add slogging as a separate project, you are welcome to use this IRC channel for discussing patches and asking questions00:17
notmynameI'm suggesting that you add slogging as a separate project so that you will be able to have a separate group of core reviewers to land patches. you will not have to wait for swift-core to review patches, and you will not have to wait on me as the swift ptl to do a release00:18
notmynamekei-ichi: I need to travel home now, but feel free to keep asking questions. maybe someone else can answer, or I will see them later when I'm online again00:19
kei-ichiThank you for warm and kind advise for me!00:20
kei-ichi(I didn't kono liberasurecode and storlets is done by kota_ )00:21
kei-ichinotmyname I think I can mange this ! I'll try, thanks!00:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift feature/deep: Add EXPANDING state to ShardRange  https://review.openstack.org/55133100:43
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kota_good morning01:23
mattoliveraukota_: morning01:23
kota_timburke: good work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552174/. one question, is it able to port to other in-process func tests?01:24
patchbotpatch 552174 - swift - Capture probe test logs01:24
kota_my try is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/548226/ that uses another way from yours but your way looks smarter than mime.01:25
patchbotpatch 548226 - swift - Pull execution logs of functests01:25
kota_mattoliverau: o/01:25
kota_oh mattoliverau. do you have a chance to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551956/ ?01:26
patchbotpatch 551956 - python-swiftclient - Add force auth retry mode in swiftclient01:26
kota_that is for a client issue when using sort of reverse proxy or load balancer.01:27
kota_I'm sure it's NOT complete fix but it can mitigate the issue until fixing everything...01:27
* kota_ is reading the back log... kei-ichi looks doing something...01:28
kei-ichikota_ good morning o/01:29
kota_kei-ichi: o/01:29
kei-ichiI'm now try to create top-level project for slogging according to swift member's advice.01:29
kei-ichiI'm now try to create top-level project for slogging according to swift member's advice.01:29
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kota_kei-ichi: got it. it's the reason why you abandon the first proposed patch set.01:30
kei-ichiThe patch is for setting slogging under swift, so abandoned for resetting state.01:31
kei-ichiBut I think the way to send patch is not so different.01:32
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kota_okay01:33
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift master: Try to set post logs in func tests  https://review.openstack.org/55224001:47
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift master: Try to set post logs in func tests, too  https://review.openstack.org/55224002:27
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mattoliveraukota_: looks good, want to test, but there also seems to be a missing link in the commit message. number [4].03:23
kota_oh that was missing!? sorry.03:23
kota_let me check.03:23
kota_oh03:24
kota_[4] should be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69187/03:25
patchbotpatch 69187 - python-swiftclient - Port to python-requests (MERGED)03:25
kota_mattoliverau: thx! I'll update soon03:25
openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Add force auth retry mode in swiftclient  https://review.openstack.org/55195603:30
kota_mattoliverau: ;)03:31
mattoliveraucool03:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift master: Optionally drop common prefixes in swift-*-info output  https://review.openstack.org/34226703:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift master: Capture probe test logs  https://review.openstack.org/55217403:39
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kei-ichiI re-sent the review request to openstack-infra/project-config as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552282/ .04:48
patchbotpatch 552282 - openstack-infra/project-config - Add slogging projects04:48
kei-ichiNow slogging is defined as separated project from swift.04:48
kei-ichiLet me add as review of this. notmyname mattoliverau kota_ . If you have comments please let me know again.04:48
kei-ichiThank you for your advise! o/04:49
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kota_kei-ich: i think you can maintain the slogging-core team via gerrit's Web UI but not sure who are included in default in the list. probably ask at #openstack-infra channel is good way to make sure it.05:10
kota_unfortunately every project i can see was created by another person.05:11
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift master: Try to set post logs in func tests, too  https://review.openstack.org/55224005:19
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kei-ichiI heard from kazsh about that point. infra-team just create this group so I need to contact to infra-team to add myself as a member of this.05:22
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kota_kei-ichi: good to know. sounds reasonable.05:35
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openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: py3: port cli form_signature and unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/55231506:50
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mattoliverau^ that was an easy one. HMAC function in py3 expects binary strings. After that it just works.. though it's probably one of the most basic scripts we have :)06:54
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kota_hmmm... I don't know why zuul doesn't like me to do post.yaml script with become: true even the master timburke wrote can be run in the gerrit.07:06
kota_omg, centos environ for probe is under ansible 2.3.3 so that at least the import_playbook won't work anyway.07:21
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kota_my 4th attempt to get functional test logs...07:27
kota_i really want the stuff in the master because sometimes s3api can fail with the gate but not in my local :/07:27
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873607:34
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openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed openstack/swift master: Fix tests using O_TMPFILE  https://review.openstack.org/55209308:39
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acolesgood morning09:16
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arunmantimburke: I'm trying to find a way on how to delete the files under /srv/node/partition1/objects/*. We've hit an issue where we run out of inodes and not able to store any new objects. I tried to check if container-reconciler is cleaning this up based on the reclaim_age property. Looks like it's not. Wanted to check if there's something that I could be missing!09:51
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Rename dummy_shard_range to own_shard_range  https://review.openstack.org/55247210:37
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openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed openstack/swift master: Fix tests using O_TMPFILE  https://review.openstack.org/55209311:04
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openstackgerritOndřej Nový proposed openstack/swift master: Fix tests using O_TMPFILE  https://review.openstack.org/55209312:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift feature/deep: Rename dummy_shard_range to own_shard_range  https://review.openstack.org/55247213:32
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DHEkinda crazy question. has anybody tried swift on top of ZFS? either in a RAID configuration or not...13:42
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zigonotmyname: timburke: My patch passes zuul tests: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552093/14:37
patchbotpatch 552093 - swift - Fix tests using O_TMPFILE14:37
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openstackgerritAlexandre Lécuyer proposed openstack/swift master: Add optional parameters to common/utils fallocate()  https://review.openstack.org/54803414:53
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root_743hello, is there any way to rebuild my rings? all my data got quarantined because we added swift_hash_path_prefix after some objects where already in place and now I had to delete that parameter but still no luck with the data, I tried to move the objects from /srv/node/d1/quarantined/objects to /srv/node/d1/objects but nothing :(15:29
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notmynameDHE: yes, swift on ZFS has been tried, but it's been a while. IIRC last time it was tried, ZFS performance wasn't as good as XFS, especially as the drive fills up (inodes more than bytes)15:55
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timburkekota_: good question -- i'm not sure. i did it that way because of how the probe test job sets up its logging. in particular, it grabs https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/doc/saio/rsyslog.d/10-swift.conf16:18
arunmantimburke: Any thoughts on my query above? Not sure if you missed it!16:26
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timburkearunman: i *had* missed it! i'm maybe not the best for fielding out-of-inodes questions (torgomatic or clayg might be better) but i wouldn't expect the container-reconciler to do much to clean up reclaimable tombstones -- woulda thought the object-replicator/reconstructor (or even object-auditor) would be more the place for it16:36
arunmanah.. sure timburke16:38
arunmantorgomatic, clayg : do you have any suggestions on handling inodes related issues from my query above?16:40
timburkefwiw, https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/2.17.0/swift/obj/diskfile.py#L1002-L1034 does the cleaning up...16:40
notmynameout of inodes is hard. you want to delete stuff, obviously, but a delete in swift *creates* a new file (and thus an inode). replication processes are what clean up data and move it off of a drive, if necessary16:42
arunmanok. i thought it's the container-reconciler that will take care of it.16:44
arunmanso in this case, i assume the reclaim_age value is getting picked up from *container-replicator* section in container-server.conf file16:44
arunmanis my understanding correct?16:45
notmynamethe container reconciler detects when a container has been created with 2 different storage policies and it reconciles any objects in the 2 copies and puts them all in the correct storage policy16:45
arunmanalright16:46
notmynamearunman: yes. the reclaim age is used to determine when deleted data is removed from the drives. but are you just looking at container data? are the full drives only in the container rings?16:46
arunmanmy issue is with the objects data. i don't see this issue with container data16:48
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notmynameok. then take all that stuff about reclaim age and replicators and s/container/object :-)16:48
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notmynameis your object data in a replicated policy or erasure coded policy?16:49
notmynamehow many drives in your cluster are full? how many have available space?16:49
DHEnotmyname: interesting.. I was hoping ZFS performance could offer advantages like no need for an object auditor, and of course compression16:51
arunmannotmyname: I'm sorry... but, I don't think we have configured any of the policies that you are referring to. This is a basic all in one setup with a  single drive config.16:51
notmynameDHE: compression is very dependent on what sort of data you're storing. if you're doing videos, pics, or backups (3 very very common swift use cases), then compression will hurt rather than help. the data's already compressed16:52
DHEyes I know... and ZFS does have algorithms which are intended to set and forget...16:53
notmynameDHE: the lack of auditing is nice, of course, but the real issue that I remember being reported is actually arunman's current one. if you take a zfs volume and fill it up (inode-wise) with a bunch of small files, what happens? when does it break. what I remember is that zfs breaks way before xfs16:53
arunmannotmyname: now it turns out that my understanding about reconciler is wrong and i need to check further based on your suggestion about reclaim age and replicators16:54
notmynamearunman: all policies are either using replication or erasure coding. so if I understand what you're saying, you've got one machine with one drive?16:54
arunmanyep.. that's right16:54
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notmynameand your rings are set up with a single replica then?16:55
arunmanyes16:55
DHEnotmyname: ZFS breaks when it gets space full because the free space allocator ends up spending lots of time hunting for free space. in terms of inodes, ZFS has no fixed inode allocations. if you run out of inodes, it's because you're full anyway.16:55
notmynameso in your case, there's absolutely nothing that the replicator (or reconciler) processes can even do. you've got one replica of everything and in only one place16:55
notmynamearunman: just curious, but with that sort of setup you don't have any durability or availablity guarantees. why are you using swift instead of simply writing directly to your one hard drive?16:56
notmynameDHE: ah ok. like I said, it's been a while since I've looked at it. how does zfs handle xattrs? are there any limits?16:57
notmynameeg ext supports xattrs that fit in one inode (ie block). xfs supports more than that16:58
DHEthere are no practical limits. small xattrs can be stored in the inode itself if they fit and the feature is enabled, otherwise a sort of "xattr inode" is allocated for the file16:58
notmynamecool16:58
DHEfrom what I read xfs does something similar16:58
arunmannotmyname: we had set this up to store vm's metadata to handle certain use cases and this metadata is a bare minimal data. that's the reason we decided to do it this way so that this can be read from compute services by talking to swift.17:02
arunmanwith what you say, looks like i may have to revisit the current configuration17:03
notmynamearunman: ok. like I said, just curious.17:04
notmynamearunman: the simplest thing to "our cluster is out of space" is to add more hard drives. in your case, adding a few and going to at least 2 replicas would end up giving you a lot of benefit (durability, extra space, availability when hardware fails)17:06
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arunmannotmyname: sure. i'll check that out17:10
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notmynametdasilva: when I do something like `yum install epel-release` is it actually installing anything? or `yum install centos-release-openstack-queens`17:31
notmynameI'm looking for the equivalent of `apt-add-repository`17:32
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Merge remote-tracking branch 'gerrit/master' into feature/deep  https://review.openstack.org/55264417:58
tdasilvanotmyname: sorry, stuck in meetings...don't know apt-add-repository, but it sounds exactly like the same thing...18:04
tdasilvayum install epel-release is just setting up the epel repo18:04
notmynameok18:04
notmynamebut it's the same command as installing some package right?18:05
notmynamethat's what's confusing18:05
notmyname(to me)18:05
notmynamecurrent struggle is that `yum install python-pip` works, but then `pip install ...` doesn't (pip:command not found)18:05
tdasilvayeah, you need to do `yum install python-pip` first before using pip itself...18:06
notmynametdasilva: you're not making fun of me, are you?18:08
notmyname;-)18:08
tdasilvalol18:08
notmynameI mean, yes, I get that I need to install it before using it18:09
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tdasilvaoh, you are saying that after install python-pip you are not able to run pip?18:09
tdasilvathat would be weird18:09
notmynamehttps://gist.github.com/notmyname/53a2e559b50ad76f74822af2ad75406418:10
tdasilvaone sec18:12
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tdasilvanotmyname: trying to run your example here...18:23
notmynameI fully expect that I'm missing something basic18:23
tdasilvanotmyname: do you need to install from source? can't install rdo's swift?18:24
notmynamethat's correct18:24
notmynametdasilva: FWIW, here's my full (current) dockerfile https://gist.github.com/notmyname/d200071e6338794d7cc39fd3972713a918:24
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tdasilvanotmyname: this worked for me: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/0sZ5nVVwd6~wyzV~GTeTZw18:35
notmynameok, thanks. I'll tray that18:35
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openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift master: Don't double-filter replication jobs  https://review.openstack.org/55100518:47
openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift master: Remove object replicator's lockup detector/mitigator.  https://review.openstack.org/55265918:47
claygswift/playbooks !?18:48
tdasilvaansible everything!18:48
tdasilvaand according to notmyname use that to deploy in containers18:49
tdasilvajust missing k8s18:49
claygblockchain18:49
notmynamedockerchain.ai18:50
tdasilvaheh, need to work that in there ;)18:50
notmyname(unfortunately taken)18:50
tdasilvabut talking about blockchain, saw this yesterday: https://storj.io18:50
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notmynameis `lsb_release` a thing on rhel distros?18:55
notmynamehmm.. yes it is. but "Unable to execute lsb_release. Is it installed?"18:58
notmynameI need to install swift dependencies. to do that I need bindep. to do that I need pip. to do that I need easy_install. to run bindep I need lsb_release. I guess to get bindep's dependencies I need ... bindep? I dunno18:59
notmynamehave I ever mentioned that computers are terrible?18:59
tdasilvalol18:59
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tdasilvayou might need to install redhat-lsb ??19:00
notmynameyeah, that's what google just told me :/19:00
tdasilvahttps://github.com/thiagodasilva/ansible-saio/blob/master/roles/pre_config/tasks/main.yml19:00
notmyname-lsb-core actually19:00
notmynameyeah, I think that's what should be in the playbook in the swift repo, TBH19:01
notmynameI should install git, checkout swift, install ansible, and run the playbooks in swift. done19:01
notmynameideally doing some self-discovery with bindep.txt and requirements.txt19:02
tdasilvanotmyname: lost you...fwiw, my understanding is that infra already takes care of doing the git checkout and bindep installation19:03
tdasilvabut this is for gate jobs...19:03
notmynameyeah, I want to be able to take the repo and set it up without relying on -infra bootstrapping19:03
notmynameI'm not doing this for gate jobs19:03
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notmynamemaybe eventually what I'm doing will be incorporated into some gates. actually, that's the plan. but it needs to run on my dev box19:04
tdasilvaright...understood....for the playbooks in the swift repo, i started with https://github.com/thiagodasilva/ansible-saio/blob/master/roles/pre_config/tasks/main.yml and then realized that they do a bunch of bootstrapping so i just started removing things19:04
notmynameyeah, what you did makes sense, and I love it19:04
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tdasilvaso you want to run swift in a container with 1 replica?19:05
notmynamein my current case, I need to test a third-party thing that depends on a swift endpoint being available. it's currently doing this with a docker container, but there's a lot of hard-coding of stuff in it. I'm updating it to use whatever's current in swift, dynamically19:07
notmynameso it's part of some CI testing19:07
tdasilvagot it19:07
notmynameand I do want to use the new zuul v3 third-party stuff to put it into our check queues19:07
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notmynamemore success, so far!19:11
notmynamebut this is wierd: "Error mounting /mnt/sdb1: mount: /srv/swift-disk: failed to setup loop device: No such file or directory\n"19:15
openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Use state rather than subtlety to make shards of shards authoritative  https://review.openstack.org/55135619:25
openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Root leader decides when shard containers shard  https://review.openstack.org/55212019:25
openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Store epoch and root container in shard ranges table  https://review.openstack.org/55266819:25
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Remove unnecessary timestamp shenanigans when creating shard container  https://review.openstack.org/55213319:27
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tdasilvanotmyname: can you share your latest Dockerbuild?20:06
tdasilvaalthough it sounds like you are running into a problem with the ansible playbook20:07
notmynameright. the dockerfile isn't really too different than what you saw (I just added a WORKDIR instead of RUN cd ... &&)20:08
notmynamemy emergency valve is to rewrite the upstream playbooks to separate out the drive creation (and then not call it in my dockerfile)20:08
notmynamebut I'm hoping not to have to do that20:09
notmynamesurely there must be a way to enable a docker container to do a loopback mount on a local file20:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/pyeclib master: Switch from pep8 to flake8 for linting  https://review.openstack.org/46230420:15
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claygnotmyname: i don't think you can do the loopback in the container - that's the kernel's business :\22:14
claygyou can expose a loopback *to* the container?22:15
openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Fix up probetests check on feature/deep  https://review.openstack.org/55029122:28
openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift master: Augment object-expirer's StatsD buckets.  https://review.openstack.org/53801622:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift feature/deep: Merge remote-tracking branch 'gerrit/master' into feature/deep  https://review.openstack.org/55264422:35
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Fix up probetests check on feature/deep  https://review.openstack.org/55029123:14
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Fix up probetests check on feature/deep  https://review.openstack.org/55029123:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift master: Don't double-filter replication jobs  https://review.openstack.org/55100523:55
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