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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925000:06
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873600:08
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Let clients request heartbeats during SLO PUTs  https://review.openstack.org/50930600:37
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: timburke: clayg: Are you here now? I want to discuss remaining topics (#3 and #4) in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points01:17
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925001:22
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873601:24
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925001:41
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873601:43
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openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: Make max_ranges configurable  https://review.openstack.org/49341802:44
mattoliverautimburke: ^^ theres a new approach that is much cleaner.02:45
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openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: Get timestamp refactor in controller base  https://review.openstack.org/51489903:11
mattoliverautdasilva: ^ thats just a follow up to do a little refactor from patch 37115003:12
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/371150/ - swift - Return 404 on a GET if tombstone is newer03:12
mattoliveraufeel free to squish it in if you want.03:12
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Chaos_Was wondering if anyone could help me with an issue I've been having with the swift client. I keep getting a ('Connection aborted.', error(32, 'Broken pipe')) error when uploading03:18
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zaitcevHonestly I would suspect a proxy. Swift itself is not likely to just reset like that - unless there's a crash, which should be in logs.03:56
Chaos_does swift client even store logs? I can't find anything and it doesn't show any additional in std. out03:59
zaitcevWhat does it have to do with the client?04:00
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Chaos_you said in the logs, i figured that's what you're talking about?04:09
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925004:40
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873604:42
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Chaos_@zaitcev04:46
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openstackgerritHCLTech-SSW proposed openstack/swift master: Add ability to undelete an account.  https://review.openstack.org/50780805:17
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openstackgerritHCLTech-SSW proposed openstack/swift master: Add ability to undelete an account.  https://review.openstack.org/50780807:58
acolesgood morning08:05
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openstackgerritjunbo.li proposed openstack/swift master: Make StringIO py3 compatible  https://review.openstack.org/51496208:59
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openstackgerritHCLTech-SSW proposed openstack/swift master: Added the man page for container-reconciler.conf  https://review.openstack.org/51501810:25
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: timburke: clayg: Are you here now? I want to discuss remaining topics (#3 and #4) in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points10:51
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kallenphello, please, is exist any Web GUI for managing OpenStack Swift storage ? ….create new accounts, tenants, etc. ?11:12
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kallenpAny idea ?13:22
kallenpsu -s /bin/sh -c "keystone-manage db_sync" keystone13:22
kallenp(pymysql.err.InternalError) (1071, u'Specified key was too long; max key length is 767 bytes')13:22
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kallenpsorry solved: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/91592/mitaka-on-1604-xenial-and-mysqls-new-default-utf8mb4-charset/13:29
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: timburke: clayg: Are you here now? I want to discuss symlink's remaining topics (#3 and #4) in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points14:04
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notmynamegood morning14:24
m_kazuhironotmyname: good morning14:35
tdasilvam_kazuhiro: hello14:39
tdasilvam_kazuhiro: it's super late for you14:39
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: Hello! Yes it's late for me. But I want to discuss.14:39
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: Can we discuss remaining topics on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points ?14:44
m_kazuhiro^ now?14:45
tdasilvam_kazuhiro: sure, what's up?14:45
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: Thanks. There are 2 topics. First one is about query string for copy symlink. Please watch #3 of the etherpad page.14:46
m_kazuhirotdasilva: kota_ says that "PUT /a/c/dest?symlink=get with X-Copy-From: /a/c/symlink" looks weird.14:48
m_kazuhirotdasilva: So I want to some community members' opinion about whether the copy query style is weird or not.14:49
m_kazuhirotdasilva: How do you think about that?14:50
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tdasilvam_kazuhiro: reading the etherpad there, I think API 1 is fine, keep it as is, which is similar to what SLO does today14:50
m_kazuhirotdasilva: OK. My opinion is same one. And API will have simple implementation.14:53
m_kazuhiros/API/API 1/14:53
m_kazuhirotdasilva: Then I want to discuss next topic.14:54
tdasilvam_kazuhiro: ok, then for topic #4, I'm not an expert in CORS, but if I understand the problem correctly, I think the current implementation is also fine because we document that the OPTIONS request will respond with options for the symlink object itself and not its target14:54
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tdasilvamaybe we can just add that users should send an OPTIONS request to the target itself to get the correct response they are waiting for14:55
m_kazuhirotdasilva: In my understanding, if client doesn't know the object is symlink and client receive 4xx error by target object's ACL, client cannot get target path. correct?14:57
m_kazuhirotdasilva: Clients expect they will not get 4xx error by ACL when following CORS information. Because CORS information will be follow ACL settings.14:59
m_kazuhirotdasilva: Is my understanding correct?15:00
tdasilvam_kazuhiro: in a way, but maybe we can change the concept of 'if client doesn't know the object is symlink'15:01
m_kazuhirotdasilva: What do you mean by that?15:03
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tdasilvawe put content_location header in the GET  responses, so i'm wondering if we could do something similar for OPTIONS req15:04
tdasilvait's just an idea15:04
m_kazuhirotdasilva: Umm... according to https://docs.openstack.org/swift/latest/cors.html CORS will be send by browsers. So I think our approach should be handled by browsers.15:07
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: If symlink middleware send "307 temporary redirected" when GET/HEAD request to symlink without "symlink=get" with "Origin" header (= CORS information), browser will handle the response. Because "Location" header in 307 response is defined in rfc.15:10
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: How about that?15:12
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tdasilvam_kazuhiro: not sure, tbh15:18
tdasilvai think timburke, clayg might know more and provide better input15:19
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m_kazuhirotdasilva: OK. Then, Today's swift meeting will be good place to discuss this topic.15:21
tdasilvam_kazuhiro: yes, i believe so15:22
notmynametdasilva: m_kazuhiro: one of you please update the meeting agenda wiki as appropriate15:23
m_kazuhironotmyname: OK. I will update agenda.15:23
m_kazuhiroAgenda is updated.15:28
m_kazuhirotdasilva: Thank you for discussion!15:28
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timburkegood morning16:02
timburkem_kazuhiro: i agree with tdasilva on #3. still thinking about #416:07
timburkepart of the delay is that i'm not super familiar with CORS16:08
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openstackgerritKazuhiro MIYAHARA proposed openstack/swift master: Symlink implementation.  https://review.openstack.org/23216216:56
timburkeok, i think i'm landing on "keep the current behavior". that is, respect the CORS settings for whatever the request path is, don't try to follow the symlink and find out what the CORS settings are for the source container. as long as we're preserving auth contexts, i don't think that should present any problems16:57
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rledisezhi all. i probably won't be available for the meeting tonight. i was very interested in the SPDK topic, but i read on openstack-dev@ that the initiator of the subject might not available too, so hopefully i won't miss a lot…17:10
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Let clients request heartbeats during SLO PUTs  https://review.openstack.org/50930617:11
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tdasilvarledisez: I thought peluse was going to try to make it to the meeting one of these days...not sure if it is today thou17:12
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m_kazuhirotimburke: Thank you for your opinion and adding comment to the etherpad page! I will read your opinion after.17:20
m_kazuhiroGood night.17:20
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notmynameyeah, I think peluse was going to try and show up today. if so, we'll talk about spdk. if not, we'll delay until later17:25
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peluseya, today17:40
peluserledisez, I'll sorta be introducing SPDK in general and throwing a few ideas out wrt possible collab point, answering questions etc. The specific proposal that you saw on the mail list is from someone else, Wewe, who may not be able to attend but I can cover that at a high level.  There are, of course, lots and lots of details :)17:42
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notmynamepeluse: it will be very good to involve OVH ( rledisez and alex) for spdk discussions17:46
openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: db_file passed to broker should not affect it's sharding state  https://review.openstack.org/51515017:50
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acolesmattoliverau: timburke torgomatic I broke out some of the backlog cards for implementing tests on the trello board into a new list 'Backlog -tests' to make it easier to evaluate where progress is at. hope that's not too many lists.18:25
acoleshttps://trello.com/b/z6oKKI4Q/container-sharding18:25
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pelusenotmyname, we can always chat more if there are interested parties that can't make today's meeting.  There's no hurry/deadline on any of this stuff...19:40
pelusewow, container sharding isn't done yet :)19:40
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timburkepeluse: but it's so much closer than it's ever been! ;-)19:54
peluseJK of course....nice!19:54
rledisezpeluse: change of plan, i'll be available for the meeting, can't wait to read you20:00
pelusegreat!20:00
notmynameyay :-)20:00
peluserledisez, do you have any familiarity with SPDK already?20:01
rledisezpeluse: not really. just (very) quickly read spdk.io. i'm interested to see how you think it can improve swift performances (my first thought was that there are other parts in swift that should be optimized first, latency of kernel/vfs/… stack would probably not be the most problematic IMHO)20:05
rledisezbut i'm in thinking with rotational disks, maybe not the best use case ;)20:06
peluserledisez, oh for sure.  Yeah we'll chat in the meeting.  Not coming in with any global prioritized list just want to get the conversation started.  And yeah, SPDK is really only meant for SSDs20:07
pelusethere is another SPDK community member that has a specific idea but it's not to be taken as an SPDK community proposal, it's very high level right now and as a community we likely won't move on it much w/o interest from the Swift community20:08
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pelusebut its worth brainstorming about for sure :)20:08
openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: db_file passed to broker should not affect it's sharding state  https://review.openstack.org/51515020:13
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mattoliverauMorning20:57
m_kazuhiromattoliverau: morning20:58
notmynamehello21:00
notmynamemeeting time in #openstack-meeting21:00
notmynameacoles: clayg: torgomatic: timburke: meeting ping21:02
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925021:32
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873621:34
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mattoliveraunotmyname: when are you arriving in Sydney?22:02
notmynamesaturday night, I think22:02
notmynameor morning22:02
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mattoliveraurledisez: ^^ same question to you22:03
mattoliverauAnd everyone else coming :)22:03
mattoliveraunotmyname: cool, I'll arrive Friday night, I was suppose to be a mentor at the hackathon.. but that's been postponed. Might see if upstream University needs help instead now.22:04
notmynameoh it has?22:05
mattoliveraujungleboyj: ^ you involved in upstream uni this time?22:05
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mattoliveraunotmyname: according to an email I got22:05
jungleboyjmattoliverau:  Yes, in a meeting with them right now.22:05
notmynamehmm22:06
jungleboyjmattoliverau:  Why?22:06
notmynamemattoliverau: ah, i'm arriving early saturday morning. considering calling the hotel to see what accomidations can be made for early checking22:06
notmyname*check-in22:06
kota_I'll get in to Sydney at Sunday morning.22:06
kota_mattoliverau: ^^22:06
notmynamemattoliverau: or instead you could find us all something awesome to do in sydney on sunday :-)22:07
jungleboyjCome to OUI.22:07
* notmyname mumbles something about openstack foundation people liking acronyms a little too much22:08
notmynameI'm assuming you're not shouting "yes" to rledisez? ;-)22:08
* jungleboyj isn't a Foundation Person. ;-)22:08
notmynameyeah, but it's a foundation thingy you're talking about22:08
jungleboyjAh, fair enough.22:08
notmynamebah, don't mind me. I was just talking to an actual foundation person who was using a lot of acronyms too22:09
notmynameopenstack upstream institute?22:09
jungleboyjnotmyname:  Yes.22:09
notmynamedo you mean? "OUI!" ;-)22:09
jungleboyjoui, oui baguette22:09
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mattoliveraujungleboyj: yeah, just checking if you needed a swift guy again cause I'll be in town _and_ not jetlagged ;)22:11
mattoliveraunotmyname: I can take a look, depends on people22:11
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notmynamedon't feel obligated (but we'll have to find *something* to do. and you are more local than anyone else...)22:12
mattoliverauIn my experience of dealing with jetlag, you'd want to get out and walk around in the sun on the Sunday. Which will help with the jetlags22:12
jungleboyjmattoliverau:  The team says you must come!  :-)22:12
jungleboyjmattoliverau:  That is my plan for Friday.22:12
mattoliverauCircular Quay is really close, so visiting there and walking from the Bridge to the Opera house is step 1 :)22:13
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jungleboyjmattoliverau:  Sounds like a plan.22:14
mattoliverauMaybe stop at the rocks, or better jump on a ferry and head over to a beach :)22:14
jungleboyjSo, we have several people that listed their interest as 'Storage' .22:14
jungleboyjSo, if you are so inclined to come join us, that is great.22:14
mattoliverauSure, work is paying for me to come a few days early to help with a foundation event so only seems right I help with one.. even if it's not the one I originally planned.22:18
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mattoliveraunotmyname: but I'm also the Swift local so will do what I can with the other stuff too ;)22:18
notmyname:-)22:19
jungleboyjmattoliverau:  Sounds good.  Want me to add you to the Google Hangout we are using to communicate?22:19
mattoliveraujungleboyj: please, that would be great22:25
mattoliveraunotmyname: if need be you can always dump you stuff or even nap in my hotel room if you can't get in early :)22:28
notmynamemattoliverau: thanks :-)22:28
jungleboyjmattoliverau:  Can you send me your google info?22:30
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925022:43
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873622:44
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925023:12
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873623:14
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925023:16
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Chaos_Was wondering if anyone could help me with an issue I've been having with the swift client. I keep getting a ('Connection aborted.', error(32, 'Broken pipe')) error when uploading23:30
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mattoliverauChaos_: that's an interesting error. Sounds like something is dropping the connection, like a proxy somewhere. Do you have any control or access to the swift cluster? and if so is there a proxy, firewall or something that could close the connection before you get to the Swift proxies nodes? It's just that doesn't look like an error being trown from the swift cluster.23:34
Chaos_I don't have access directly to the cluster no, It's using the OVH Openstack Object Storage. Only one of my servers seem to have the issue although they "assure" me this is an issue with the swift client23:36
Chaos_I've already reimaged the machine and everything so im not sure what could be causing it23:36
Chaos_Could it be because I have to run the machine on the OVH provided kernel?23:36
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timburkei wonder how much of the upload (if any) got sent before the connection closed... does it happen with all objects? just objects over a certain size? have you tried manually doing the upload with (for example) curl?23:48
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