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| kota_ | Hell | 02:21 |
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| kota_ | tyhoon has come to Tokyo so staying at home | 02:22 |
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| notmyname | kota_: yikes. https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/japan-tropical-storm-mindulle-lionrock-kompasu | 02:24 |
| notmyname | not one, but three | 02:24 |
| notmyname | kota_: stay safe | 02:24 |
| kota_ | notmyname: yeah but i think one is now at Tokyo and the others are heading for far so maybe it'll be fine by this night | 02:27 |
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| mahatic | good morning | 04:52 |
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| mahatic | notmyname: helpful info on rolling upgrades, thanks! one more question, once we do Swift (standalone) rolling upgrades test, can we be assured of the same results for a swift rolling upgrades test within an OpenStack environment? | 05:03 |
| mahatic | Or would we need to do check a few more things if it's in an OpenStack environment? | 05:03 |
| mahatic | need to check* | 05:03 |
| notmyname | mahatic: well, yes and no | 05:03 |
| notmyname | ultimately, yes. because a prod environment will have a lot of pieces and you gotta make sure they're all good | 05:04 |
| notmyname | but also "no" in that, if all the pieces are holding to their API and staying self-contained, then it *should* work | 05:04 |
| notmyname | of course "should" is why we test | 05:05 |
| notmyname | but what I mean is that if you're monitoring with ceilometer and doing auth with keystone, then it's important to make sure they are upgraded too | 05:05 |
| mahatic | you mean we gotta make sure explicitly it works in an openstack environment? | 05:05 |
| notmyname | but what we're responsible for as the swift team is making sure our upgrades work and things still work together | 05:06 |
| notmyname | so I guess the answer depends on what you're trying to do | 05:06 |
| notmyname | if it's something around prod deployments, then test everything. if it's about openstack gating, then test just swift | 05:06 |
| notmyname | (i think) | 05:06 |
| mahatic | yes production deployments | 05:07 |
| mahatic | notmyname: thanks! that is helpful | 05:12 |
| notmyname | then yeah, checking that eg keystone and swift still work together is important | 05:12 |
| notmyname | but that's already covered in the gate, I think | 05:12 |
| mahatic | okay | 05:13 |
| notmyname | the grenade tests, IIRC, test that swift and keystone still work together (and other projects. it's the full "test all of devstack" suite) | 05:14 |
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| mahatic | notmyname: yeah I thought so too, but we were wondering if that is updated enough (for a few projects it is not) | 05:20 |
| mahatic | that being grenade | 05:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joel Wright proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Add copy object method https://review.openstack.org/280200 | 08:06 |
| joeljwright | morning | 08:07 |
| joeljwright | :) | 08:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: py3: tox.ini: use substituation to py35 commands https://review.openstack.org/358527 | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: py3: Port test_splice to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/358528 | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: py3: port memcached client to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/358529 | 10:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Donagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift: Corrections for the API specifications in api-ref https://review.openstack.org/354767 | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Donagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift: Corrections for the API specifications in api-ref https://review.openstack.org/354767 | 14:18 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:05 |
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| notmyname | this week I'll be traveling to NYC. tomorrow and wednesday is OpenStack East, and on Thurs-Fri is the ops midcycle meetup | 15:09 |
| notmyname | I'll be on-and-off in IRC, but ping me if I can do anything for you and I'll get back to you asap | 15:10 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: in the midst of travel this week, I'm planning on a serious look at swiftclient for a release | 15:10 |
| joeljwright | notmyname: timburke and I have been trying to get this copy patch into shape | 15:11 |
| notmyname | yep, I saw that :-) | 15:11 |
| joeljwright | I'll speak to him later about any other pacthes we need to land | 15:11 |
| joeljwright | enjoy NYC | 15:11 |
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| timburke | either it was eerily quiet all weekend, or my bouncer didn't do its job very well :( | 16:13 |
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| joeljwright | timburke: cheers for the comments | 17:24 |
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| joeljwright | timburke: I did make a version of the copy patch that required container and object to be set, but I felt like I was changing things too much. Your comments have made me reconsider - I'll throw up another updated version later. | 17:25 |
| joeljwright | timburke: and I'll keep adding tests as I go :D | 17:26 |
| timburke | joeljwright: cool, thanks. that just seems like a better api to me | 17:26 |
| joeljwright | yeah, me too tbh | 17:26 |
| joeljwright | I had the patch all ready | 17:26 |
| timburke | makes it easier :-) | 17:26 |
| joeljwright | I just decided against it when I was checking out teh other methods that follow teh patterm Marek used | 17:27 |
| joeljwright | it will certainly clean up that horrible URL parsing logic | 17:27 |
| joeljwright | I was thinking I wanted you to dissuade me from that approach while I was writing it :) | 17:27 |
| joeljwright | you should have a new version to look at in 3 or 4 hours time | 17:28 |
| timburke | happy to be a source of dissuasion :P | 17:28 |
| joeljwright | :D | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack/swift: WIP Investigating Account ACL https://review.openstack.org/356715 | 18:16 |
| tqtran | hello, if i wanted to add tests to the patch above, where is the best place to put them? seems like we have tests for ACL but they only cover general http cases, not whether a certain user actually has access based on their ACL or not. | 18:19 |
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| tqtran | is this the best place? https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/test/functional/test_access_control.py | 18:20 |
| clayg | tqtran: idk, there's some stuff in functional/test_(account|container).py too? | 18:43 |
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| tqtran | clayg: thanks for the pointer, i'll take a look. | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohit Motiani proposed openstack/swift: Add regions and zones in ring-builder.py https://review.openstack.org/350625 | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohit Motiani proposed openstack/swift: Fix typos and grammer in builder.py https://review.openstack.org/358825 | 19:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Fix typos and grammer in builder.py https://review.openstack.org/358825 | 19:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: py3: port memcached client to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/358529 | 20:11 |
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| zaitcev | Does anyone else see Hummingbird mysteriously refusing to log (to syslog or anywhere else)? | 20:18 |
| clayg | that sounds vaugly familiar | 20:18 |
| zaitcev | If you didn't positively identify and fix it, I'll have a look then | 20:19 |
| clayg | zaitcev: I had to do this one time -> https://github.com/swiftstack/vagrant-swift-all-in-one/commit/97dfbcb1484792fbf375ba83886e7e233ff530e8 | 20:19 |
| zaitcev | oooh | 20:20 |
| timburke | torgomatic: i've been thinking a bit about bug 1598093 today; looks like it affects SLOs, too. what's you opinion on whether SegmentedIterable should expect quoted segment paths vs. doing the quoting itself? i figured your work that led to patch 352657 might be a nice third data-point | 21:07 |
| openstack | bug 1598093 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Dynamic Large Object does not work with "?" in prefix" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598093 | 21:07 |
| timburke | ah, looks like patchbot isn't here. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352657/ - the multi-range GET for SLO guy | 21:08 |
| torgomatic | timburke: SegmentedIterable is just gonna take whatever it's given and jam it into PATH_INFO in a subrequest, and I think WSGI says that PATH_INFO is unquoted | 21:10 |
| torgomatic | so I'd expect unquoted things; after all, we're talking to the proxy server via function calls, not network requests, so we ideally don't have any escaping going on | 21:10 |
| clayg | isn't there a unix-ism about doing decode/encode close to wire/disk? | 21:12 |
| clayg | i.e. "Agree with torgomatic - it's almost always the right call" | 21:13 |
| torgomatic | timburke: heh, this is lame... SegmentedIterable sticks the query string onto the path so it can call make_subrequest(), which splits the path on ? to get the query string back out :| | 21:13 |
| timburke | torgomatic: ah! there's the stupid. thanks | 21:14 |
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| timburke | torgomatic: although...which seems less bad? let make_subrequest grow a query_string arg (which, if present, should maybe prevent us from unquoting path), or just have SegmentedIterable pass in quoted paths as make_subrequest has documented? seems like there's a lot of quoting/unquoting pretty much no matter what :-/ | 21:18 |
| torgomatic | timburke: so I guess in this case, it's a failing of the DLO middleware to pass that thing into make_subrequest in the right way for it to end up in just PATH_INFO | 21:18 |
| torgomatic | timburke: I like having make_subrequest() take a query string. I just looked at all the call sites, and they either (a) don't even mention query strings, or (b) stick a hardcoded query string onto the path | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:30 |
| zaitcev | Gius, who's our encription person? jrichli? | 21:35 |
| mattoliverau | zaitcev: yup | 21:36 |
| jrichli | yo | 21:36 |
| jrichli | i gotta catchup with scrollback | 21:37 |
| clayg | zaitcev: or acoles_ timburke or tdasilva - you can use me in a pinch - i'm pretty sure I understand the swift parts anyway | 21:37 |
| zaitcev | jrichli: https://github.com/openstack/swift/blame/master/doc/source/overview_encryption.rst#L72 says "encryption" in the pipeline, but isn't it encrypter and decrypter now? | 21:37 |
| jrichli | that is the correct thing to add to the pipeline. that was one of the later changes | 21:38 |
| clayg | look at the docs being all correct and shiz ;) | 21:39 |
| jrichli | the middleware files are still called decrypter and encrypter, but you use encrtyption in the pipeline | 21:39 |
| zaitcev | "that" being what's documented? etc/proxy-server.conf-sample too? | 21:39 |
| zaitcev | jrichli: thanks | 21:39 |
| torgomatic | timburke: check out https://gist.github.com/smerritt/ca5a6701d46c55b43059e4d0e302c2f9 for a first pass at cleaning up the query string crud | 21:47 |
| torgomatic | I'm suspicious that it might fix bug 1598093 as wel, but I haven't tried it. | 21:47 |
| openstack | bug 1598093 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Dynamic Large Object does not work with "?" in prefix" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598093 - Assigned to Tim Burke (1-tim-z) | 21:47 |
| timburke | torgomatic: thanks! | 21:51 |
| clayg | torgomatic: timburke: so it's a good idea that make_subrequest and make_env have different ideas about the quotedness of path? | 21:57 |
| torgomatic | clayg: it's like a balloon filled with stupid... I push down over here, but it just pops up more over there | 21:58 |
| torgomatic | (but no, that's confusing and will lead to people getting it wrong) | 21:59 |
| clayg | torgomatic: I think blank would get confused/mad if you give if quoted path's btw | 21:59 |
| clayg | from docstring on swob.Request.blank -> :param path: encoded, parsed, and unquoted into PATH_INFO | 21:59 |
| clayg | i don't really know what it means by "parsed" - but I'm pretty sure encoded and unquoted both mean things to me | 21:59 |
| clayg | and one of them matches with how I sorta think make_env works - but I'm not sure what the WSGI spec says about encoding - probably that it's assumed some sort of encoded byte string (utf8?) because nothing else makes sense in python2? | 22:01 |
| timburke | clayg: apparently it means https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/2.9.0/swift/common/swob.py#L832 -- so i guess we can even say something like 'http://saio:8080/v1/...' !? | 22:02 |
| clayg | timburke: that seems like a weird convience because we use blank mostly in tests? | 22:03 |
| timburke | clayg: i'm fairly certain wsgi assumes all non-body bytes are latin-1 :-/ | 22:04 |
| timburke | which led us to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348322/5/swift/common/header_key_dict.py | 22:04 |
| torgomatic | clayg: Request.blank() takes quoted paths, so "/with%spaces" turns into PATH_INFO: "/with spaces" | 22:05 |
| clayg | oh dear goodness | 22:05 |
| torgomatic | er, that's %20, but you know what i mean | 22:06 |
| clayg | torgomatic: lol - you're right! when the doc string says "unquoted" - it means "totally fucking quoted because https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/common/swob.py#L847" | 22:07 |
| timburke | clayg: 'cause describing what you're going to do to the argument is a sane way to write docstrings... | 22:08 |
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| clayg | timburke: oh rofl - sorry yeah I read it wrong | 22:13 |
| clayg | "this argument will be ..." - oh man I sure hope I wrote that | 22:13 |
| timburke | *totally* sane. why wouldn't you write it that way? | 22:14 |
| clayg | 27c7abfb - YES! | 22:14 |
| timburke | lol | 22:14 |
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| clayg | i guess the weird thing about most strings is that unquote tends to converge eventually - so you can mostly unqote unquoted strings and it pretty rarely does the wrong thing for you | 22:17 |
| clayg | "did you really *want* "%20" - better quote that noise" | 22:18 |
| timburke | yup. only a problem if you want a literal %xx in there, which tends to be unlikely | 22:19 |
| clayg | wild | 22:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joel Wright proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Add copy object method https://review.openstack.org/280200 | 22:34 |
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| clayg | wow patch 280200 is huge! next time we try to do this we should remember to start with just the client stuff - then the service stuff - then the shell stuff - the scope of that change is a beast! | 22:41 |
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| clayg | timburke: where's patchbot? is this something notmyname normally fixes? | 22:44 |
| timburke | clayg: yeah; i think it's the same reason that https://not.mn/swift/swift_community_dashboard.html is currently down | 22:45 |
| clayg | notmyname: we're hopelessly lost without you - please hear our woes | 22:46 |
| * clayg expects notmyname in an airplane now -> http://www.aidthoughts.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/obiwan.png | 22:47 | |
| clayg | a disturbance in the #openstack-swift | 22:48 |
| klrmn | timburke: clayg: he's moved the dashboard to http://d.not.mn/swift_community_dashboard.html | 22:48 |
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| mattoliverau | notmyname's server has issues over the weekend | 22:55 |
| mattoliverau | he does have http://d.not.mn/swift_community_dashboard.html for the dashboard | 22:55 |
| mattoliverau | klrmn beat me too it :P | 22:56 |
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