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| timburke | yup! | 00:35 |
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| timburke | in retrospect, versioned_writes probably should have just been a stand-alone project :-( | 00:36 |
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| kota_ | good morning | 00:58 |
| kota_ | typhoon has passed so it becomes so hot day. | 00:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Don't run probe tests if resetswift failed https://review.openstack.org/355687 | 01:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | zheng yin proposed openstack/swift: fix AccountReaper and unit test https://review.openstack.org/354048 | 01:44 |
| zhengyin | good morning everyone | 01:49 |
| csmart | notmyname: are you planning on going to barcelona? | 01:51 |
| zhengyin | kota_, timburke, acoles_:good morning | 01:52 |
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| notmyname | csmart: yep, I'll be there | 02:50 |
| csmart | notmyname: sweet, just weighing up if I should find the money to send myself, and mattoliverau isn't sure if he's going yet | 02:51 |
| mattoliverau | zhengyin: morning | 02:52 |
| notmyname | csmart: my frankfurt transfer time is pretty short, but people on the internet tell me it should be fine (thanks for reminding me to check!) | 02:55 |
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| * csmart is here to inadvertently serve | 02:55 | |
| notmyname | csmart: not sure what I'd do without you ;-) | 02:57 |
| csmart | I know, right! :-P | 02:57 |
| notmyname | I went to the first day of IDF today (http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intel-developer-forum-idf/san-francisco/2016/idf-2016-san-francisco.html) | 02:58 |
| notmyname | last year I got a free galileo board (arduino pin out, but has a 586 chip running yocto linux) | 02:58 |
| notmyname | this year I got a piece of paper and coper tape and an LED that you can fold up to turn on the LED. wheeee | 02:59 |
| csmart | hehe | 02:59 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 03:00 |
| jrichli | notmyname: a piece of paper :-/ mattoliverau: might not go to Barcelona, what's up with that? | 03:01 |
| jrichli | found out the person who setup my bouncer (and owns the account for that machine) is leaving the company. :-( | 03:03 |
| mattoliverau | jrichli: I want to, and I hope too.. but I have to wait for the papers to be announced cause people talking are the in line to go.. then hopefully I'll make the next round.. so I'm just playing the waiting game. | 03:04 |
| mattoliverau | *are the next in line to go | 03:04 |
| jrichli | i know what thats like. | 03:05 |
| mattoliverau | jrichli: there not taking the machine with them are they? | 03:05 |
| mattoliverau | jrichli: oh the account it's running on is there account too.. cause then bugger | 03:06 |
| jrichli | well, its a machine ordered from Softlayer. so, I might be able to just keep using it. The overriding account is a different org, though | 03:06 |
| mattoliverau | jrichli: if you suddenly disapear some time in the future we'll assume your bouncers gone :P | 03:07 |
| jrichli | that will probably be a good assumption! :-p | 03:07 |
| * mattoliverau is going to go walk on the beach, its lunchtime and such a beautiful day today. bbs | 03:09 | |
| jrichli | mattoliverau: sounds great! I was actually glad that we have gotten nearly flooded lately, just because it's not so hot outside. | 03:10 |
| mattoliverau | Well it's winter here and a lovely 76ish on your crazy temp scale (based of my fuzzy maths in my head) | 03:12 |
| mattoliverau | Oh and sunny | 03:13 |
| jrichli | awesome ... | 03:13 |
| mattoliverau | But probably not where csmart is.. Cause he's in Canberra where no doubt it's cold | 03:13 |
| notmyname | jrichli: znc is pretty easy to set up if you end up having to run your own irc bouncer | 03:14 |
| csmart | pfft it's a balmy 14 degrees C at the moment | 03:14 |
| mattoliverau | 23 or something here | 03:15 |
| jrichli | notmyname: yeah, that is what I have been told. this might make learning about it pop to the top of my queue :-) | 03:15 |
| notmyname | csmart: same as for me | 03:16 |
| notmyname | csmart: you're in canberra, right? | 03:16 |
| csmart | notmyname: yes, Sir! I try to stay away from mattoliverau as much as possible | 03:17 |
| csmart | :-) | 03:17 |
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| notmyname | csmart: based on him going to melbourne and now a swanky beach house, I think you're the one losing here | 03:17 |
| * csmart sucks his thumb and cries | 03:18 | |
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| notmyname | csmart: why didn't you go get a beach house and he stays in canberra? | 03:18 |
| csmart | notmyname: exactly | 03:19 |
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| mattoliverau | Why doesn't csmart by a beach house and come live here.. That would be awesome! | 03:19 |
| mattoliverau | *buy | 03:19 |
| * csmart wishes! | 03:19 | |
| csmart | ahh, I mean.. ahh, the beach sucks and why would I want to live there | 03:19 |
| mattoliverau | Lol | 03:19 |
| csmart | yeah that's what I tell myself | 03:19 |
| mattoliverau | Yup, sure does (says Matt while wading in the sea) :p | 03:20 |
| notmyname | csmart: maybe if we keep this up, we'll make him drop his phone in the water. that'll show him! | 03:20 |
| mattoliverau | Lol, like that would ha | 03:21 |
| * csmart totally pictures mattoliverau just beyond the break, floating on a raft typing away on a laptop | 03:21 | |
| * mattoliverau needs a waterproof laptop | 03:22 | |
| notmyname | in barca: mattoliverau says, "I had a truly elegant solution to container sharding, and then a wave took it all out" | 03:22 |
| csmart | lol | 03:22 |
| csmart | well, at least in Canberra I don't have that annoying sound of the waves crashing on the beach to and keep me awake at night and during the day I'm shaded by buildings instead of green trees. all that fresh air has gotta be bad for you, anyway | 03:23 |
| mattoliverau | It's a kin to a dog ate my homework | 03:23 |
| notmyname | of course, being australia, there were some sharks, box jellyfish, and blue-ring octopuses too. and he was in the water because he was escaping the terrifying land preditors | 03:23 |
| csmart | hehe | 03:23 |
| mattoliverau | Thats why I'm in the water.. It's true | 03:23 |
| * csmart helps crocodiles adapt to cold water | 03:23 | |
| notmyname | drop bears. terrifying | 03:23 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah and drop bears are great swimmers too! | 03:24 |
| csmart | maybe that's why there are no crocodiles that far south | 03:24 |
| mattoliverau | Lol | 03:24 |
| notmyname | will their reign of terror never end? | 03:25 |
| csmart | they'll probably just be replaced by flying platypi with sharp teeth | 03:25 |
| mattoliverau | Then there will be no hope, even the US would be in reach | 03:26 |
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| notmyname | for today's episode in non-euclidean geometry is weird, you can swim in a straight line from new york to the southern coast of australia | 03:28 |
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| jrichli | hmm ... platypi-nado | 03:29 |
| notmyname | http://metrocosm.com/whats-across-the-ocean/ | 03:30 |
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| mattoliverau | notmyname: wow, next time your in new York you could swim to Perth! I wonder if you swim from California you might end up here at my beach | 03:35 |
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| csmart | OMG, the drop bears could reach continental USA | 03:37 |
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| mattoliverau | for those vim users out there, this is pretty cool, make git + vimdiff better by putting all files in different tabs, rather then serial 1 files side by side at a time: https://github.com/frutiger/git-vimdiff | 04:56 |
| mattoliverau | clayg: ^^ | 04:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Janie Richling proposed openstack/swift: Allow DLO manifest to be updated when using post-as-copy https://review.openstack.org/356239 | 05:58 |
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| zaitcev | Mother of God, I've never heard of namedtuple until Tim used it | 06:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Janie Richling proposed openstack/swift: WIP: Allow DLO manifest to be updated when using post-as-copy https://review.openstack.org/356239 | 06:27 |
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| clayg | zaitcev - you really wannt freak out go look at the *implementation* of namedtuple! | 06:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Wait for a non-empty chunk in WSGIContext._app_call https://review.openstack.org/354540 | 08:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | zheng yin proposed openstack/swift: Remove unnecessary variable https://review.openstack.org/356402 | 11:33 |
| openstackgerrit | zheng yin proposed openstack/swift: Remove unnecessary variable https://review.openstack.org/356402 | 11:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Add Pros/Cons docs for global cluster consideration https://review.openstack.org/304382 | 11:52 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:58 |
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| notmyname | compare the Nov 2014 headline on http://www.computerworld.com/article/2852233/want-a-100tb-disk-drive-youll-have-to-wait-til-2025.html with the Aug 2016 headline on http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/10/toshiba_100tb_qlc_ssd/ | 16:23 |
| notmyname | and then tremble when you think about 84 100TB drives in one box and having to deal with stuff like auditing, replication, or even just trying to fill it up ;-) | 16:24 |
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| clayg | 100TBDRIVESOMGWFTFBBQQ1!!1 | 16:47 |
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| clayg | notmyname: I think that earlier article missed the fact that flash storage was going to leapfrog that old mechanical junk | 16:54 |
| clayg | notmyname: also if seagate announced a 60TB SSD months ago how come the biggest one I can buy on newegg is only like 3TB - total bollocks | 16:54 |
| notmyname | wasn't the 60TB (seagate) on a monday and the 100TB (toshiba) on a thursday? I thought it was totally corporate competing press releases | 16:55 |
| clayg | oic - so your point is this nonsense is removed from my reality | 16:59 |
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| notmyname | no, I'm just amazed at "10 years until X" and then 2 years later, X is released | 17:00 |
| clayg | heh | 17:00 |
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| pdardeau | notmyname: maybe it's part of a new strategy to under-promise and over-deliver | 17:03 |
| notmyname | pdardeau: with marketing departments involved, I doubt that | 17:03 |
| notmyname | :-) | 17:03 |
| acoles | pdardeau: under-promise and under-deliver has always been my strategy ;) | 17:04 |
| pdardeau | acoles: i like it! :) | 17:05 |
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| clayg | is it just tests that required the type cohersion in the account backend on patch 345520 or we commonly compare float records with string rows? | 17:11 |
| patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345520/ - swift - py3: Fixes encoding and type error | 17:11 |
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| clayg | it is so nuts how difficult it *still* is to debug a keystone service token mis-configuration | 18:16 |
| clayg | notmyname: I think if we used olso.config and oslo.logging this would be better by now - i'm *pretty* sure that's true | 18:16 |
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| notmyname | probably | 18:17 |
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| clayg | gah, obs i needed `keystone user-role-add --user=demo --tenant=demo --role=admin`; how could i have been so careless | 18:20 |
| clayg | /usr/bin/python: No module named ensurepip | 18:22 |
| clayg | ^ you a LIAR glyph! | 18:22 |
| clayg | gd, swift-bench - how do you specify tenent then!? | 18:25 |
| clayg | so stupid, 'demo:demo' | 18:27 |
| notmyname | clayg: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/Everything_is_Terrible!.jpg ? | 18:28 |
| clayg | apparently Alan Cox has a popular quote about this phenomenon | 18:31 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The volume for logs.openstack.org filled up rather suddenly, causing a number of jobs to fail with a POST_FAILURE result and no logs; we're manually expiring some logs now to buy breathing room, but any changes which hit that in the past few minutes will need to be rechecked and/or approved again | 19:46 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed openstack/swift: Add support to increase object ring partition power https://review.openstack.org/337297 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed openstack/swift: Add support to increase object ring partition power https://review.openstack.org/337297 | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Support multi-range GETs for static large objects. https://review.openstack.org/352657 | 20:32 |
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| torgomatic | timburke: ^^ fixed the issues that I could reproduce, left notes about the other one | 20:50 |
| mattoliverau | Morning | 20:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thai Tran proposed openstack/swift: WIP Investigating Account ACL https://review.openstack.org/356715 | 20:58 |
| notmyname | meeting time in #openstack-meeting | 20:59 |
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| acoles | clayg: re patch 345520 my suspicion is that it is only tests that pass int/float timestamps to that code and real callers pass strings | 21:01 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345520/ - swift - py3: Fixes encoding and type error | 21:01 |
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| acoles | clayg: so the type coercion might just be there for tests, ...or if there exists a db row with a number in it | 21:02 |
| csmart | mattoliverau: \o | 21:06 |
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| mattoliverau | csmart: o/ hey man | 21:07 |
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| clayg | the -H 'x-storage-policy:ec' thing sounds annoying? | 21:51 |
| timburke | clayg: yeah, swifterdarrell spotted it | 21:51 |
| clayg | acoles: can't believe you managed to get all the tests in place for .druable drop - all our filesystems thank you | 21:52 |
| kota_ | woops, my alarm has got silence mode since vacation... | 21:55 |
| clayg | HLS == http *live* streaming !? | 21:55 |
| clayg | oh, it's not live | 21:56 |
| clayg | wtf - what's the difference between HLS and good ol' http pseudo streaming? | 21:56 |
| notmyname | clayg: scott (here in the office) knows all about and has been using it in the past | 21:58 |
| * mattoliverau goes to find breakfast bbs | 21:58 | |
| clayg | interesting so hls has some adapative shit built in - whoopty doo - you people just need to get better internet connections so we don't have to keep writing new code | 22:00 |
| mattoliverau | sorry clayg :P | 22:01 |
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| clayg | gah, as if I want to go read a bunch of crappy ietf drafts for a new damn protocol :'( | 22:01 |
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| acoles | notmyname: seems like as we land py3 patches we may notice things that will need to be fixed for py3 to ever work. does it sound reasonable to use launchpad bugs to track that stuff, with a py3 tag. For example this will need to be fixed at some point https://review.openstack.org/347498 plus timburke I'm sure is aware of other stuff. | 22:03 |
| clayg | acoles: why do we need lp then? just tell timburke about it? | 22:03 |
| acoles | clayg: lol. you saw how I lured timburke into paying attention :P | 22:04 |
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| notmyname | acoles: yeah, we need to somehow need to track what's left to do on py3 | 22:05 |
| notmyname | and LP is reasonable to use | 22:05 |
| acoles | notmyname: trello is an alternative but it feels like at this stage we just need to start recording issues so I favour LP | 22:06 |
| * csmart puts the coffee machine on | 22:07 | |
| notmyname | acoles: right, and I strongly suspect the TC will be looking over our shoulder on this | 22:07 |
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| acoles | notmyname: orly? ;) | 22:07 |
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| notmyname | acoles: I know. shocking, right? | 22:07 |
| acoles | notmyname: patch 347498 woke me up to this - I can imagine someone spending a long time in future trying to debug a failing func test because email isn't monkey patched. | 22:08 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347498/ - swift - monkey_patch_mimetools() now does nothing on py3 | 22:08 |
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| timburke | hey, yeah! the mimetools thing! yeah, that's messy. when i was just gunning for "proxy-server can start under py3" i did basically the same thing as victor | 22:10 |
| timburke | acoles: maybe the solution (at least here) is to add a note to the functest like "hey, this is probably going to fail when we try to run functests under py3! here's why..." | 22:11 |
| acoles | timburke: yeah, I came round to accepting that we can't fix everything up front, but I'm pretty keen we document what we know is broken. | 22:11 |
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| acoles | timburke: maybe. But that has overhead of a patch/review cycle. LP bug is lower cost. We would need to remember to check LP for "py3" bugs. | 22:14 |
| acoles | maybe this will be the only one! | 22:15 |
| * acoles is momentarily wildly optimistic | 22:15 | |
| clayg | i thought there was something about swift-hash-prefix encoding or something | 22:21 |
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| acoles | clayg: yeah, me too | 22:23 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah, that's a big deal | 22:23 |
| notmyname | IIRC we'd talked about doing some sort of base64 option | 22:24 |
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| notmyname | but yeah, right now we technically support having characters (bytes?) in the hasp preffix/suffix that can't be parsed in py3 | 22:24 |
| notmyname | although we recommend against it | 22:24 |
| notmyname | so I think the best option so far is to add a base64_has_[pre|suf]fix option | 22:25 |
| timburke | acoles: lol you're funny | 22:25 |
| notmyname | or maybe we should just have a release that migrates everyone to a base64 version and that's what we use forever and always? | 22:26 |
| notmyname | clayg: I think this is where you tell me that if we'd already started using oslo.config we wouldn't have this issue | 22:26 |
| notmyname | (technically, it would be someone else's problem) | 22:27 |
| clayg | notmyname: we should probably just introduce new options, then you can write out configs with both before you upgrade | 22:27 |
| timburke | clayg: acoles: i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347266/ might actually be enough? if not, there's at least *something* we can do with latin-1 encodings | 22:28 |
| patchbot | timburke: patch 347266 - swift - Port hash_path() to Python 3 | 22:28 |
| clayg | eventaully we'll be like acacahcaphcaph you used to write them *not* base64 encoded - that's weird | 22:28 |
| timburke | (at least, enough to get us over the hash problem) | 22:28 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah, that's what I was thinking. or one step further and if we see no base64 we alert on it and give the new config line, and if we see both we check they match | 22:28 |
| clayg | my point was just that a) it's a py3 issue thingy and b) olso.config would solve this while mixing us a nice rye cocktail | 22:29 |
| notmyname | timburke: oh yeah. latin-1 | 22:29 |
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| acoles | notmyname: turns out we already had a "python3" tag so I just made it "official" (wow, I never knew I had the power to make a tag official!) | 22:30 |
| acoles | and filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1614289 | 22:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1614289 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "py3: default request content-type should be forced to None" [Low,New] | 22:30 |
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| acoles | let's try to remember to use that tag | 22:30 |
| acoles | g'night | 22:32 |
| timburke | clayg: notmyname: while i was waiting for my flight back from SAT i came up with https://github.com/tipabu/swift/blob/py3-proxy/swift/common/config_parser.py as a maybe-useful thing, but the patch i linked seems reasonable at a glance? | 22:32 |
| timburke | good night acoles | 22:32 |
| jrichli | acoles: g'night! | 22:32 |
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| timburke | i guess one nice thing about having our own ConfigParser subclass is that we can watch for people non-utf-8 values coming out of get() and issue warnings under py2 that may (will?) turn into errors under py3 | 22:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Strip leading/trailing whitespace from headers https://review.openstack.org/356802 | 23:02 |
| timburke | swifterdarrell: ^^^ | 23:02 |
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