| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: Unit tests for container server update redirection https://review.openstack.org/507604 | 00:06 |
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| timburke | interesting problem highlighted by the failure that's about to post on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507605 -- our xfs-tmp jobs test the commit of the change, not the merge commit | 00:27 |
| patchbot | patch 507605 - swift (feature/deep) - clean up container server update redirect path | 00:27 |
| timburke | actually, it'll probably never post, because when i push up the new patchset it'll abort the long-running dsvm jobs and just skip it | 00:31 |
| timburke | but checkout http://logs.openstack.org/05/507605/1/gate/gate-swift-python27-ubuntu-xenial/b1067a1/ | 00:31 |
| timburke | and http://logs.openstack.org/05/507605/1/gate/gate-swift-tox-xfs-tmp-py27-ubuntu-xenial/5d807b0/ | 00:31 |
| timburke | one passes, one doesn't | 00:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: clean up container server update redirect path https://review.openstack.org/507605 | 00:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Stop reloading swift.common.utils in test_daemon https://review.openstack.org/506410 | 03:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: clean up container server update redirect path https://review.openstack.org/507605 | 03:58 |
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| acoles | good morning | 08:20 |
| acoles | it's bug day! | 08:20 |
| openstackgerrit | HCLTech-SSW proposed openstack/swift master: Author: [hcltech-ssw] Date: Wed Sep 27 13:56:25 2017 https://review.openstack.org/507785 | 08:28 |
| acoles | timburke: thanks for fixing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507605 | 08:30 |
| patchbot | patch 507605 - swift (feature/deep) - clean up container server update redirect path (MERGED) | 08:30 |
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| ktsuyuzaki | acoles: exactly it's bug day but sorry I have not taken time for the triage work :,( | 08:51 |
| acoles | ktsuyuzaki: in APAC you get tomorrow too :) | 08:51 |
| ktsuyuzaki | lol, it's thursday though | 08:52 |
| ktsuyuzaki | oh, my nick was changed to secondly one | 08:52 |
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| kota_ | ah, acoles, thanks for the mention on bug 1554378 that can be expired | 08:59 |
| openstack | bug 1554378 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC: Durable frag_set is reclaimable in racing condition" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1554378 | 08:59 |
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| acoles | oh yeah, I wonder if we should make it confirmed to keep it alive? | 09:00 |
| kota_ | might be, not sure for now. I must make a time to think deeply again for sure. | 09:01 |
| kota_ | I also wonder which status is suitable for the case. | 09:01 |
| kota_ | like "the bug may exist but not sure " | 09:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Force update redirect Location to be relative https://review.openstack.org/507797 | 09:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Force update redirect Location to be relative https://review.openstack.org/507797 | 09:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jens Harbott (frickler) proposed openstack/swift master: Fix functest for IPv6 endpoints https://review.openstack.org/507798 | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Minor cleanup https://review.openstack.org/507806 | 09:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | HCLTech-SSW proposed openstack/swift master: Implemented the fix to support the feature of undeleting the account which was marked for deletion for the reaper. https://review.openstack.org/507808 | 09:47 |
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| mjseger | mattoliverau: are you there? | 10:34 |
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| mattoliverau | mjseger: o/ | 10:45 |
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| mjseger | mattoliverau: do you want tp chat on our internal irc? | 10:50 |
| acoles | mjseger: hi! | 10:51 |
| mjseger | acoles: hi, long time no chat | 10:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Make broker.build_shard_ranges filter results for marker etc https://review.openstack.org/506681 | 11:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Make broker.build_shard_ranges filter results for marker etc https://review.openstack.org/506681 | 11:15 |
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| kong | hi guys, a quick question before i go to bed. Does swift already support to send notifications when container/object is changed? | 11:58 |
| kong | send notification to Ceilometer i mean | 11:59 |
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| therve | kong, There is a middleware to do so | 12:13 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: what are we doing on the etherpad once we have triaged a New bug - deleting, strike though or moving to another section? | 12:45 |
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| Dw_Sn | what would be the safest way to add more disks to a running object storage system ? is there any docs. I can read ? I have two storage nodes with 1:1 replication factor, each has around 5 LUNs and I would like to add an extra LUN for each.. I assume I just need to add the storage and then rebuild and redistribute the rings ? | 12:46 |
| acoles | Dw_Sn: https://docs.openstack.org/swift/latest/admin_guide.html#managing-the-rings add the new devices to the ring, rebalance and distribute new ring files, (make sure replicator and reconstructor daemons are running) and swift will balance across new devices. | 12:52 |
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| dhellmann | notmyname : the new release highlights will go in the deliverable files in openstack/releases. We talked about using reno, but decided the audience might be different enough to want different phrasing or emphasis | 12:59 |
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| Dw_Sn | acoles: reconstructur and replicator daemon on storage nodes ? | 13:08 |
| acoles | Dw_Sn: yes | 13:08 |
| acoles | object-replicator and object-reconstructor | 13:09 |
| acoles | they should always be running | 13:09 |
| Dw_Sn | I am running CentOS I have replicator , updater, auditor , object .. I am running Newton | 13:10 |
| acoles | reconstructor is only necessary of you have erasure coded storage policies | 13:10 |
| acoles | s/of/if/ | 13:11 |
| Dw_Sn | acoles: no I am not using Erasure coding.. just 1:1 replication for now | 13:12 |
| Dw_Sn | acoles: cool ! thanks I will try that, and no need to restart any services on the storage nodes right ? | 13:12 |
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| acoles | right, services will reload the new ring files | 13:16 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: good morning, I think deleting is fine | 13:40 |
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| tdasilva | heh, all NEW bugs are at least 1 year old :) | 13:43 |
| acoles | tdasilva: on the etherpad, not for real? | 13:44 |
| tdasilva | acoles: yeah, on the etherpad | 13:44 |
| tdasilva | but i think that list needs to be updated... | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: Minor cleanup https://review.openstack.org/507806 | 14:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: Respect co-builder partition moves when min_part_hours is zero https://review.openstack.org/499634 | 14:05 |
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| Dw_Sn | acoles: if i am just adding object storage luns, I don't need to rsync all the rings ? or do I ? | 14:14 |
| acoles | Dw_Sn: when you say 'rsync the rings' do you mean distribute new ring .gz files? just the ones you changed | 14:15 |
| Dw_Sn | acoles: yes I mean distribute :) thanks ! running rebalance now | 14:16 |
| Dw_Sn | acoles: also I have to wait till the rebalance is done ? I mean I just executed the rebalance command | 14:17 |
| Dw_Sn | Reassigned 13106 (40.00%) partitions. Balance is now 0.01. Dispersion is now 20.00 | 14:18 |
| Dw_Sn | acoles: thanks for the support :) I guess everything is working okay ! | 14:21 |
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| Dw_Sn | acoles: sorry one last question, what if I added the LUN into the wrong zone.. can I change the LUNs zone ? if so how ? | 14:37 |
| tdasilva | Dw_Sn: I think you would need this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291990/ | 14:42 |
| patchbot | patch 291990 - swift - Add commands to ring-builder to change region / zone | 14:42 |
| acoles | Dw_Sn: you will need to remove that device from the ring then re-add it with the correct zone, and rebalance of course | 14:42 |
| tdasilva | sounds like the solution for now might be remove and add the device (i.e., LUN in your case) again | 14:43 |
| tdasilva | yeah what acoles said :) | 14:43 |
| tdasilva | and we should merge that patch :) | 14:43 |
| acoles | Dw_Sn: you may need to wait some time if you have created your ring with min_part_hours>0. in fact you should wait for your current replicator rebalancing to complete whatever | 14:45 |
| Dw_Sn | okay, I will change the weight to be 0 , wait , then remove and add again | 14:47 |
| cschwede | notmyname, tdasilva: i updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list - kept the old one at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list-20170927 | 14:49 |
| tdasilva | cschwede: thanks! | 14:50 |
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| acoles | cschwede: the old one looked better ;) | 14:55 |
| tdasilva | heh | 14:55 |
| tdasilva | acoles, cschwede I tried to clean up a bit, removed the 'Confirmed' section as we should not be triaging those again | 14:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: Add cautionary note re delay_reaping in account-server.conf-sample https://review.openstack.org/507899 | 15:36 |
| timburke | good morning | 15:37 |
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| tdasilva | just a reminder that we will be discussing the PUT+POST patch in about 10 minutes on a video chat: https://bluejeans.com/704762476 | 15:51 |
| tdasilva | for anyone that wants to join, we were not able to have this discussion during last PTG so we will be doing that today | 15:51 |
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| notmyname | cschwede: thanks | 16:04 |
| notmyname | today is bug triage day! | 16:04 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: zaitcev thanks for setting up that call | 17:16 |
| zaitcev | tdasilva: agree, thanks a lot. | 17:16 |
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| zaitcev | But you know, for some reason I was sure that we use a "2-stage commit protocol", not a 3-stage protocol. All my thinking was biased by that. | 17:17 |
| tdasilva | good meeting, looking forward to new patchset :) | 17:18 |
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| not_me | Hello! I am sorry to disturb but I have been looking for some detailed documentation on Object writes/Container updates workflows without success. I was wondering if one of you could point me to a white paper I might have missed. Long story short, while it seems clear that when a object PUT request is submitted to a proxy node, a 200 code is sent back to the client when a quorum of replicas has been written, I am still unclear about the container | 18:21 |
| not_me | update associated with the write; is every object server also updating the container listing at the time of write? | 18:21 |
| not_me | I am not sure I am being clear here :( | 18:22 |
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| clayg | not_me: i'm not sure if any diagram or exists that explains how the container updates work - but the answer is "most of the time, yes" | 18:38 |
| clayg | Each object-server writing the object currently sends a request an update to "one" of the container replicas/dbs *before* responding to the proxy - so by the time the proxy sees "yup quorum of backend servers successful" the containers are already updated | 18:39 |
| clayg | the problem is that container dbs have indexes that have to be updated sometimes, and the big 'ol ssds backing all those databases can still bottleneck on iops, or sometimes ops just reboots servers and neteng hides your packets behind the cookiejar out of spite | 18:41 |
| clayg | ... when that happens the object server can't wait forever - so it will jot down a record for the object-updater to apply the container updater out-of-band - it's still commited to making the update (but the update will happen "async") - so it still responds success to the proxy | 18:42 |
| clayg | when this happens - it's not that uncommon that after a 201 object PUT - you can do a listing and find *at least one* container db replica that will server a listing that doesn't have the update for that new object - **YET** | 18:42 |
| clayg | but it will... eventually... | 18:42 |
| clayg | those little records the object-server writes for the object-updater when it commits to doing the container update later are called "async pendings" - you may find references to them in swift literature | 18:43 |
| clayg | GL! | 18:43 |
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| not_me | Thank you very much for your detailed answer clayg ! | 18:46 |
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| notmyname | how's bug triage going? | 19:08 |
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| clayg | notmyname: not great for me! | 19:27 |
| clayg | notmyname: tdasilva: is the etherpad with the tracking and the bug claiming/crossing-off still a thing? | 19:27 |
| notmyname | me neither! I'm in meetings! | 19:27 |
| tdasilva | clayg: sure thing https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 19:27 |
| notmyname | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 19:27 |
| tdasilva | just delete lines that you have triaged | 19:28 |
| tdasilva | i was able to triage a bit, but going to a meeting now | 19:28 |
| acoles | I triaged some today | 19:34 |
| acoles | did we manage to get graphs? | 19:34 |
| notmyname | yeah, they work for me (albeit slowly) | 19:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Fix intermittent failure in test_x_delete_after https://review.openstack.org/507964 | 19:38 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: i worked a bit on the slow graph, figured out how to get graph by date | 19:39 |
| notmyname | nice! | 19:39 |
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| timburke | ugh it's such a pain to try to close out bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1600109 | 20:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1600109 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Unit tests should not perform logging,but some tests still use" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Ji.Wei (jiwei) | 20:53 |
| timburke | i even tried going through launchpadlib and i *still* got a 503! | 20:53 |
| timburke | all i want to do is kill it with fire! | 20:53 |
| tdasilva | lol | 20:54 |
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| tdasilva | timburke: what's your opinion on this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1608980 | 20:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1608980 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Remove MANIFEST.in as it is not explicitly needed by PBR" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to iswarya vakati (v-iswarya) | 20:54 |
| timburke | pbr -- don't care? | 20:55 |
| timburke | least, that's my gut reaction | 20:55 |
| tdasilva | that was mine too | 20:56 |
| kota_ | good morning | 20:58 |
| acoles | kota_: o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | oh my, I almost missed the swift meeting | 21:00 |
| notmyname | I was talking to someone and lost track of the time | 21:02 |
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| thurloat | anything I can do about container-replicator sucking down 100% cpu all the time? | 21:04 |
| thurloat | does setting the concurrency help, like on the object-replicators? | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: Add cautionary note re delay_reaping in account-server.conf-sample https://review.openstack.org/507899 | 21:56 |
| acoles | clayg: I goofed up on first version of that ^^ mind taking another look | 21:56 |
| acoles | good night | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: swift-account-audit: compare each etag to the hash from container https://review.openstack.org/508000 | 22:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Replace SOSO auth prefix in examples with more-standard AUTH https://review.openstack.org/508001 | 22:11 |
| timburke | well *that* was an old bug... | 22:13 |
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| clayg | yeah, I don't really use swift-account-audit that much - I think i've re-written it in one-off scripts a few times... | 22:38 |
| clayg | well... a couple | 22:38 |
| clayg | i'm looking at 508000 | 22:40 |
| timburke | hey man, i'm just trying to fix the bug *you* wrote ;-) | 22:44 |
| clayg | git blame says I never touched bin/swift-account-audit? | 22:45 |
| timburke | no, i mean you're the actual bug author: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1266636 | 22:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1266636 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-account-audit displays AttributeError stacktrace on 404" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Roman Vasilets (rvasilets) | 22:46 |
| timburke | "reported by clayg on 2014-01-07" | 22:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: swift-account-audit: compare each etag to the hash from container https://review.openstack.org/508000 | 23:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Replace SOSO auth prefix in examples with more-standard AUTH https://review.openstack.org/508001 | 23:50 |
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