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| notmyname | anyone have a rhel/centos box handy? | 00:11 |
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| notmyname | what is the name of the rpm package that installs rsync? | 00:11 |
| clarkb | notmyname: just 'rsync' | 00:12 |
| notmyname | clarkb: thanks. (same as dpkg, that's nice) | 00:12 |
| clarkb | rsync.x86_64 : A program for synchronizing files over a network is from yum search rsync | 00:12 |
| * notmyname is working on other-requirements.txt | 00:12 | |
| clarkb | cool, keystone was working on it earlier today as well | 00:13 |
| clarkb | will be good to see projcets use that to better communicate deps this cycle | 00:13 |
| notmyname | clarkb: I noticed that python isn't in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/data/bindep-fallback.txt. will that be needed with 16.04? I'm told that's not installed by default now | 00:15 |
| notmyname | ie py27 | 00:15 |
| notmyname | clarkb: also, do you know if other-reqs is synced by the global reqs bot? | 00:15 |
| clarkb | I would list it, we do preinstlal it as it is required for zuul-cloner and other things. But this way you will work on xenial without our images and it will just noop on our images | 00:15 |
| clarkb | there is no sync for global reqs and other reqs | 00:16 |
| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: created other-requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/309219 | 00:16 |
| notmyname | ok | 00:16 |
| clarkb | at least I don't think there is, gets complicated becuase the distros control versions and stuff | 00:16 |
| notmyname | clarkb: so now what does a test passing on that patch mean? that everythign is good? | 00:17 |
| clarkb | yes, if the unittests pass on that patch it means you successfully installed enough of the dependencies to run your unittests | 00:17 |
| notmyname | yay | 00:17 |
| notmyname | or at least enough were installed | 00:17 |
| notmyname | ie something like "python" that's required but might not be specified and it stillworks because it was included by default or something | 00:18 |
| clarkb | ya | 00:18 |
| notmyname | clarkb: can you please check the format on that patch, please? I started with the default one, but I'm not really sure that i got it all right | 00:18 |
| notmyname | also, I'm not 100% sure when the -dev packages are needed. but they were in the default, so I kept them | 00:19 |
| clarkb | you will need -dev when your python packages link against them | 00:20 |
| clarkb | libxml2-dev and libxslt-dev are required if you depend on lxml for example | 00:20 |
| notmyname | right. I know that one. not sure about the sqlite or libEC dev packages though | 00:20 |
| notmyname | i mean, I think they're probably required (which is why I kept them there). I just don't know exactly where they're used, off the top of my head | 00:21 |
| clarkb | the ec dev is required since they split it out into distro packages instead of bundling the C headres | 00:21 |
| clarkb | the python ec package links against the C stuff | 00:21 |
| clarkb | and python-dev is needed when python links to C, that list looks fine to me | 00:22 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: thanks | 00:23 |
| notmyname | I compared this against the dependencies swiftstack has in our product for our swift packages | 00:24 |
| clarkb | you probably don't have the dev stuff there because the packages are prebuilt, but otherwise should line up | 00:25 |
| notmyname | clarkb: so when we get to a point of readding a pypy gate job, we'd have to add pypy to this file, right? | 00:26 |
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| clarkb | correct | 00:26 |
| notmyname | got it! thanks :-) | 00:26 |
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| kota_ | hello | 01:26 |
| kota_ | timburke, mattoliverau: thanks for reviewing the versioned_writes patch, it seemed to land successfully. | 01:27 |
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| mattoliverau | kota_: morning! | 01:29 |
| kota_ | mattolivearu: morning! | 01:30 |
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| timburke | kota_: yeah, i'm happy with it. definitely making the rebase for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214922/ painful though :( | 01:45 |
| patchbot | timburke: patch 214922 - swift - Add "history" mode to versioned_writes middleware | 01:45 |
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| kota_ | timburke: yeah, I have a expositive patch for versioned_writes (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209315/) which definitely needs to be rebased :/ | 01:48 |
| patchbot | kota_: patch 209315 - swift - Refactor versioned_writes middleware | 01:48 |
| kota_ | but it's great we are getting progress the versioned_writes. | 01:49 |
| timburke | agreed | 01:49 |
| kota_ | timburke: ah, and thanks for so many comments on swif3 sigv4 pathc. | 01:51 |
| kota_ | patch. | 01:51 |
| timburke | yeah, i think no matter what, it's going to be a big one | 01:51 |
| kota_ | I noticed, but didn't have time to look at yet. | 01:51 |
| timburke | no worries, i understand. i'll see if i can propose a follow-up (or two?) to address most of the issues before austin | 01:52 |
| kota_ | sounds great, it (they?) will be definitely helpful for me :) | 01:53 |
| timburke | as much as possible, i want to minimize how much you actually *have* to do | 01:53 |
| kota_ | and hopefully i wish I have the time to see it too. | 01:53 |
| kota_ | exactly, | 01:53 |
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| kota_ | in the patch, I was working as a few changes from original authors one but actually, we need to make it to good shape as a little different from the master. | 01:55 |
| kota_ | thanks man. | 01:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Add "history" mode to versioned_writes middleware https://review.openstack.org/214922 | 02:05 |
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| janonymous | bkeller:yes, please go ahead | 03:26 |
| jrichli | bkeller` ^^ | 03:27 |
| bkeller` | alright, thanks :D | 03:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: created other-requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/309219 | 03:33 |
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| mahatic | good morning | 03:42 |
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| mahatic | acoles_: thanks for the updates | 03:42 |
| mattoliverau | mahatic: morning | 03:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: CompositeRing Support https://review.openstack.org/271920 | 04:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Fix EC ring validation at ring reload https://review.openstack.org/268993 | 04:11 |
| mahatic | mattoliverau: hello | 04:14 |
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| clayg | redbo: what version of golang are you guys using? 1.4 seems to old 1.6 might be too new? | 05:16 |
| redbo | I'm using 1.6 | 05:17 |
| clayg | hrmmmm.. | 05:17 |
| clayg | imports runtime: C source files not allowed when not using cgo or SWIG: atomic_amd64x.c defs.c float.c heapdump.c lfstack.c malloc.c mcache.c mcentral.c mem_linux.c mfixalloc.c mgc0.c mheap.c msize.c os_linux.c panic.c parfor.c proc.c runtime.c signal.c signal_amd64x.c signal_unix.c stack.c string.c sys_x86.c vdso_linux_amd64.c | 05:17 |
| clayg | 1.6.2 | 05:17 |
| clayg | package github.com/openstack/swift/go/bench | 05:17 |
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| redbo | Hmm.. Do you have gcc installed? | 05:21 |
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| clayg | internet seemd to think i didn't know how to upgrade go `rm -fr /usr/local/go` and reinstall seemed to help get me to a different error anyway | 05:23 |
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| clayg | why is $GOPATH/bin/cmd a thing and $GOPATH/src/github.com/openstack/swift/go/bin/hummingbird also a thing? | 05:37 |
| clayg | i guess the Makefile is doing some fancyness with -o and the go tools are bitter about src/github.com/openstack/swift not being a go project (you have to go into swift/go and there's not even a main.go there) | 05:38 |
| redbo | I hadn't noticed that. Seems like cmd gets built when "go get" is ran. | 05:41 |
| clayg | different things annoy different people i 'spose | 05:41 |
| bluetefn | I'd like to run more than 2 proxy server in a swift cluster by using haproxy. is it possible? | 05:43 |
| redbo | The cmd subpackage was one of Dave Cheney's suggestions, but it's possible I'm not doing it right. | 05:43 |
| redbo | bluetefn: yes, that is pretty normal. We use haproxy to terminate ssl and load balance to a bunch of proxies. | 05:44 |
| clayg | notmyname: what was the ssl terminator that we were bitching about in bristol - the one that was terrible that used before stud? | 05:46 |
| notmyname | pound | 05:46 |
| clayg | ah pound :) | 05:46 |
| clayg | redbo: if `hummingbird start object` doesn't fork when it spins up the four servers how am I supposed to kill one to test handoffs and stuff in dev? | 05:49 |
| clayg | oh wait, hold the phone - it forks | 05:50 |
| clayg | just always the same parent proc showing up in netstat (i guess it listens's before fork and priv drop) | 05:50 |
| redbo | I don't think it can do that. Yet anyway. | 05:51 |
| redbo | At least not easily | 05:51 |
| clayg | oh no that's my bad - no fork - just threads | 05:51 |
| clayg | i guess - idk how linux works - point is `ps -eLf` shows four guys - but no matter what I kill they all die | 05:52 |
| portante | resiliency | 05:52 |
| redbo | Yeah, threads | 05:52 |
| clayg | how many sockets do you have the hummingbird process listening on when you deploy for realzy? | 05:53 |
| redbo | Two, I think? There's no reason to do it that way, but we already had replication on a separate port in our rings. | 05:53 |
| clayg | do you *have* a 1.conf 2.conf for replication or anything? of that entire feature of spinning up multiple servers listening on mutiple procs for ever conf/dir in /etc/swift/object-server/ is just a feature for dev | 05:53 |
| redbo | Yeah, we have two configs | 05:54 |
| clayg | ... but you cant manage them seperately with the hummingbird "daemon command" thingy | 05:54 |
| redbo | Nope | 05:54 |
| clayg | k | 05:54 |
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| redbo | Not to say it couldn't be added. It's sort of close to being able to launch multiple processes. It just doesn't know how to write different named pid files for them. | 06:08 |
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| clayg | redbo: honestly i'd be happiest just plumbing `hummingbird object -d` into swift-init instead of swift-object-server - but i'm sure you have different opinions on that | 06:12 |
| clayg | i just hate having to type `swift-init restart proxy account container; hummingbird start object` when `swift-init restart main` is all I really want to say | 06:13 |
| clayg | like I give a %^&* what language it is as an operator writing init scripts? | 06:13 |
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| ahale | us operators rarely give a %^&* about anything at all ! | 06:17 |
| redbo | You do what I tell you! | 06:17 |
| redbo | Or I'll make the hummingbird binary longer and harder to type | 06:18 |
| ahale | hehe | 06:18 |
| ahale | you have no idea how much of my day at the moment is spent tying swif^D^D^D^Dhumm | 06:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Fix EC ring validation at ring reload https://review.openstack.org/268993 | 06:20 |
| clayg | like i said, different things annoy differnt people | 06:22 |
| clayg | i can't imagine living like this - but i'm sort of known for lacking imagination | 06:22 |
| clayg | also fuck sudo and fuck secure_path | 06:22 |
| ahale | idk - i could put up with almost anything for the replication features hbird has | 06:24 |
| clayg | ahale: funny thing! I'm hearing this buzz about "replication features" in hbird and I must have missed a commit somewhere because the last psudeo-interesting thing I saw was the replicator growing a http server and getting a rescueparts command... | 06:27 |
| clayg | ahale: but I've been thinking a lot about how crappy replication/rebalance is recently and was wondering how many of these conclusions about what needs to be fixed first I had to independently discover | 06:27 |
| clayg | ... since ya'll weren't in bristol for us to catch up | 06:28 |
| clayg | ... and you don't ever write anything down | 06:28 |
| ahale | i've been using moveparts lots and adjusting the disk_limit's, concurrency and ms_per_part | 06:28 |
| clayg | so - here I am trying to dust of my hummingbird deployment! | 06:28 |
| ahale | but basically, priority replication | 06:28 |
| clayg | discovering and prioritizing replication work is hard - let ops do it! :D | 06:28 |
| ahale | oh no, i mean the hbird "priority replication" feature | 06:29 |
| clayg | yeah sorry unless that's dfg's rescue parts command I have no idea what that feature is or how it works? | 06:29 |
| clayg | ... but you know ... i'm trying | 06:30 |
| ahale | its same kinda thing as rescureparts | 06:30 |
| ahale | moveparts | 06:30 |
| ahale | i mean, move and rescue both use taht new listening stuff and replicate differently, and way better in some situations | 06:31 |
| redbo | The http server just lets you shove replication jobs to the front of the queue. moveparts is if you rebalance and partitions move from one drive to another, it sends up jobs to move those partitions from that one place to that one new place. | 06:36 |
| redbo | restoredevice is for when a drive is replaced, and it prioritizes jobs for the other primaries of partitions that should be on that drive to replicate to it. | 06:37 |
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| redbo | rescueparts I think just says everyone stop what you're doing and pay attention to this partition because it's under-replicated | 06:38 |
| redbo | In my utopian future, there's a guy who watches for drive swaps, ring changes, and bad dispersion reports and kicks those guys off. | 06:41 |
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| ahale | yeah for now I just do as you tell me! until you replace me with a small go script | 06:43 |
| clayg | interesting... | 06:44 |
| clayg | i mean not so much the part about why there's a need for replicators to have more optomized behaviors depending on the situation - update and updated_deleted just don't cut it | 06:46 |
| clayg | ... but that it would be orchestrated by an out-of-band process trying to co-ordinate the whole ordeal instead of just the replicators jobs to think a little harder and ask better questions before the do stupid and useless shit | 06:46 |
| clayg | worth some pondering | 06:47 |
| clayg | redbo: THANKS FOR WRITING SOMETHING DOWN ;) | 06:47 |
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| redbo | Yeah, a big part of what those guys do is make sure drives don't have more than two things being priority replicated to them at a time. | 06:49 |
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| clayg | seems like a job for semephores instead of humans - but different things annoy different people i 'spose | 07:00 |
| clayg | the one thing I like about this plan is that it makes running swift require even more institutional devops knowledge! | 07:00 |
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| ahale | i think it could be interesting if rebalance was able to take hints too, like dispersion reports and recon -d info | 07:01 |
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| clayg | ahale: is recon -d disk fullness? or part lists? | 07:02 |
| ahale | fullness | 07:02 |
| redbo | Well there's a semaphore, but if you sent a bazillion replication jobs and a bazillion - 2 get rejected for concurrency, it's not very useful | 07:03 |
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| clayg | i'm not sure we have the same connotation for the cardinality of a bazillion - replication is still part based right? it's the same number of requests as REPLICATE suffix checks right? | 07:06 |
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| clayg | just some of them would say HTTP 420? | 07:07 |
| clayg | don't get me wrong - i'm all for cutting out suffix rehasing on new-primaries that are filling still filling from the old primary - do the new primaries know not to tell the new guys to rehash? | 07:09 |
| redbo | They.. don't know that, really. They still invalidate their hash any time you sync a file to them. | 07:10 |
| clayg | k | 07:10 |
| clayg | well it sounds like next week is going to be tons of fun | 07:11 |
| ahale | :( | 07:11 |
| clayg | i still have a bunch to catch up tho - and I can't even seem to manage to get a decent hummingbird devenv up :'( | 07:11 |
| ahale | i think there are two or three different ops efforts going on to get a hbird vagrant all-in-one/many going, probably start appearing on github sooner or later | 07:13 |
| clayg | great! i'm trying to shake the rust of vagrant-swift-all-in-one/hummingbird branch | 07:14 |
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| clayg | i'm excited to revert my "fix" to not use conf.d - wtg hbird! | 07:16 |
| redbo | That's still in review :( | 07:17 |
| redbo | I'm going to beat david up tomorrow until he approves all my patches | 07:17 |
| clayg | oh no! :'( | 07:19 |
| clayg | i thought when unit tests start working again it must have ment that my proxies conf.d was no longer a problem! | 07:19 |
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| clayg | redbo: is there really no prescription on line length in golang? | 07:20 |
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| clayg | i like to side-by-side in my editor and have been *so* spoiled by pep8 telling everyone to wrap at 80 so that I don't have! | 07:21 |
| redbo | Not really. If it feels good, do it. There are probably some lines in there that are too long. | 07:21 |
| clayg | i'm not sure what i'm going to do with lines that 100+ chars long | 07:21 |
| clayg | my entire world might fall apart | 07:21 |
| clayg | i don't think i can grok code if I can't side-by-side (you have to remember - i'm rather dull) | 07:21 |
| redbo | gholt has a script that sets his terminal to exactly 80 columns wide, and makes his browser exactly fill the rest of the screen. | 07:22 |
| clayg | does he still hang out on the internet? maybe in some fuse or nfs channel somewhere? | 07:23 |
| redbo | Not that I know of. He's been twittering a little. | 07:23 |
| redbo | And he's been talking about making a linedin account for weeks. | 07:24 |
| clayg | so explain this one -> http://play.golang.org/p/t8DbarKqpS | 07:26 |
| clayg | maybe I don't understand this def -> func (errorSlice) Error() string | 07:28 |
| onovy | good news everyone: swift/2.5.0 in our production :) | 07:28 |
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| redbo | putting an "Error() string" method on an object basically lets you cast it to an error | 07:30 |
| redbo | Because error is an interface with just that method defined | 07:31 |
| clayg | onovy: 2.7 is out - get you some concrrent reads - thanks mattoliverau ! | 07:31 |
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| onovy | clayg: yep i know, on my backlog too | 07:31 |
| clayg | onovy: :) | 07:31 |
| redbo | Then he's mad that an instance of errorSlice that's nil, when cast to an error, is no longer nil. | 07:31 |
| ahale | i really wanna get concurrent reads in prod! | 07:31 |
| clayg | onovy: you were one of the folks involved in ionice stuff yeah!? came up in our office today - i really want to see that in | 07:32 |
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| onovy | clayg: yep, peter and i was woking on it | 07:32 |
| onovy | but still no review :) | 07:33 |
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| clayg | it needs some reviews! | 07:33 |
| onovy | almost ~1 month wihout comment | 07:34 |
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| peterlisak | onovy, clayg, everyone: great, I'd appreciate new feedback on that ionice :) | 07:57 |
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| clayg | acoles: morning! | 08:11 |
| acoles | clayg: hey, what you doing around at this time? | 08:12 |
| acoles | clayg: when do you get into Austin? | 08:13 |
| acoles | I' ther emidday Sunday | 08:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: CompositeRing Support https://review.openstack.org/271920 | 08:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: crypto - byok support in keymaster https://review.openstack.org/307811 | 08:52 |
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| clayg | By convention, tag strings are a concatenation of optionally space-separated key:"value" pairs. Each key is a non-empty string consisting of non-control characters other than space (U+0020 ' '), quote (U+0022 '"'), and colon (U+003A ':'). Each value is quoted using U+0022 '"' characters and Go string literal syntax. | 09:04 |
| clayg | Partition uint64 `json:"partition"` | 09:04 |
| clayg | so weird | 09:04 |
| clayg | acoles: yup midday sunday | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Add User-Agent to REPCONN requests https://review.openstack.org/309339 | 10:14 |
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| mattoliverau | clayg: thanks to you too! | 10:38 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Log server was repaired as of 10:50 UTC and jobs have been stable since. If necessary, please recheck changes that have 'UNSTABLE' results. | 15:02 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: crypto - Refactor server side copy as middleware https://review.openstack.org/309466 | 15:14 |
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| acoles | jrichli: mahatic tdasilva ^^ all tests pass, put this up as WIP to share but still waiting for it to land on master first | 15:16 |
| acoles | notmyname: ^^ that's probably as good as we might have hoped to have feature/crypto by today, but I don't propose we merge it | 15:18 |
| acoles | there's some other patches pending but they are cleanup, tests etc | 15:19 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: ok | 15:21 |
| mahatic | acoles: okay, thanks | 15:22 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: JUST A TEST WHERE liberasurecode STUFF ISN'T USED https://review.openstack.org/309510 | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Keller proposed openstack/swift: SwiftLogFormatter will log transaction IDs on INFO level https://review.openstack.org/309524 | 17:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bryan Keller proposed openstack/swift: SwiftLogFormatter will log transaction IDs on INFO level https://review.openstack.org/309524 | 17:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: swift-[account|container]-info when disk is full https://review.openstack.org/268723 | 17:31 |
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| notmyname | onovy: I'd appreciate your view on patch 309219 | 17:46 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309219/ - swift - created other-requirements.txt | 17:46 |
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| clayg | clam before the storm | 20:15 |
| clayg | ... kind of a weird typo | 20:15 |
| notmyname | google says https://handsomefox.com/droveria/files/Bizarro-Clam-Before-the-Storm.jpg | 20:17 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: do you still have a signal group going? | 20:18 |
| notmyname | it's just a group chat. there's nothing to set up or anything | 20:18 |
| notmyname | (however, I think I left the group) | 20:18 |
| tdasilva | ok..was just wondering if people were planning to use at the summit... | 20:19 |
| notmyname | probably everyone will have a corporate slack channel. and personal text messages. and maybe a signal group. or whatsapp. and the sane ones will leave their phone at home and just find people in the hallways ;- | 20:20 |
| * notmyname is not a sane one | 20:20 | |
| * notmyname goes back to slide prep | 20:20 | |
| clayg | dfg_: you around? I'm trying to respond to your ask on the replicator logging - but I think we're crossed-wires | 20:21 |
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| dfg_ | clayg: ya i'm here. | 20:29 |
| clayg | dfg_: well i'm almost done typing now! | 20:29 |
| dfg_ | ya- i got confused. i thought i added the job_type crap in my current work. but it was in the last patch | 20:29 |
| clayg | yeah i don't really know what you were talking about in the first couple of posts - my gist womm | 20:30 |
| clayg | fwiw i'm not sure you groked that in my test I was acctually making a job that told a primary part holder to push a part onto a hand-off just to do it and see what happens | 20:30 |
| dfg_ | you used to have to pass "job_type" in the json. but nm | 20:30 |
| dfg_ | oohh. ya i didn't get that | 20:31 |
| clayg | dfg_: probably not relevant then - i mean... is the rpc documented in some test code somewhere? maybe some probetests or something like that? | 20:31 |
| clayg | dfg_: yeah so anyway - i got my repconn logs - i could see the three primaries getting repconns from *somewhere* but it wasn't obvious from whom | 20:32 |
| clayg | in python we stick pids in the user agents - but that doesn't work in all this cray single process land | 20:32 |
| clayg | so i just grabbed the first unique identifier i could find | 20:32 |
| clayg | if the object-server is going to log user-agent we might as well put something useful in it? not sure if what I cooked up was useful? | 20:32 |
| clayg | also i suppose if you look at the long lines in a multinode system the ip of the source (the replicator node) will be in the log message somewhere? | 20:33 |
| clayg | probably the first field after the colon - it'd have the remote ip? | 20:33 |
| dfg_ | ya | 20:33 |
| dfg_ | thats the thing- it would only help in a SAIO | 20:34 |
| clayg | yeah but... that's useful? sort of ... required even if ... well idk | 20:34 |
| dfg_ | but- i don't really mind all that much. its not a big change or something | 20:35 |
| dfg_ | but people do complain about logging or some kind of insight into the system. so i'd like to add something. but i'm not sure if this is that something | 20:35 |
| clayg | how do *you* debug this kind of stuff when you hacking in dev? | 20:36 |
| clayg | are you guys just all if it compiles stick it on the lab/staging? | 20:36 |
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| dfg_ | ya- if `make` works i call it done | 20:37 |
| clayg | right on | 20:37 |
| dfg_ | idk- i do a lot of getting rid of conf files and messing with the ring. | 20:38 |
| clayg | so - more seriously - I don't know how to make this one process starts all the replicators make sense in my workflow? | 20:38 |
| clayg | ahhhh... | 20:38 |
| clayg | yeah that seems annoying tho | 20:38 |
| clayg | :) | 20:38 |
| dfg_ | ya- it is annoying :) | 20:39 |
| clayg | in probetests we do a lot of stop object-server.1 | 20:39 |
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| clayg | or cycle object-replicator.2 | 20:39 |
| dfg_ | you can also run a single object server at a time. | 20:39 |
| clayg | by moving configs around? or is there a command syntax to have it shut one of them down? | 20:39 |
| clayg | oh... you just mean in the forground | 20:39 |
| dfg_ | ya | 20:40 |
| clayg | maybe? | 20:40 |
| dfg_ | in forground | 20:40 |
| dfg_ | made same typo | 20:40 |
| clayg | heh | 20:41 |
| clayg | it's because golang only has for loops! | 20:41 |
| dfg_ | i don't think you can shut the off one by one like that | 20:41 |
| dfg_ | sometimes i miss python... | 20:42 |
| clayg | well - i really want that - breaking things and watching them fix themselves is a big part of how I reason about changes in the consistency engine | 20:42 |
| clayg | nah - don't say that | 20:42 |
| dfg_ | :) | 20:42 |
| dfg_ | there is the lock_device thing | 20:42 |
| clayg | I really think I can make swift-init take over the job of orchestrating *all* of swifts backend daemons regardless of the implementation | 20:42 |
| redbo | This almost works: "hummingbird start object -c /etc/swift/object-server/1.conf". The main problem is it writes object.pid instead of object.1.pid or whatever, so you can't do multiples of those. | 20:42 |
| clayg | redbo: why can't i just let swift-init fork into `hummingbird object-server -d -c /blah/1.conf` ? | 20:43 |
| clayg | it says it closes stdout? | 20:43 |
| redbo | You can | 20:43 |
| clayg | it would mean so much to me to be able to `swift-init start main` I can't even describe it | 20:44 |
| glange | hah | 20:44 |
| clayg | i'd really like to be able to tell people "here's how you upgrade to hbird, in [object-server] section of your config write fucking_fast = true" and it just works | 20:44 |
| redbo | Except go can't setuid itself, so swift-init will need to do that. | 20:45 |
| clayg | i could preparse the config in swift-init before hitting the subexec and just kick over the right command | 20:45 |
| clayg | wat? | 20:45 |
| clayg | you mean drop_priv? | 20:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Bryan Keller proposed openstack/swift: SwiftLogFormatter will log transaction IDs on INFO level https://review.openstack.org/309524 | 20:46 |
| redbo | Yeah, go can't drop its own privileges, the "start" command does that when it executes the background guy. | 20:47 |
| redbo | I think swift does that after it's started | 20:47 |
| clayg | well *yeah* | 20:47 |
| clayg | i think i can't plumb that into the subprocess guy | 20:47 |
| clayg | he has flags for all that crap | 20:47 |
| clayg | but but... what if I need to bind to a privledged port? | 20:48 |
| clayg | why can go not do this thing? I'm sure Pike has some great story about how assholes like me aren't smart enough to do it right anyway so they don't need to have that feature | 20:48 |
| redbo | setcap 'cap_net_bind_service=+ep' :) | 20:48 |
| clayg | redbo: k, fair enough | 20:49 |
| clayg | well i don't put my object servers on priv'd ports anyway - so doing the priv drop in the subexec would probably work great | 20:49 |
| clayg | and you'd be down with all this (patch review pending of course)? | 20:49 |
| redbo | There's a long-running bug for it in go. Basically the setuid system call only changes the current thread, and libc's setuid uses some complex system of signals and handlers to change all the uid of all the threads owned by the process, but go doesn't have all that yet. | 20:50 |
| redbo | Sure | 20:50 |
| clayg | yawn | 20:50 |
| clayg | ok great! | 20:50 |
| redbo | OR swift-init or whomever could bind the port and pass it as a command-line argument. But that would take a little work. | 20:51 |
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| clayg | just be all like yo yo yoo this integer here is toally a socket fd I setup for you bro - have at it! | 20:52 |
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| clayg | god there's so many outstanding patches to review :'( | 21:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Clean up fallocate tests a little https://review.openstack.org/309608 | 21:59 |
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