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| acoles | good morning | 08:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Make tempurl subcommand insist on whole number seconds https://review.openstack.org/367915 | 10:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 10:26 |
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| tdasilva | good morning | 12:49 |
| pdardeau | good morning tdasilva | 12:50 |
| tdasilva | pdardeau: :) | 12:50 |
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| acoles | clayg: this looks reasonable but it's your TODO, what do you think ... patch 367825 | 13:44 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367825/ - swift - delete TODO in test_manager | 13:44 |
| acoles | clayg: and don't say you can't remember, it's only been 5.5 years a a bazillion patches since then :P | 13:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: py3: Port test_splice to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/358528 | 14:02 |
| ntata | good morning | 14:09 |
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| pdardeau | good morning ntata | 14:54 |
| ntata | acoles, thank you for the details on how to run a test multiple times | 14:55 |
| ntata | pdardeau, hello! | 14:55 |
| notmyname | good morning | 14:56 |
| pdardeau | good morning notmyname | 14:57 |
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| notmyname | today I'll be going through starred patches with an eye towards the upcoming release. my goal is to have a smaller set of starred patches. (but I've got to do some event talk prep and I'm sure the ML will continue to stay spicy) | 15:00 |
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| notmyname | ntata: how's oslo.config research coming? any questions yet? | 15:01 |
| notmyname | cschwede: acoles: I have a question for you before you go offiline today | 15:01 |
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| ntata | Well, I've been trying to read about oslo middleware.. unable to get concrete answers on having more than one middleware in the pipeline.. | 15:02 |
| notmyname | ntata: ...or one middleware more than once | 15:02 |
| ntata | sorry, I meant one middleware more than once | 15:02 |
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| notmyname | cschwede: acoles: last night ntata showed me some nice bash scripts for setting up a SAIO that she has. https://github.com/ntata/swift-setup-scripts | 15:03 |
| notmyname | cschwede: acoles: although I haven't gone through it in detail, I'm assuming it's reasonably good (and I love the idea of SAIO bash scripts in our repo). so here's the question: if it were in the swift repo, where should it live? | 15:04 |
| notmyname | I can see it in docs/saio, examples/, or even a new top-level directory | 15:04 |
| notmyname | what do you think? | 15:04 |
| ntata | notmyname, this is what I found for generating multiple conf files using oslo with Sphinx extension.. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/sphinxconfiggen.html#output-file-name | 15:04 |
| notmyname | ntata: is oslo.middleware needed? | 15:04 |
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| ntata | umm.. how would we handle the pipeline section of proxy-server.conf with just oslo config? to my knowledge, oslo config treats everything as a key-value pair | 15:06 |
| notmyname | ntata: is it possible to not deal with oslo-generated config files yet? does it make it easier to assume we manage our own sample files for now? | 15:06 |
| notmyname | ntata: I don't know. that's why i was asking you :-) | 15:06 |
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| notmyname | ntata: let's assume that I don't know how oslo.middleware works or what problem it solves ;-) | 15:08 |
| ntata | well, Ihonestly, I don't have a answers yet for a lot of your questions.. I've got to do more research on both understanding swift's current setup and also research on how or how not to have oslo do somethings for Swift :) | 15:09 |
| notmyname | ntata: ok. let me know if you have other questions that I *can* answer ;-) | 15:10 |
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| ntata | definitely :) | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Donagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift: Corrections for the API specifications in api-ref https://review.openstack.org/354767 | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Donagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift: Corrections for the API specifications in api-ref https://review.openstack.org/354767 | 15:20 |
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| acoles | notmyname: that's a good question (where would such a script live). IDK, a new top-level dir, dev-tools or something? | 15:51 |
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| acoles | notmyname: I have wondered the same because I have a script for setting up the test accounts in keystone. maybe that would fit better under test though. | 15:52 |
| nadeem | good morning | 15:54 |
| notmyname | nadeem: hello | 15:54 |
| notmyname | acoles: ntata: yeah, I'm leaning towards putting it in doc/saio | 15:54 |
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| acoles | notmyname: ntata it's been a while but last time I looked at for example keystone, IIRC, it seemed they still had ini files for wsgi pipeline and filter config, just without any options in each filter section. | 15:55 |
| acoles | notmyname: yeah under docs/saio would make sense | 15:56 |
| nadeem | hello dfg__ what do you think about Repconn next steps? | 15:56 |
| dfg__ | nadeem: hi | 15:56 |
| dfg__ | nadeem: i'm wondering how much work it will be to split out just the replicator stuff into the separate branch. is it worth it? | 15:57 |
| nadeem | I think work will depend on how we want to integrate it with swift-init | 15:58 |
| dfg__ | an alternative is just to not include running it from swift-init. and have that be the dividing line as to what services swift supports | 15:59 |
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| nadeem | clayg notmyname what do you think about that? | 16:00 |
| notmyname | not a fan ;-) | 16:00 |
| dfg__ | why? | 16:00 |
| dfg__ | its all one binary | 16:00 |
| dfg__ | either way | 16:00 |
| notmyname | or rather, I *really* like the idea of `swift-init object-replicator restart` and it Just Works | 16:00 |
| acoles | notmyname: ntata </random thought> way back when i looked at oslo.config I wondered if it would be possible to teach oslo.config to parse Swift's existing .ini files' [filter:<x>] sections for options for <x>. IIRC that would mean teaching it to ignore the "filter:" part of each section name as it parses conf files.. | 16:01 |
| dfg__ | its just whether we split out code for non technical reasons or not | 16:01 |
| notmyname | but I compltely confess to suffering from a lack of info on the best way to do golang stuff | 16:01 |
| nadeem | notmyname, dfg, clayg and everyone do we wanna talk about it on vidyo? | 16:02 |
| notmyname | nadeem: yeah. I was just wanting to set something up. don't know if it should be right now or scheduled for monday, though | 16:02 |
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| notmyname | I'm not sure if clayg is around yet, though | 16:03 |
| nadeem | oh ok...I am on vacation on next monday/tuesday. | 16:03 |
| notmyname | hmm | 16:03 |
| tdasilva | acoles, notmyname, ntata: is there a preference for bash scripts over say ansible scripts? | 16:04 |
| nadeem | however I do think talking via video chat would be much better. | 16:04 |
| notmyname | I just chatted with clay | 16:06 |
| notmyname | we could do a chat in about 30 mins for about an hour (max). otherwise, not today. however, that means that if acoles wants to join in, it will be late | 16:07 |
| ntata | acoles, I'll look into the oslo config parsing .ini files | 16:07 |
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| ntata | tdasilva, I just think for a newbie, bash will be an easier start than an ansible script | 16:08 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: IMO bash is simpler, no dependencies, works on a bare box, self-contained. | 16:08 |
| tdasilva | ntata, notmyname: what I like about the ansible script is that you can point to any other machine (like a VM) and have it run there as opposed to the local | 16:09 |
| acoles | ntata: great, but be aware that i could be talking complete rubbish :) | 16:10 |
| notmyname | ntata: acoles: my goal is to know if swift using oslo.config is a 3 week project or a 3 year project and what sort of typing needs to go into each project to handle the various questions around that transition (swift's needs, migrations, upgrades, etc) | 16:11 |
| ntata | acoles, trust me, I'm totally lost in both oslo and swift worlds | 16:11 |
| acoles | I agree that bash could be an easier start point, but I have an SAIO install bash script and its a pain to deal with things failing part way and you being left with a partial install to recover from, which is what a good ansible playbook is designed to cope with | 16:11 |
| notmyname | ntata: acoles: and then to either make it happen or write down specifics about what would need to happen first (or reasons not to) | 16:11 |
| acoles | ntata: well at least in the swift world you have friends (who may also be lost ;) | 16:12 |
| dfg__ | notmyname: ya i'm fine with that. so like 11:30 CST ? | 16:12 |
| notmyname | dfg__: ya | 16:12 |
| dfg__ | ok | 16:12 |
| ahale_ | wow and i thought i was cool with one _ on my name | 16:14 |
| notmyname | ahale_: you were. but now dfg__ is double cooler than you | 16:16 |
| ahale_ | yeah as always | 16:17 |
| notmyname | acoles: want to stick around and chat about golang? I realize it's already after 5 on a friday for you | 16:17 |
| acoles | notmyname: soon? I could join for a while but would probably need to leave | 16:18 |
| notmyname | ahale_: in about 11 minutes (or whenever dfg__/nadeem give us a link) | 16:19 |
| ahale_ | acoles: ^^ | 16:20 |
| notmyname | thank :-) | 16:20 |
| notmyname | a<tab> fail | 16:20 |
| acoles | notmyname: re conf, goal makes sense. huh, I have a branch in my swift repo called oslo-config from August 2014 | 16:20 |
| acoles | notmyname: ok | 16:20 |
| acoles | ahale_: good spot thank you | 16:20 |
| notmyname | acoles: which is where you got your answers for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_gap_scratchpad (read this, ntata) | 16:21 |
| acoles | ahale_: award yourself another _ :) | 16:21 |
| ahale_ | operators always have to be diligent against developer oops in the openstack world ;) | 16:21 |
| notmyname | lol | 16:21 |
| nadeem | notmyname dfg: http://paste.openstack.org/show/NXZET9PiT0feOaiOV5p0/ | 16:22 |
| acoles | notmyname: hmmm, not even sure what my branch was attempting, there's not much there. I will post to a gist for ntata anyway. | 16:22 |
| nadeem | meeting invite ^ | 16:22 |
| notmyname | nadeem: thanks | 16:23 |
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| acoles | ntata: I doubt this is of any use since I don't even remember what I was trying to do, but it does at least confirm that I thought about reading swift conf files into oslo.config instance - https://gist.github.com/alistairncoles/5d1662059dc8a4d1f64743169780589f | 16:25 |
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| notmyname | acoles: cschwede: tdasilva: if you want to talk about the golang branch and where/how to split it, please see nadeem's pastebin and join in | 16:29 |
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| acoles | notmyname: got it | 16:31 |
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| clayg | acoles: are you there!? | 16:52 |
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| ntata | notmyname, acoles : I'll build on your discussions. Sorry, was AFK for a meeting | 17:15 |
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| redbo | Actually, here's my container server benchmarks. http://paste.openstack.org/show/570289/ The weird bits are the swift 99% on GETs - there are always a few requests that don't complete until the whole benchmark is done and they drag the mean way down. I think swift probably has a file lock problem somewhere. Then the hummingbird median GET is a little better, but it has way more variance in request times, so swift beats it at 85%-95%. I haven't been | 17:32 |
| notmyname | redbo: is that with your rocksdb thing? | 17:41 |
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| redbo | That's with sqlite. I wrote a boltdb backend, and it starts off promisingly fast, but the write amplification is really bad after ~a million objects. I have a rocksdb version started, but the bindings don't want to compile and I haven't dug into it yet. | 17:48 |
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| notmyname | ah ok | 17:54 |
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| notmyname | nadeem just left! get that man a bouncer | 17:55 |
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| notmyname | nadeem is back! | 17:56 |
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| notmyname | FYI https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 18:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: Symlink implementation. https://review.openstack.org/232162 | 19:55 |
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