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| clayg | notmyname: why'd you make me look at patch 348495 - container sync + SLO is horrible :\ | 00:05 |
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| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348495/ - swift - Make container sync copy SLO manifests | 00:05 |
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| clayg | sometimes I feel like any metadata that's not in the sysmeta namespace is a bug waiting to happen :\ | 00:09 |
| timburke | almost certainly. there's a reason i'm not returning all of allowed_headers in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357559/ | 00:11 |
| patchbot | patch 357559 - swift - Include metadata in PUT/POST responses | 00:11 |
| pdardeau | i spent a little time trying to fully understand the makeup of swift data dir file path | 00:16 |
| pdardeau | decided to document my findings for future reference | 00:16 |
| pdardeau | please let me know if i got any of it wrong | 00:16 |
| pdardeau | https://gist.github.com/pauldardeau/559048ef35ce57cb4fb940bfce139f0d | 00:16 |
| pdardeau | *swift data file path | 00:16 |
| clayg | timburke: what about x-delete-at x-object-manifest and x-static-large-object tho? | 00:17 |
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| timburke | clayg: not immediately relevant to what i wanted to do with it, nor to tdasilva's use-case. if you need it, you can add it :-P | 00:18 |
| kota_ | good morning | 00:19 |
| timburke | good morning kota_ | 00:19 |
| clayg | pdardeau: looks good to me! i'm sure you've noticed we call "last 3 chars of name hash" the "suffix" | 00:19 |
| kota_ | hi timburke! | 00:19 |
| clayg | it's just a good way to break up all the hashdirs in the partition since there's a lot of them and they all have the same prefix ;) | 00:19 |
| kota_ | timburke: we are talking in dual channel :P | 00:19 |
| timburke | it happens :) | 00:20 |
| pdardeau | clayg: thx. i'll update | 00:20 |
| clayg | pdardeau: oh, you don't need to - everything you stated there was correct AFAIK! | 00:21 |
| * kota_ is thinking we have had a lot of talks in the last night (in my time), so need to update the backlog | 00:21 | |
| clayg | timburke: what is the use-case you and tdasilva have for metadata in responses? | 00:21 |
| timburke | for me, returning encryption status; for tdasilva, symlinks | 00:22 |
| timburke | (and in particular, noticing that you just POSTed to one) | 00:22 |
| clayg | i vaugly remember needing some metadata in a response (x-timestamp?) - but that have been only in the backend - maybe related to a conversation with jrichli? or someone wrt to symlinks? | 00:22 |
| clayg | timburke: maybe that was it! | 00:22 |
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| jrichli | clayg timburke: there was an x-timestamp thing added for "help with ACL-caching in swift3" | 00:25 |
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| jrichli | you know I got notes on everything, right? ;-) | 00:25 |
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| timburke | thanks jrichli :-) | 00:27 |
| notmyname | clayg: sorry :-( | 00:29 |
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| clayg | it irks me so much that multipart-manifest=get&format=raw doesn't return the raw format of the manifest as stored ondisk - but instead the weird translated format that the client sends - which is different from what gets stored for no good reason (client could easily send raw^Wondisk format) | 00:47 |
| timburke | clayg: i still kinda feel like we ought to accept either format, with an eye toward deprecating the current client-facing one | 00:49 |
| clayg | timburke: yes yes yes +10000 | 00:49 |
| clayg | timburke: i think the only reason that multipart-manifest=get can return the client format is for copy middleware yes? could have easily gone the other way - let the slo middlware accept the current ondisk format - the "raw" format if you will ;) | 00:50 |
| timburke | and allowing clients to re-upload without needing to do the transformation themselves -- basically, the container-sync use-case | 00:51 |
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| clayg | nope, i seem to be wrong about that -> format=raw exists compleatly orthogonal of the copy middleware -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263902/ | 00:53 |
| patchbot | patch 263902 - swift - Re-format the SLO manifest file on new multipart-m... (MERGED) | 00:53 |
| timburke | i think we recognized that it would be a necessary pre-req, though | 00:53 |
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| timburke | indeed, it looks like acoles_ recommended a second param over multipart-manifest-get-raw specifically for copy's benefit | 00:59 |
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| clayg | g'night | 01:33 |
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| zhengyin | clayg: thanks a lot :) | 01:34 |
| redbo | pdardeau: Also filenames can have multiple timestamps, if that's in scope. | 01:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: More Test[Account|Container]Controller test updates https://review.openstack.org/363628 | 01:48 |
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| zhengyin | good morning | 02:04 |
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| notmyname | good evening | 02:52 |
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| mattoliverau | notmyname: o/ | 03:04 |
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| zhengyin | notmyname, mattoliverau: o/ | 03:10 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: so my LCA talk...you know, the one in January--four months from now | 03:11 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: I realized that I told some people I'd give that talk at a meetup next week. guess I better start writing it ;-) | 03:11 |
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| mattoliverau | notmyname: lol, tho 4 months means it;ll probably be retuned and a completely different talk by LCA :) | 03:15 |
| notmyname | it will definitely be different :-) | 03:15 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: however, you usually only right your LCA talk the week before, so it's not like you've given yourself any less time :P | 03:17 |
| notmyname | hey! | 03:17 |
| mattoliverau | s/right/write/ | 03:17 |
| notmyname | that's not completely true! | 03:17 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 03:18 |
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| notmyname | mattoliverau: zhengyin: did you see that I updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews ? That can give you a starting point for reviews this week | 03:20 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: and youv'e already +a'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162243/ yay! | 03:21 |
| patchbot | patch 162243 - swift - Make object creation more atomic in Linux | 03:21 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: yup, the first one is done ;) | 03:21 |
| zhengyin | notmyname: ok :( | 03:22 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: yeah, just needed to build an SAIO on a newer kernel to test it out some more, so that and meetings took up my morning. Time to move to the next review :) | 03:22 |
| mattoliverau | zhengyin: morning (sorry for being late). Been a busy morning | 03:22 |
| zhengyin | mattoliverau: :) | 03:23 |
| mattoliverau | Looks like if I set up my env for some container sync action I'll be set for a few more priority reviews. | 03:24 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: if I could suggest one to start with, it would be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355958/ | 03:27 |
| patchbot | patch 355958 - swift - EC - eliminate .durable files | 03:27 |
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| mahatic | good morning | 03:34 |
| notmyname | hello mahatic | 03:38 |
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| mahatic | notmyname: o/ | 03:41 |
| jrichli | mahatic: o/ | 03:46 |
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| mahatic | jrichli: mattoliverau: hello! | 03:51 |
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| zhengyin | jrichli,mahatic: o/ | 03:53 |
| jrichli | zhengyin: hi! | 03:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Make object creation more atomic in Linux https://review.openstack.org/162243 | 04:02 |
| mahatic | zhengyin: o/ | 04:03 |
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| oxinabox | Semantically, is the pseudofolder part of the container name, or the object name? I'm not sure if it is actually different between upload and download, but it seems like it is, possibly because one of the two corrects it if you have it wrong, and the other doesn't | 07:44 |
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| oxinabox | Is it a subcontainer, or is it a prefix to the key? | 07:44 |
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| ahale_ | its part of the object name | 08:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Add test_pop in the test_header_key_dict https://review.openstack.org/367733 | 08:10 |
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| oxinabox | thanks | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/89250 | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 09:43 |
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| oxinabox | What can I do to imporve my download speed on big files? I get 65Megabytes/s uploading but on 2Megabytes/s downloading. | 10:11 |
| oxinabox | Is there a guide for this somewhere? | 10:11 |
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| pbandark | can we use single swift service on multiple openstack setup? for ex. i have configured swift on one setup which is backend for cinder backup service. I want to use same swift backend on other openstack setup as a backend for cinder backup. I tried with updating "backup_swift_url"(cinder.conf). but i am unable to take backup of volume it fails with Unauthorized error | 12:30 |
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| pbandark | I want to create shared backend for cinder backup service on 2 openstack setup | 12:30 |
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| cbartz | Is there a core reviewer available for reviewing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333331/ ? | 12:46 |
| patchbot | patch 333331 - swift - Preserve query params in tempurl | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mathias Bjoerkqvist proposed openstack/swift: WIP: Storing encryption root secret in Barbican https://review.openstack.org/364878 | 13:44 |
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| ntata | Good Morning! | 15:13 |
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| clayg | oxinabox: that's opposite of most peoples experience with large files - upload is normally slower than download by some good measure | 15:16 |
| clayg | pbandark: i'm not sure that multiple cinder installations sharing a single swift cluster is usecase that's specifically covered | 15:17 |
| clayg | pbandark: the authorization issue is something with the keystone service user configuration - you should get a single cinder instance working first | 15:17 |
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| clayg | then you can try to add the second one as a different service user (that's most likely to isolate things from swift's perspective of being a different account) | 15:18 |
| clayg | i'm not sure of the implication of configuring the same cinder service user for both cinder clusters | 15:19 |
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| zaitcev | https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/hpe-dumps-its-legacy-bets-farm-hybrid-simon-phipps?trk=hp-feed-article-title-comment | 15:33 |
| notmyname | good morning | 15:33 |
| zaitcev | "[HPE] Combines the strong OpenStack bench SUSE has been building with HPE's OpenStack team in an unspecified way" | 15:33 |
| zaitcev | Well, as long as Alasdair is safe | 15:33 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: welcome back. hope your vacation was good | 15:34 |
| zaitcev | notmyname: fabulous. No Internet for 3 days. | 15:35 |
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| zaitcev | It's great unless a life-threatening injury occurs, then it could suck. Been buzzed by Navy helicopters flying through a canyon in which we camped. | 15:36 |
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| ahale_ | so - hows hiring in the openstack swift world ? | 15:41 |
| zaitcev | Hiring is great if you're not a complete idiot like myself... Then they ask things like, what have you done in Swift? And I'm like: "Umm...." | 15:42 |
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| timburke | clayg: if you've got a symmetric connection, i totally expect upload to be better than download. it's all about the connections -- i can upload in parallel, unless i'm willing to grab the manifest and reconstruct client-side, i'm downloading sequentially | 16:53 |
| clayg | timburke: I hadn't considered that oxinabox might be using parallel large object upload | 16:55 |
| mahatic | redbo: hi, could you take a look at this patch 346865 when you have a moment? clayg has provided great inputs, would be nice to know what you think of it. | 16:57 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346865/ - swift - Delete old tombstones | 16:57 |
| timburke | iirc, it's swiftclient (and SwiftService in particular) wrapped up in julia, so the parallel upload happens for "free" | 16:57 |
| timburke | i've got some ideas for https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-swiftclient/+bug/1621562 but sadly not enough time :-( | 16:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1621562 in python-swiftclient "Download large objects concurrently" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 16:58 |
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| clayg | acoles: donagh is right - if you pull out the ETag thing we can go forward with patch 348495 as-is - i have some broader concerens obviously - but i mostly think teaching container-sync to boss the slo middleware around is fine for the short term? | 17:33 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348495/ - swift - Make container sync copy SLO manifests | 17:33 |
| clayg | IMHO | 17:33 |
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| tdasilva | torgomatic, timburke: i remember a couple of patches you guys worked on get_info a while back, should we mark this bug fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1501939 | 18:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501939 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "get_info environ caching is leaky and brittle" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:00 |
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| timburke | tdasilva: probably? i think between https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280977/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280978/ we took care of most of it | 18:06 |
| patchbot | patch 280977 - swift - Make info caching work across subrequests (MERGED) | 18:06 |
| patchbot | patch 280978 - swift - Fix up get_account_info and get_container_info (MERGED) | 18:06 |
| timburke | and by "we" i mean "torgomatic" | 18:07 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: looks like the api-ref docs do get updated with the builds. I had remembered us talking about docs only getting rebuilt with releases or something - which is why I had asked. | 18:16 |
| notmyname | jrichli: ah ok. I know swiftclient used to be that way, but IMO it should all be built at every commit (with links in the sidebar to older versions) | 18:17 |
| jrichli | ok | 18:17 |
| clarkb | notmyname: clayg: trying to debug why glance + swift + keystone v3 only is unhappy here http://logs.openstack.org/50/369550/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-identity-v3-only-full-ubuntu-xenial-nv/7626439/logs/screen-g-api.txt.gz#_2016-09-13_17_36_57_378 is that a known issue? though rereading that traceback glance might have a better idea | 18:18 |
| notmyname | clarkb: not off of the top of my head | 18:20 |
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| notmyname | timburke: no known keystone v3 issues that you know of? | 18:20 |
| notmyname | clarkb: have you been able to talk directly to swift with a v3 keystone endpoint (ie without going through glance)? | 18:21 |
| clarkb | rereading that I think glance is the thing failing to keystone there not swift. I thought swift may have returned the 401 but _get_storage_url is what raises and that should be talking to keystone catalog things | 18:21 |
| clarkb | notmyname: not yet I am spinning up an env to reproduce t his now | 18:21 |
| notmyname | kk | 18:21 |
| zaitcev | I think API path changed in v3. It used to have /path/v2.0 in there, but now it's just /path to which you do POST | 18:22 |
| zaitcev | I end testing with curl -XPOST every time, because I can never remember where the endpoint is. | 18:23 |
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| timburke | notmyname: not that i'm aware of, no | 18:25 |
| timburke | clarkb: i agree; looks like the 401 happened while trying to get the auth token | 18:25 |
| timburke | url looks more or less reasonable, but i thought the port was usually 5000? | 18:26 |
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| timburke | looks like this is the relevant bit from the keystone logs, though there still isn't a clear reason that auth failed: http://logs.openstack.org/50/369550/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-identity-v3-only-full-ubuntu-xenial-nv/7626439/logs/apache/keystone.txt.gz?#_2016-09-13_17_36_57_374 | 18:30 |
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| zaitcev | Oh dear god, while I was frolicking in desert, Clay added whitespace to my ugly code. | 18:38 |
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| tqtran | acoles: ping, are you still around. have another question. does the concept of a user_group make sense in keystoneauth context (where we are just checking for user id)? | 18:48 |
| acoles | tqtran: no, not to me. user have roles on projects, I'm not sure what a user_group would be or represent. | 18:50 |
| acoles | clayg: ack, thanks for review! I guess I got confused over slo etags (easily done!), will fix soon, been busy doing CPR on optimistic GETs | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Enable object server to return non-durable data https://review.openstack.org/215276 | 18:52 |
| acoles | kota_: phew, that was a fantastic review, thank you. ^^ fixes your points and rebases for another merge conflict with master. | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack/swift: Supporting Account ACL in keystoneauth https://review.openstack.org/356715 | 19:09 |
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| clayg | well that's marginally better | 19:24 |
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| clayg | zaitcev: I really was just trying out my vim-go plugins - redbo said it was ok | 19:24 |
| * clayg has no idea what's *go*ing on ;) | 19:24 | |
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| zaitcev | clarkb: It's fine, just a reminder that they have their equivalent of pep8, built right into the toolchain. | 19:24 |
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| redbo | Yeah, the CI should have caught the lack of formatting, but it's gotten so unstable I kind of ignore it. I need to take care of it. | 19:25 |
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| redbo | I wish I could just use travisci or whatever. | 19:26 |
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| tqtran | hi all, have a question. https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/test/unit/common/middleware/test_tempauth.py#L1090 the config seems to have no effect at all, why do we include it in the tests? | 19:40 |
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| clayg | tqtran: looks like cruft to me | 20:12 |
| tqtran | great! i'll remove them in my refactor patch :D | 20:13 |
| clayg | tqtran: i mean it's sorta nuts the way the test is setup to preseed the request environ cache with the fake cache that has the token already cached with the grouops and stuff | 20:13 |
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| tqtran | right, but the conf doesnt really play into the outcome, so not sure why we even bother since it just introduces "cruft" | 20:14 |
| clayg | sure | 20:14 |
| clayg | i think some of the other TestCase classes in the module do things a bit different and acctually use the configured users | 20:15 |
| clayg | so maybe it was cargo culted from there? | 20:15 |
| tqtran | yeah thats entirely possible | 20:15 |
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| notmyname | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews has been updated with a more restricted set of patches to focus on to get into the release | 20:33 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:34 |
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| jlwhite | timburke: Hi, I have a question about python-swiftclient | 21:37 |
| timburke | hey, i know about that! | 21:37 |
| timburke | jlwhite: what's the question? | 21:37 |
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| clayg | lol | 21:43 |
| clayg | redbo: what was i going to do about golang and privledge drops again? | 21:43 |
| notmyname | now I'm curious what Alexandr Porunov's nick is in IRC (from the ML) ;-) | 21:46 |
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| zaitcev | https://www.linkedin.com/in/%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2-53861a79 | 21:55 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: I can't read that. but I'm guessing you can | 21:55 |
| clayg | you guys are creepy ;) | 21:56 |
| zaitcev | Well, he's put OpenStack Swift onto his LinkedIn cred, which seems A Bit Too Soon to me. | 21:57 |
| notmyname | he said he was joining IRC. I just wanted to say hi | 21:57 |
| clayg | rofl | 21:57 |
| clayg | terrible | 21:57 |
| clayg | just terrible | 21:57 |
| clayg | zaitcev: have you checked if hummingbird supports config directories lately? | 21:57 |
| notmyname | I think the 4k video use case is awesome | 21:57 |
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| clayg | zaitcev: do you care about config directories? IME packers like config directories for stuff sometimes | 21:58 |
| clayg | notmyname: it's all about 16K video now | 21:58 |
| zaitcev | clayg: There is some code there to support them, which reads each file with standard config reader then merges values. But I did not test it. | 21:58 |
| notmyname | clayg: *mind blown* | 21:58 |
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| zaitcev | clayg: I do not use config directories in packaging of Swift in RDO, at least not yet. But in general, it's much easier to add a file to /etc/foo.conf.d than to sed/ed/awk a configuration file and hope for the best. | 22:01 |
| clayg | redbo: k, yeah so my `hummingbird object-replicator -c /blah/blah.conf` def does *not* honor the "user" value in my config - so I think I can fix that in my shim | 22:01 |
| clayg | ... but idk what to do if someone tries to set bind_port to something privledged? | 22:02 |
| clayg | for me I'm happy to call it a limitation of the object-replicator that it can't bind to a privledged port unless you setcap something something? | 22:03 |
| zaitcev | Hmm. I never thought to consider what happens. Most daemons allow it, unless ran by a user account from the start, because they drop privileges after bind(). | 22:04 |
| clayg | i put proxies on < 1024 in a few supported configs but mostly that's where I've got my ssl terminators | 22:04 |
| clayg | zaitcev: redbo tells me golang can't drop privileges? | 22:04 |
| zaitcev | clayg: I just don't know anything about it, sorry. | 22:05 |
| redbo | Yeah, it's a whole thing about it can't drop privileges in all of its system threads. | 22:05 |
| clayg | i started to read this bug fell asleep -> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/1435 | 22:05 |
| clayg | redbo: neway - i'm just gunna do it in the shim before I execvp | 22:06 |
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| clayg | so by the time you try to bind you're going to be the configured user - so .... like don't set a stupid port | 22:06 |
| clayg | or it probably won't work | 22:06 |
| redbo | Yeah. It kind of sucks. | 22:07 |
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| clayg | redbo: I bet rust does it *perfectly* | 22:08 |
| zaitcev | Socket activation FTW anyway | 22:11 |
| zaitcev | I'd try to support that firs... waaaait a second. All the people who migrate from swift-init | 22:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: fix string formatting in manager https://review.openstack.org/369728 | 22:15 |
| redbo | Probably | 22:15 |
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| redbo | I mean.. we could make swift-init bind the port. | 22:16 |
| redbo | Pass it in on the command line. | 22:16 |
| redbo | That can wait for v2 | 22:17 |
| clayg | redbo: no fuck that | 22:17 |
| clayg | setcap is a thing | 22:17 |
| clayg | or iptables | 22:17 |
| clayg | really I don't care | 22:17 |
| clayg | don't bind your object server to privledged port - this is fine for me | 22:17 |
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| timur_ | I can't reconcile the Swift returned value of Last-Modified Date with the documentation. The documented value is in the ISO-8601 format (e.g. 2015-08-27T09:49:58-05:00). When doing a HEAD on an object, I get back a string like this "Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:38:14 GMT". I'm looking at the documentation here: | 22:43 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/2016/ - nova - Replace more cases of instance ids with uuids (ABANDONED) | 22:43 |
| timur_ | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/object-storage/index.html?expanded=show-object-metadata-detail | 22:43 |
| timur_ | is the documentation wrong or is there a bug in the last-modified date presentation? | 22:43 |
| clayg | those docs anchor links never work for me | 22:45 |
| timur_ | clayg: click on "detail" next to "HEAD" under the Objects section | 22:46 |
| clayg | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/object-storage/index.html?expanded=show-object-metadata-detail#show-object-metadata | 22:46 |
| timur_ | nice! even better | 22:46 |
| timur_ | I'm so confused by this. Like, the documentation contradicts itself? | 22:47 |
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| timur_ | because it lists an example that clearly has a not-ISO-8601 Last-Modified date? | 22:47 |
| timur_ | but then continues to describe the ISO-8601 format in the Response Parameters section | 22:48 |
| clayg | it's also listed twice? | 22:48 |
| timburke | so jlwhite just led me to notice that run_wsgi can leave a lingering child process. if you're in an interactive session and hit ctrl-c, we break out of our loop but never clean up the children -- see https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/2.9.0/swift/common/wsgi.py#L963 | 22:48 |
| timburke | so my question is, should we call kill_children() or hup()? | 22:48 |
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| timur_ | clayg: that's interesting too! "Date" is _also_ documented as ISO 8601 | 22:49 |
| timur_ | (in the Response parameters section) | 22:49 |
| clayg | timburke: neither? the parent process is supposed to be able to exit and leave the children to die when their sockets are closed up | 22:50 |
| clayg | or something | 22:50 |
| clayg | why are we calling run_wsgi interactively - is there a use-case here? | 22:50 |
| timburke | bin/swift-proxy-server | 22:51 |
| timburke | maybe we ought to convert devstack to use swift-init, though | 22:51 |
| timur_ | I realized that I care about this because I need to stuff the date into elastic search and the date format Swift returns by default is not something that it can parse, so I'll need to read it properly (it understands ISO 8601 though) | 22:51 |
| clayg | timur_: just use x-timestamp - you can also file doc bugs if you want | 22:52 |
| clayg | timburke: undoubtably - i had recently discovered that a number of other services in devstack configure and start themselves quite reasonably and then their screen sessions just tail -f /the/path/to/the/logs | 22:53 |
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| timur_ | clayg: yea, seems like a documentation bug. I found the HTTP RFC that defines the HTTP date for the Last-Modified header, so Swift is doing the right thing | 22:56 |
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| clayg | timburke: I still don't really see the problem - i can start `swift-proxy-server /path/to/proxy/config` and ctrl-c terminates all the children | 22:56 |
| notmyname | timur_: IIRC there was some difference between swift and the rfc that broke some clients, so we reverted it. timezone designation or something like that | 22:57 |
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| notmyname | I don't remember. it's faded into myth and legend by now | 22:59 |
| notmyname | "one time, we made a change and clients broke! we had to revert that and swore, 'never again!'. let this be a lesson to you, and pass it on to your children" | 22:59 |
| timur_ | notmyname: ha! ok | 23:01 |
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| notmyname | "in the days of openstack public clouds, when giants roamed the earth..." | 23:01 |
| zaitcev | But it was twice | 23:02 |
| zaitcev | The date format was one, Etag/ETag was the other. | 23:02 |
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| notmyname | oh yeah. the E[Tt]ag one. *sigh* | 23:03 |
| clayg | notmyname: don't forget the xml quotes! | 23:03 |
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| zaitcev | I don't recally that one actually breaking anything, but I can totally believe it. | 23:04 |
| notmyname | "children, listen to me! gather round and learn from our mistakes: you'll never NOT break clients, so just do whatever you think is right" | 23:04 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 23:04 |
| clayg | timur_: do we explictly catch the KeyboardInterblahbalhError? | 23:04 |
| clayg | sorry timburke ^ | 23:04 |
| clayg | cause like if want to blast SIGTERMS out to random processes when running swift proxy interactively in a screen session or whatever else might make devstack happy - like no one would notice or care - no one starts swift like that | 23:05 |
| clayg | timburke: OTOH - if you wanna jump on the make devstack+swift awesome train with me - i'm currently working on https://github.com/swiftstack/vagrant-devstack-all-in-one/issues/1 | 23:06 |
| clayg | it's slow going -> https://gist.github.com/clayg/e0f79ef1c892f617fd4179b2b65a6b34 | 23:06 |
| clayg | i can push up what i have so far tho... | 23:07 |
| timburke | timur_: clayg: that date format thing is a known documentation bug, but it should be fixed Real Soon Now because donagh's great -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354767/ | 23:08 |
| patchbot | patch 354767 - swift - Corrections for the API specifications in api-ref | 23:08 |
| clayg | rofl - it may not look like much - but trust me - everyone single one of those lines is *gold* -> https://github.com/swiftstack/vagrant-devstack-all-in-one/commit/6c45a46dd10bca2814f1385df22f97cd29652031 | 23:08 |
| clayg | yay donagh! | 23:08 |
| clayg | timur_: ^^^ | 23:08 |
| timur_ | great! | 23:09 |
| clayg | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/67/354767/12/check/gate-swift-api-ref/f18f452//api-ref/build/html/?expanded=show-object-metadata-detail#show-object-metadata <- is that better? | 23:09 |
| clayg | still says Last-Modified twice... | 23:09 |
| timur_ | yep! | 23:10 |
| timburke | but at least it has the right format | 23:10 |
| clayg | +1 for effort! | 23:11 |
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| clayg | zaitcev: i get the distinct feeling that hummingbird's replicator doesn't log too much? | 23:24 |
| zaitcev | clayg: Don't ask, I only have "hummingbird object" | 23:25 |
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| clayg | man i sure wish i would fix this -> https://github.com/swiftstack/vagrant-swift-all-in-one/issues/45 | 23:32 |
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| clayg | redbo: damnit - dfg and nadeem are still not in channel! | 23:36 |
| clayg | well, anyway - moving the repconn server to the replicators may have been a terrible idea | 23:40 |
| clayg | it breaks the ability to `swift-init object-replciator once -nv` or however you hummingbird cats you used to spell that | 23:41 |
| clayg | the point is that one daemon can "once" and shutdown before the others are finished with whatever they might need to talk to that server about | 23:41 |
| clayg | not that any of this logs :'( | 23:42 |
| notmyname | unless "once" is defined by "only one time figure out your local work to do and do it". | 23:42 |
| notmyname | but yeah, getting it to still respond to other things in the cluster is important | 23:43 |
| clayg | notmyname: well like we never "stop" rsync | 23:43 |
| notmyname | yeah | 23:43 |
| notmyname | what's the hbird api commend to tell it what parts to process? | 23:44 |
| clayg | but we do have the pre-req on the REPLICATE verb - so all of our probetests do just so happen to assume that the object-server can be running and an replicator once can still "push" to any other node | 23:44 |
| notmyname | commend? is that like "POST /doing/a/great/job/" ? | 23:44 |
| clayg | the api or the command line args? the -partitions arg on the cli (why goland uses single dashes...) is basically the same as the python guys | 23:45 |
| notmyname | what if `swift-init ... once` isn't a thing? but instead we keep the replicators running all the time (ie to respond) but we have something different to tell it what to do? | 23:45 |
| clayg | oh, well maybe - i mean if we have to completly rewrite the probe tests where they can't possibly work with either configuration that'll make it harder - but it could be ok too | 23:46 |
| notmyname | so, fantasy world where we get to invent new things ... what if we had `swift-init start ...` and then swift-ctl or swift-mgr or something to feed the beast | 23:46 |
| notmyname | yeah. everything works just fine as long as we rewrite everything so it doesn't work with the earlier config | 23:46 |
| clayg | yeah i'm just curious about nadeems workflows when he was working on all this | 23:48 |
| clayg | BUT HE'S NOT IN CHANNEL ;) | 23:49 |
| clayg | lol at that one time you forgot to recomplie hummingbird (that *one* time; sigh) | 23:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: fix string formatting in manager https://review.openstack.org/369728 | 23:57 |
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