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| circ-user-oWpLl | hi all, i installed swift with keystone.. but i m getting error when i try swift stat.. i m using mitaka version.. the error is "Unable to establish connection to $swiftURL" | 07:26 |
| circ-user-oWpLl | its authenticating with keystone.. but couldnt enter into swift | 07:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Raise ValueError if a config section does not exist https://review.openstack.org/393388 | 07:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/swift: Replace six iteration methods with standard ones https://review.openstack.org/375344 | 07:54 |
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| mahatic_ | jrichli: doing good, thanks. Happy holidays! No plans for me as such, we don't have any holidays in India | 08:15 |
| mahatic_ | mathiasb: np, nice work! | 08:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 09:08 |
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| netinfinity | Quick question about swift-recon. It seems i can't get any stats because of this error: return self.greenlet.switch() socket.timeout: timed out | 13:53 |
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| netinfinity | Not a single swift-recon command doesn't work because of this... even with added timeout | 13:55 |
| netinfinity | with added timeout i get this: httplib.BadStatusLine: '' | 13:55 |
| netinfinity | anyone? | 14:00 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/swift: Move bandit to pep8 https://review.openstack.org/364892 | 19:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/swift: Move bandit to pep8 https://review.openstack.org/364892 | 19:29 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:10 |
| notmyname | anyone ever used python bindings to LXC? | 21:12 |
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| tdasilva | clayg: hello, i've started to look at the libec/pyeclib merger and would like to understand your idea little bit futher | 21:24 |
| tdasilva | did you have in mind that when running something like setup.py to install pyeclib it would also build libec? | 21:24 |
| clayg | tdasilva: step #1 make it awesome step #2 shipit | 21:24 |
| tdasilva | clayg: hehehe | 21:24 |
| tdasilva | lol | 21:24 |
| tdasilva | or vice-versa? | 21:25 |
| clayg | tdasilva: so my idea is that the repo that is currently pyeclib gets a commit that says "This project was a bad idea (TM). Just use liberasurecode to build python-liberasurecode FTW." | 21:25 |
| clayg | then in python-liberasurecode probably under something like "src" or whatever - there's a "python" directory .... | 21:26 |
| clayg | it has a setup.py | 21:26 |
| tdasilva | clayg: that's what i have right now..but can you explain further what you meant by: | 21:26 |
| clayg | it has CPython code that results in something swift can import that does the job we currently need done from pyeclib | 21:26 |
| tdasilva | "someone might think that the nature of pyeclib using whatever dynamic liberassurecode .so it finds at run time had some practical utility - but for me it mostly just sucks" | 21:26 |
| tdasilva | do you expect how pyeclib loads libec.so to change? | 21:27 |
| tdasilva | or would you like it to see it changed? | 21:27 |
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| clayg | so the reason the code in the python dir of liberasurecode won't be *exactly* the same as pyeclib (althought that's a great start!) is that because I think it would be insane to have python-liberasurecode still dynamically load a shared library instead of just including everything it needs from liberasurecode when it builds | 21:28 |
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| clayg | and honestly this is a little bit where I lost sight of my "obviously correct thing to do" and get into "what I want to figure out how to make it work" | 21:28 |
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| tdasilva | ok, i think i understand now... | 21:29 |
| clayg | i would sorta like `python setup.py sdist` to make a tarbal that has everything it needs and _liberasure.so to not have to dynamically link to anything - but instead just have everything | 21:30 |
| clayg | so when you build python-liberasurecode 1.6 you get liberasurecode 1.6 - not whatever version of liberasurecode happens to be laying around in some other part of the system somewhere | 21:30 |
| clayg | that's how I think it should work - pretty sure | 21:31 |
| tdasilva | yes, understood. | 21:31 |
| tdasilva | thanks for clarifying that... | 21:31 |
| clayg | if it doesn't work like that because of some other use-case or just because that's hard for some reason ... well idk ... | 21:31 |
| clayg | ok you're awesome | 21:31 |
| tdasilva | ok, my plan then is to start with the low-hanging fruit stuff, propose to review and then we can all iterate over how we would like it to merge | 21:32 |
| tdasilva | so that way kota, zaitcev_, onovy can also express their opinions | 21:32 |
| tdasilva | ???? | 21:32 |
| tdasilva | zigo might also have something to say, i think he is the other debian packager with onovy | 21:32 |
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| zaitcev_ | Just make something that builds, I'll adapt to it. | 21:34 |
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| tdasilva | zaitcev_: yeah, that's what I thought you would say ;) i think the same should be true for onovy / zigo | 21:35 |
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| onovy | tdasilva: clayg: my point of view: use whatevery "build" system you like, but build C lib + python binding (dynamic linking with C lib) + other binding for other langs (again, dynamic linked with C lib) | 21:52 |
| onovy | build system can be Makefile, or python setup.py sdist | 21:52 |
| onovy | but i'm not sure how you would build golang with python setup.py :) | 21:53 |
| onovy | so just produce same binary staff as we have now (.so + python code + python .so) | 21:53 |
| tdasilva | onovy: i don't think we plan to have golang be built with python setup.py | 21:54 |
| onovy | current split (two repos, one for C and one for Python) is completly perfect for me. different build system, different code | 21:54 |
| onovy | but i'm fine with one repo | 21:54 |
| tdasilva | onovy: in fact what i envision is that each language bindinging would have its own buil mechanism | 21:54 |
| onovy | tdasilva: so makefile for C lib, and setup.py sdist for python? | 21:55 |
| onovy | what will be on pypi? only python code? no C lib? same as now? | 21:55 |
| tdasilva | onovy: correct....with the addition that the python setup.py sdist would also build and package the library instead of loading whatever .so exists on the system (if I understood correctly) | 21:56 |
| tdasilva | so the C Makefile would only be used by folks that are not using either a python or golang binding | 21:56 |
| onovy | so you are going to distribute binary liberasurecode throw pypi? | 21:56 |
| tdasilva | onovy: that's my fuzzy understanding atm | 21:56 |
| onovy | no, i don't like this way :) | 21:57 |
| onovy | for Debian i need to have more that one binary package (same source isn't problem) | 21:57 |
| onovy | so i will need liberasurecode + python-eclib + golang-eclib | 21:57 |
| onovy | because golang and python will share same .so from liberasurecode | 21:58 |
| onovy | (which is correct) | 21:58 |
| onovy | so if upstream python-eclib will not use .so from system i will need to patch it to use it | 21:58 |
| tdasilva | onovy: understood | 22:07 |
| onovy | distro typical dislikes copying of same code | 22:07 |
| onovy | *typically | 22:07 |
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| onovy | so we don't want to have same code in python-eclib and golang-eclib. so static linking inside this packages is not option | 22:07 |
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| timburke | onovy: even if every release of python-eclib expects to dep on tip-of-master for the C lib? how much should we work to ensure that newer .so doesn't break older language-specific bindings? | 22:12 |
| onovy | just bump ABI version | 22:13 |
| onovy | whole lib* world do it this way | 22:13 |
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| onovy | because you should ensure you don't break older python-binding AND other users | 22:13 |
| onovy | so every liberasurecode ABI breakage should bump ABI version | 22:13 |
| onovy | ->fixed. Next? :) | 22:14 |
| timburke | k. and then we can have old & new side-by-side. i think that makes sense | 22:14 |
| onovy | idealy you should have backward compatiblity in python-eclib for some older liberasurecode | 22:15 |
| onovy | but not all, just "some" | 22:15 |
| onovy | example: nginx is compatible with openssl 1.0.1 + 1.0.2 + 1.1 | 22:15 |
| onovy | and not older | 22:15 |
| onovy | (they are using ifdefs in code) | 22:15 |
| onovy | and this checks needs to be done only during build, because ABI bump = liberasure.so rename | 22:15 |
| timburke | yeah, i don't expect us to break it unnecessarily, just want to keep it in mind since i expect people will start thinking of all of them as a single unit | 22:16 |
| onovy | your ABI number is major number in your versioning scheme | 22:18 |
| onovy | so it's simple | 22:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Move documented reclaim_age option to correct location https://review.openstack.org/374419 | 22:18 |
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| clayg | man those stupid suffix dirs in the container's are a real PITA | 23:03 |
| clayg | [22:15] onovy | idealy you should have backward compatiblity in python-eclib for some older liberasurecode | 23:15 |
| clayg | ^ THIS FUCK THIS FUCK THIS SO FUCKING HARD | 23:15 |
| clayg | i'm not signing up for that shit | 23:15 |
| clayg | i don't want to make a god damn ec library | 23:16 |
| clayg | i want to make swift work and I want it to do EC | 23:16 |
| clayg | sorry - just catching up on scrollback :D | 23:17 |
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