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| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Follow up on patch 295875 https://review.openstack.org/301070 | 11:55 |
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| sbezverk | Good morning, swift packaging does not provide rootwrap scripts by default right? | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: Support for http footers - Replication and EC https://review.openstack.org/237393 | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Jethro Sun proposed openstack/swift: Fix the errors in swift/common/ring/builder.py and swift/cli/ringbuilder.py https://review.openstack.org/300710 | 14:54 |
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| pdardeau | good morning | 15:02 |
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| clayg | morning! | 15:10 |
| ntata | good morning! | 15:14 |
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| acoles | good morning | 15:52 |
| acoles | tdasilva: thanks for your work on crypto footers patch! | 15:53 |
| acoles | tdasilva: jrichli : i have been working some more on that today based on tdasilva's latest push | 15:53 |
| tdasilva | acoles: oh cool, thanks for the heads up. I will look forward to that | 15:54 |
| jrichli | acoles tdasilva: thanks to you both :-) I just got back to work after doing some family stuff, and I am moving offices this morning. but i will checkout your changes soon! | 15:56 |
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| acoles | jrichli: good luck with the move | 16:01 |
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| jrichli | acoles: thanks! about the new trello cards on failing tests: I guess these tests are now failing after the merge to our branch? do you know if they are new tests? which patch were you testing against when you found these? | 16:13 |
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| sbezverk | hello, I was wondering if swift has rootwrap functionallity integrated into the packaging? | 16:33 |
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| acoles | jrichli: i was testing the merge from master patch, and I believe the new failures were due to assertions that have been added on master to verify etag values are correct in respone headers | 16:39 |
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| notmyname | hello, world | 16:45 |
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| clayg | balls -> why did patch 300319 get abandoned? that's webscale. | 17:03 |
| patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300319/ - swift - Add API compatibility middleware for S4 (ABANDONED) | 17:03 |
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| clayg | notmyname: do you still have the link for the austin schedule? | 17:15 |
| notmyname | for the design sessions? | 17:15 |
| clayg | notmyname: there's a section on the pad for "conflicts" - maybe we can link there? | 17:15 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah I'm looking at my email for my schedule talk and thinking it probably conflicts with the design sessions... | 17:15 |
| clayg | notmyname: oh nice you added a session for searchlight! | 17:16 |
| notmyname | clayg: found it in the meeting notes http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090606.html | 17:17 |
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| clayg | notmyname: brilliant! | 17:20 |
| mmotiani | joeljwright: Hi, did you get the chance to reivew the patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288566/ | 17:22 |
| patchbot | mmotiani: patch 288566 - python-swiftclient - WIP: This patch adds a new doc structure for swift... | 17:22 |
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| notmyname | whew. a few judicious email filters and a *lot* of down arrow pushing, and all 522 emails are marked as read. | 17:35 |
| clayg | notmyname: do you use gmail keyboard shortcuts - really helps me clear out the junk | 17:40 |
| notmyname | no, I don't use gmail ;-) | 17:40 |
| clayg | whoa | 17:40 |
| notmyname | http://d.not.mn/swift_mailbox_rules.png is my current set of rules | 17:41 |
| zaitcev | semantic | 17:42 |
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| notmyname | and that filters the openstack ML mailbox (which is sorted server-side via dovecot/sieve) | 17:42 |
| notmyname | if anyone else is using their own mailserver, here's the openstack ML section of my sieve rules https://gist.github.com/notmyname/79658e45757056b0755e627109333527 | 17:45 |
| clayg | notmyname: no one is running their own mailserver - dork | 17:46 |
| clayg | ;) | 17:46 |
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| notmyname | FYI cross-project session proposals for the summit are at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cross-project-sessions | 17:50 |
| clayg | whoa - they have +3's!? | 17:50 |
| notmyname | ones that look interesting to swift are 27, 26, 25, 24, 22, 20, 9 | 17:52 |
| notmyname | probably a couple of others, too | 17:52 |
| clayg | notmyname: 10. co-installability is hard - let's not do that anymore | 17:54 |
| notmyname | re the summit/conference split: "we have general agreement on the approach" <- I haven't heard anyone speak positively about it | 17:56 |
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| clayg | notmyname: +2 22. How to Keystone | 17:58 |
| notmyname | yeah | 18:00 |
| notmyname | and also the how to policy.json one | 18:00 |
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| clarkb | notmyname: there was a lot of positive response to the mailing list thread (but there was also a lot of disagreement) | 18:04 |
| notmyname | yeah. I guess I mean literally heard. there were some (of the more active ML participants) who did respond favorably to the idea | 18:05 |
| notmyname | oh, nice. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299686/ is going through the gate | 18:06 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 299686 - swift - Fix upgrade bug in versioned_writes | 18:06 |
| notmyname | timburke: cschwede: acoles: any updates on getting rolling upgrade testing going? | 18:06 |
| acoles | notmyname: not from me i'm afraid except merging 299686 | 18:08 |
| notmyname | patch 299686 | 18:08 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299686/ - swift - Fix upgrade bug in versioned_writes | 18:08 |
| notmyname | ack | 18:08 |
| clayg | acoles: A.B.M. ; A - Always ; B - Be ; M - Merging ; Always Be Merging. | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Support for http footers - Replication and EC https://review.openstack.org/237393 | 18:09 |
| notmyname | clayg: coffee is for mergers? | 18:09 |
| clayg | notmyname: lol | 18:09 |
| acoles | i'm lost | 18:10 |
| notmyname | acoles: old american movie reference | 18:10 |
| notmyname | boiler room? | 18:10 |
| clayg | acoles: yeah sorry | 18:10 |
| acoles | oic | 18:10 |
| clayg | notmyname: i think it was a play? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104348/ | 18:10 |
| notmyname | all about high pressure sales. phrase is "ABC always be closing" and "coffee is for closers" | 18:10 |
| notmyname | clayg: oh interesting. | 18:11 |
| notmyname | I've never actually seen it | 18:11 |
| clayg | notmyname: you can just watch the baldwin doing his thing on youtube - that's the main thing folks make reference to | 18:11 |
| notmyname | yeah, I've done that (of course) ;-) | 18:12 |
| acoles | clayg: notmyname thank you for clarifying, google had led me to "Always Be My Baby". i stopped there :) | 18:13 |
| notmyname | acoles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4PE2hSqVnk | 18:14 |
| clayg | notmyname: this one is better -> https://youtu.be/H68eCEWKb7M?t=61 (NSFW) | 18:17 |
| acoles | tdasilva: jrichli I just pushed latest on 237393. I *think* its getting a little simpler. I left the BaseObjController knowing about final_phase - tried to see how it could be encapsulated into the MIMEPutter by making the putters track which phase they were dealing with but it seemed like a lot of churn and probably harder to follow the code so i gave up | 18:17 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah | 18:17 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: looking... | 18:20 |
| acoles | notmyname: much like a typical daily standup round here :) | 18:28 |
| notmyname | lol | 18:28 |
| notmyname | always be merging. first prize: new computer. second prize: free download of swift. | 18:29 |
| tdasilva | acoles: looks like you removed all crypto reference! is determine_crypto_md and trailing_metadata_crypto all encapsulated in the middleware now? | 18:30 |
| tdasilva | acoles: just wondering why _get_footers wasn't being used before... | 18:33 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: yes, so i couldn't really figure what those trailing_metadata methods were doing. the way i see it the proxy just calls back the middleware and it gets to update the dict with any footers it has. then for EC we just make sure the Etag that is sent is the fragment etag. | 18:34 |
| acoles | tdasilva: oh i just saw you pushed another patch, sorry! did it just remove get_put_responses2? | 18:34 |
| tdasilva | acoles: yeah | 18:34 |
| acoles | tdasilva: ok, i did that too ;) | 18:35 |
| tdasilva | cool! sorry for forgetting that | 18:35 |
| notmyname | clayg: when you get a chance, can you look at the new patch set on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238799/ ? There's been one since your last review | 18:35 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 238799 - swift - Change schedule priority of daemon/server in config | 18:35 |
| notmyname | clayg: (this is my manual attempt at a script that does this for you) ;-) | 18:35 |
| acoles | tdasilva: i figured you were doing exactly what i do when replacing/moving a method :) | 18:35 |
| * notmyname is walking down the https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews page | 18:35 | |
| tdasilva | acoles: yeah...run tests first, make sure i didn't break anything ;) | 18:36 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: kota_ left some comments for me on patch 260179, i will get to them today/tomorrow | 18:36 |
| patchbot | tdasilva: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 18:36 |
| acoles | i saw kota_: left a review on patch 260179 - thanks kota_ ! | 18:36 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 18:36 |
| tdasilva | lol | 18:36 |
| notmyname | great | 18:37 |
| acoles | tdasilva: jrichli i left some comments on patchset 22 of patch 237393, a lot of which i addressed in patchset 24 but there's some queries i am not sure about - like where the connection closing moved to? | 18:39 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237393/ - swift (feature/crypto) - Support for http footers - Replication and EC | 18:39 |
| tdasilva | acoles: do you still think _transfer_data can be merged in one? | 18:40 |
| ahale | clayg: im interested what the operational stuff around rsync is that you mentioned that fallocate percent stuff | 18:41 |
| clayg | notmyname: ahale's point wasn't about "how much space" to reserve - it was "why do I want to reserve more on my 4TB drives than on my 8TB drives? Even if it's 1% - why do I need twice as much on the larger drives? a few hundered MB will get you 10K's of tombstones. The use-case of reserve as a percentage is under question - either folks are only trying to keep back a little and % doesn't make sense - or folks are trying t | 18:42 |
| clayg | ahale: well since everyone not RAX is still doing rsync replication - i'm just implementing basically some automation around the "fire drill" stuff that we do when clusters get full - all the handoffs first and disable rsync on the full the nodes stuff | 18:42 |
| ahale | clayg: you ran out of irc at "or folks are trying t" | 18:43 |
| ahale | ah ok | 18:43 |
| clayg | ahale: except instead of "disable rsync on the full nodes" - i'm using rsync module's per disk to a) get better i/o isolation (no "all 25 connections on the same disk") and also to shut down individual disk as they get full | 18:43 |
| ahale | yeah my main point was more what yours was initially i think? that as long as you have one box that isn't full then rsync will fill them unless you hack it | 18:43 |
| clayg | ahale: obviously the expectation is most drives will get near full very close to the same time - but depending on your ingest and how fast replication is pushing - the hope is we'll get the fullest drives drives soonest | 18:44 |
| ahale | ahh ok - does that mean tombstones have to be from deletes on that host then? not replicated in ? | 18:44 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah, that makes sense. but I also don't want to get into a "your use case isn't valid" situation where we have someone proposing a patch because he's building that automation into his deployment scripts. ostensibly there's some value there. so doign a 1% reserve doesn't seem to harm anything but it does allow for andymccr to get is itch scratched | 18:45 |
| acoles | tdasilva: maybe but not sure and tbh my brain is fried :) maybe you will see it or i will look again tomorrow. there is a trade off between 'perfect' refactoring and making the patch 'reviewable' | 18:45 |
| clayg | ahale: yeah so we already have a little daemon/agent guy that watches disks for fullness - with rsync module per disk - he can just drop a little [object_dXX] max connections = -1 and everyone trying to write data to him gets rejected quick and moves on to trying to find a part-replica that *can* move | 18:45 |
| ahale | like when we ran rsync, we hacked it to leave 5G on every disk i think, and had the same set in swift as a fixed fallocate_reserve - so a full disk would never sneakily fill | 18:45 |
| ahale | ah ok i guess that works | 18:45 |
| acoles | tdasilva: there is some re-naming that could still be useful - where we have inconsistent use of conns and putters, but again i was wary of adding line diff count and putting off reviewers ;) | 18:45 |
| tdasilva | acoles: I agree...at one point I was even thinking if it would make sense to break this patch down is small pieces | 18:46 |
| clayg | notmyname: maybe? it's one more knob to document and maintain? why should we assume andy is on the right track? And if he *is* onto something - why wouldn't we want to know about it? (Honestly asking, not sure I disagree - I'm cool with LET THEM HAVE CAKE!) | 18:46 |
| clayg | ahale: did you guys compile a custom rsync - or just like a ld_preload shim? | 18:47 |
| ahale | yeah i mean im not opposed at all, just offering ideas why it might immediately not solve the problem people think it might - its not something that impacts us | 18:47 |
| tdasilva | acoles: nice cleanup of _get_put_responses | 18:47 |
| ahale | yeah a custom rsync gholt patched | 18:47 |
| ahale | lemme see if i can find it | 18:47 |
| acoles | tdasilva: yep, there's probably some of it that is just straight simplifying whats on master | 18:47 |
| notmyname | clayg: ahale yeah, you're right. it's a really good question (what, exactly, is this solving that isn't possible without this patch) | 18:47 |
| ahale | can you see https://github.com/rackerlabs/cloudfiles-rsync/blob/master/debian/patches/limit-fs-fullness.diff clayg | 18:48 |
| clayg | notmyname: I mean like you said "ostensibly" it solves the ability to give one number to a config and have it mean two numbers depending on the disks - but ... like do you have a situation where that number is so big that it's useful for it to be different? | 18:49 |
| clayg | notmyname: ahale is saying 5G is the number - which is what 0.1% on 4-8TB disks - i was honestly thinking 500M would be enough tombstones for anyone. But maybe we're missing the point. | 18:50 |
| ahale | yeah 500M 1G 5G whatevs | 18:51 |
| clayg | ahale: i can! nice! | 18:51 |
| ahale | im just saying limiting your rsync to the same as your swift processes makes sense - and the way we did that would have made rsync builds as new zones with bigger disks land | 18:52 |
| ahale | i dunno, it probably doesnt matter that much really - anyone with disks filling up that much probably has enough other problems to worry about than rsync slowly filling up in the background | 18:53 |
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| clayg | ahale: well, yeah clusters getting full is a fire no matter what - but it's annoying enough apparently that Swift not be fighting you while you're trying to fix it that at least you and us have tried to address the rsync issue - | 18:55 |
| clayg | that feeling you're about to ruin your day when you press enter on `sudo pip install --upgrade pip` | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: conf.d support + some refactoring https://review.openstack.org/301299 | 19:16 |
| clayg | redbo: ^ whoa! | 19:26 |
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| clayg | redbo: i'll star it - dust off https://github.com/swiftstack/vagrant-swift-all-in-one/tree/hummingbird and see if I can get unittests passing!? | 19:27 |
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| notmyname | can anyone else actually log in and make schedule selections on https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/ ? | 20:04 |
| clarkb | notmyname: I can | 20:05 |
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| clarkb | it uses your openstack foundation profile login | 20:05 |
| notmyname | clarkb: you can save sessions? I can log in to the openstack site overall, but the schedule page still shows "log in" and selecting a session doesn't give me any sort of "save this for later" or other way to mark it | 20:06 |
| notmyname | basically, I need to build up my calendar for the week | 20:06 |
| clarkb | ya I get a little + my calendar thing in each of the items which I can click on and they show up under "switch to my schedule" | 20:06 |
| notmyname | I've tried in chrome and safari. are you, by any chance, using firefox? | 20:07 |
| clarkb | I am using firefox | 20:07 |
| notmyname | apparently, so are the site devs ;-) | 20:07 |
| notmyname | oh, wait! maybe I just hadn't clicked enough | 20:10 |
| notmyname | I found a "(+) My calendar" link. doesn't seem to do anything. or where can I find my schedule? | 20:11 |
| clarkb | the + changes to a green check mark if it works, you can find the my schedule link at the top of any days main listing | 20:11 |
| notmyname | oh. no, I don't get that | 20:12 |
| clarkb | the my schedule link is to the right of the Calendar search filters toggle | 20:12 |
| notmyname | clearly I can't computer. not working in any of the 4 browsers I've tried (including firefox) | 20:18 |
| tdasilva | has anybody played with javaswift? http://javaswift.org/ | 20:23 |
| notmyname | no, but that's great! | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: added javaswift to associated projects https://review.openstack.org/301333 | 20:27 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: thanks :-) | 20:28 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: no problem. I just got asked about it, but had never heard of it before :/ | 20:29 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: i'm also seeing issues with clicking the + button to add to "my calendar" but when I click "Event Details" button I can see that it did get added to my schedule | 21:01 |
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| zaitcev | I just write the date and time on a piece of paper... | 21:03 |
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| tdasilva | zaitcev: :) that works too | 21:04 |
| zaitcev | tho I don't produce fire by rubbing 2 pieces of wood | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Fix upgrade bug in versioned_writes https://review.openstack.org/299686 | 21:46 |
| timburke | yay! | 21:46 |
| notmyname | yay | 21:48 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: timburke: FYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1556059. any thoughts? https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1556059 | 21:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1556059 in glance_store mitaka "stable mitaka gate broken after swiftclient release" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Tom Cocozzello (tjcocozz) | 21:54 |
| notmyname | oops. double paste | 21:54 |
| timburke | notmyname: sounds like not really our fault? "Due to how glance_store unit tests are implemented (stubbing private functions from swiftclient)..." | 21:55 |
| joeljwright | I just copied the same | 21:56 |
| timburke | i could probably come up with a patch to do it better | 21:56 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291682/ | 21:56 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 291682 - glance_store (stable/mitaka) - Mock swiftclient's functions in tests (MERGED) | 21:56 |
| joeljwright | to make the same comment | 21:56 |
| timburke | hey, yeah... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291495/ seems familiar... i think i saw that fly by in scrollback a while ago, was going to leave a couple comments, but then noticed it was already merged | 21:58 |
| patchbot | timburke: patch 291495 - glance_store - Mock swiftclient's functions in tests (MERGED) | 21:58 |
| timburke | things like "We never call swiftclient.client.get_object directly, right, only ever through swiftclient.client.Connection.get_object? Would it be better to just update fake_get_object to reflect that?" | 21:59 |
| timburke | and "As long as we're already using requests_mock, why not just set the content-length header there?" | 21:59 |
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| timburke | notmyname: submitted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301373/ | 22:19 |
| patchbot | timburke: patch 301373 - glance_store - Fix swiftclient mocks | 22:19 |
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| joeljwright | timburke: so no private stubbing required? nice. | 22:27 |
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| timburke | joeljwright: really, i suppose i ought to have it mock out Connection. there are still a lot of mocks for things like swiftclient.client.head_object (which they don't directly use) | 22:38 |
| joeljwright | yeah, that would make sense | 22:38 |
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| joeljwright | but in the grand scheme, just not mocking out things we're free to change is a good start | 22:42 |
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