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| mattoliverau | m_kazuhiro: morning | 00:53 |
| m_kazuhiro | mattoliverau: morning! | 00:53 |
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| kota_ | mattoliverau: o/ | 03:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: Add container sharding to Swift containers https://review.openstack.org/423906 | 06:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift master: Container sharding docs https://review.openstack.org/438322 | 06:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Fix intermittent test_unlink_* failures https://review.openstack.org/451593 | 06:55 |
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| acoles | good morning | 07:51 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: morning o/ | 08:00 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: o/ welcome to (your) winter time :) | 08:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mahati Chamarthy proposed openstack/swift master: Limit number of revert tombstone SSYNC requests https://review.openstack.org/439572 | 08:24 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: thanks and it's been raining ll day so kinda feels like it too | 08:30 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: I meged your sharding config changes into the parent. Still want to play with misplaced objects. | 08:30 |
| mattoliverau | also thanks so much for all that reviewing | 08:31 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: :( rain | 08:31 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: ok cool. I ran out of time last week re misplaced objects, I think the test is sufficient to demonstrate the problem but I had no time to look t how easy it might be to workaround. Also the test could probably be fleshed out some more to cover more cases/more objects/more pivots??? consider it "scaffolding"! | 08:33 |
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| acoles | got me thinking about probe tests for this stuff | 08:33 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: yeah totally, I figure scaffolding it a great start. | 08:34 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: I hate to add to your gloomy day but it is beautiful spring sunshine here :P | 08:34 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, I've been meaning to make a basic probe test that would get us containers in the sharding and sharding state so we can start testing more edge cases (there is a trello card for it) | 08:35 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: lol, damn you :P | 08:35 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: actually I think this past weekend has been what we get to call "summer" in its entireity | 08:35 |
| mattoliverau | We've had a hurrican (way up north) but the weather has pushed alot of rain | 08:35 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: I should check out the trello board, hope to give this more time over coming weeks | 08:36 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 08:36 |
| mattoliverau | I try and update it with things as we think of them, or as people (you and tim) bring up in reviews. | 08:36 |
| acoles | good idea | 08:36 |
| acoles | with big features like this its easy to lose track of comments/todos on gerrit as the patch versions roll on, best to keep a list somewhere else | 08:37 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: looks like you and kota were making progress on patch 448480? | 08:38 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, there are things I said 'great idea' too in earlier patchsets that I think I may have already forgotten about.. so yeah can see how easy that is to happen. | 08:38 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448480/ - swift - Container drive error results double space usage o... | 08:38 |
| mattoliverau | yup, I wrote some probetests if you need an easy way to play with it. | 08:39 |
| kota_ | acoles: o/ | 08:39 |
| acoles | hi kota_ | 08:39 |
| mattoliverau | there should be a paste linked in the review. | 08:40 |
| * kota_ was concentrating another patch | 08:40 | |
| mattoliverau | A spend a bit of this arvo looking at the composit ring stuff (want to have more of a play with that too) | 08:40 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: seeing as you have a UUID patch for the ringbulder (re:composit rings) did you want to add a rebalance timestamp or something (last rebalance) at the same time.. that is if we want to compare when last rebalanced too.. tho maybe we only want to check if different no necessarily newer. | 08:40 |
| kota_ | oops, sounds thunder in Tokyo | 08:40 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: oic, a probe test? | 08:41 |
| mattoliverau | 2, one to demonstraight the problem. the other to play with a edgecase that kota_ and I talked about in channel last Friday. | 08:41 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: ok. | 08:42 |
| mattoliverau | it should apply to the review patch. | 08:42 |
| mattoliverau | k need to go do baby night rutine things now, bath, story and bed.. bbl. | 08:44 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: rebalance timestamp or some other way to compare the state of rings might be useful (e.g. md5 of replica2part2dev). I'm hoping we can make progress (i.e. land something) and follow on with those ideas. TBH I am not convinced how much we should care about re-composing rings that have not changed now it is just an offline process, but it would be a nice check to have | 08:44 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: k have a good evening | 08:44 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: yeah, good point (re:being offline). Still want to make it as fool proof as possible, cause I can be pretty foolish ;) | 08:45 |
| acoles | hehe | 08:45 |
| * acoles going for coffee | 08:45 | |
| mahatic | acoles: mattoliverau o/ | 08:49 |
| mahatic | kota_: o/ | 08:49 |
| mattoliverau | mahatic: o/ | 08:52 |
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| kota_ | mahatic: o/ | 08:53 |
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| acoles | mahatic: welcome back, did you have a good break? | 09:00 |
| mahatic | acoles: thanks. yup, did some hiking in the hills. away from the Bangalore summer :) | 09:03 |
| acoles | nice | 09:03 |
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| cbartz | Anyone here who can review patch 414232 ? Thx.... | 09:31 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414232/ - swift - Exclude containers for account quota | 09:31 |
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| onovy | funny bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1678976 | 09:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1678976 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "POST with Range header corrupts data without fast-POST" [Undecided,New] | 09:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/swift master: Remove Range header from non-GET requests https://review.openstack.org/452726 | 11:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/swift master: Remove Range header from non-GET requests https://review.openstack.org/452726 | 11:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: Fix UnicodeDecodeError in reconstructor _full_path function https://review.openstack.org/452750 | 13:14 |
| acoles | clayg: ^^ I think you found a different bug to rledisez | 13:15 |
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| acoles | rledisez: what version were you running when you saw bug 1678018 ? | 13:15 |
| openstack | bug 1678018 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "ssync_sender encoding issue" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1678018 | 13:15 |
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| rledisez | acoles: it was on swift 2.12. in the past we also ran 2.7 with the policy | 13:18 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:42 |
| notmyname | the TC has https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451524/ on the agenda for their meeting tomorrow. /cc tdasilva | 15:43 |
| notmyname | patch 451524 | 15:43 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451524/ - governance - Use case analysis for Golang addition to Openstack | 15:43 |
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| notmyname | acoles: do you remember when joel gets back? | 15:45 |
| acoles | notmyname: I believe he is back - I saw him leave some review comments late last week | 15:45 |
| notmyname | ok | 15:45 |
| notmyname | oh! you had time change this past weekend, right? | 15:46 |
| acoles | unless he did that from a mountain side somewhere | 15:46 |
| acoles | notmyname: nope we've been on BST for a whole week now :) | 15:46 |
| acoles | notmyname: however mattoliverau did just change clocks | 15:46 |
| notmyname | ah | 15:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: sharding: Test and refactor for _misplaced_objects https://review.openstack.org/451896 | 16:28 |
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| acoles | mattoliverau: ^^ the test now passes, I figured out how to get the list_iter_objects to return the full row info | 16:29 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: the interface into the broker is a bit crufty, we might want to make a variant of list_objects_iter that returns a dict like you use generate_list_objects to produce, save on an iteration at same time | 16:32 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: ack, got an email from ttx | 16:35 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: anything I should know? | 16:36 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: it was just the meeting agenda | 16:36 |
| tdasilva | he sent it to tc list and cc'd me on it | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed openstack/swift master: Add commands to ring-builder to change region / zone https://review.openstack.org/291990 | 18:14 |
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| mgagne | what's the best way to bulk delete a container with millions of objects? :D | 19:25 |
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| tdasilva | mgagne: one way is to use the bulk delete api: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/middleware.html#bulk-delete ;) | 19:30 |
| mgagne | tdasilva: thanks, will have to check if bulk is used. The openstackclient is used and multiple objects are passed. But at first glance, it looks like it doesn't translate to bulk :-/ | 19:32 |
| mgagne | looks like "native" swift client has more options at the CLI | 19:34 |
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| tdasilva | mgagne: yeah, using either cli is a different approach that can also be useful because you could potentially be spreading the load across many proxies | 19:36 |
| tdasilva | as opposed to the bulk api where you are sending a request to one proxy and that one proxy is sending all delete requests to the storage servers | 19:37 |
| mgagne | true, will check that, thanks =) | 19:37 |
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| mgagne | we aren't using the bulk API and so far, it's gonna take weeks to delete =) | 19:38 |
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| clayg | steps to fix a bug in swift #1 report the bug #2 understand what's broke #3 write the trivial and obvious fix #4 ship it - when we try to do #1-3 at the sametime things get gummed up in boring and useless ways - please report issues as early as possilbe and make sure the bug is triaged before commiting to writing tests/change - if you happen to have a patch that womm you can attach it to the bug report to help with the triage. | 20:36 |
| notmyname | I sense frustration | 20:36 |
| notmyname | but you're not wrong! | 20:37 |
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| clayg | notmyname: nah, it's fine - but I don't feel great about setting a bug from in progress to incomplete - or debating internally if my notes from investigation should go on the bug report or the patch - and I feel like I've done that twice in the two days back from vacation | 21:53 |
| clayg | I think the solution is to stop writing bugs - process of not having any bugs to fix is more similar to vacation ;) | 21:54 |
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| zaitcev | "In one of our installations, we are using Fernet tokens with Keystone V3. In that context, I was wondering if we need the keystone revocation thread in RGW to run by default." -- Ceph users, they do curious things. | 22:19 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 22:24 |
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| mattoliverau | acoles: ta, yeah, that's a good point. that would clean it up alot. | 22:51 |
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| notmyname | good morning mattoliverau | 23:07 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: I was wondering what's going on with stable gate tests | 23:08 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: not too much, I have it running, but haven't checked it much.. I'll make sure I spend some time today spending a few cycles playing with it some more :) | 23:10 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448854/ seems to be passing the gate now, but wasn't there another issue too? (sorry, I had a 4 day weekend, so my memory is a little fuzzy) | 23:10 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: yeah, thanks. I was looking at other backports, and that's when I remembered something something something big problem matt's fixing it | 23:10 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 23:10 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: so tldr, ther doesn't seem to be any big problems, as each intermittent error is mostly different. so I think it's just flaky testing edge cases in general. | 23:12 |
| mattoliverau | and sometimes it takes a while on an SAIO to hit one. | 23:12 |
| notmyname | yeah, but timburke had mentioned that they'd gotten a lot more frequent lately. i think that was the only warning flag | 23:13 |
| mattoliverau | But I want to keep an eye, because as we solve each one (over time) we can learn the courses and teach us all how to write better tests :) | 23:13 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: yeah, the periodic jobs in gerrit seem to hit alot more. though that do run once a day. | 23:14 |
| notmyname | yeah, if it's so rare in the saio, I'd expect it to be even more rare in a once-daily job | 23:14 |
| mattoliverau | so what 1 a week (pulling a number out of there air) is alot more regualar that what I'm seeing. | 23:15 |
| mattoliverau | ^ so what you said :P | 23:15 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: is it a higher contended bunch of servers, causing more slips in say dealing with timestamps then what happens to us locally, or the way nodepool builds test nodes? | 23:16 |
| mattoliverau | hmm, maybe I could go build a node pool image, and then run some tests on that. | 23:16 |
| mattoliverau | or however they do that nowdays | 23:16 |
| mattoliverau | I might ask Josh in our meeting today :) | 23:17 |
| mattoliverau | ^ I mean the Australian rpc standup | 23:18 |
| mattoliverau | k, email read, /me is going to grab a coffee. bbs | 23:19 |
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