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| torgomatic | anyone know how to run just one functional test with .functests? I tried "./.functests test.functional.test_object:TestObject.test_read_write" like worked with nosetests, but I guess we're using ostestr now (whatever that is) and what i typed doesn't work. | 01:10 |
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| torgomatic | also "./.functests --regex test.functional...." doesn't work either, FWIW | 01:11 |
| torgomatic | okay; got it; it's now "./.functests --no-discover test.functional.test_object.TestObject.test_read_write"; sort of like before, but with extra args and the module:ClassName is now module.ClassName (: to .) | 01:16 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: can you not still run them with nosetests? I was asking timburke how he manages with all this testr crazyness in python-swiftclient - and he was like yeah when I want to run a test I still use nose | 01:38 |
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| torgomatic | clayg: that's probably a good idea too; I was just used to using .functests | 02:08 |
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| vinsh | Hey! When using a dedicated replication network (different port for replicate and non replicate object-servers) AND making use of "servers_per_port". Do you need to configure a different port for each disks' replication port the same as the standard port? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/deployment_guide.html#running-object-servers-per-disk Is not clear about this combo. | 03:13 |
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| vinsh | So in that readme example.. "replication_port" might be 6004 6005 6004 6005. compared to "port" being 6000 6001 6000 6001 In that 2 node 2 disk example. ?? | 03:15 |
| clayg | vinsh: you do not need to configure a seperate port - you can configure the replication server's port and *not* configure the replication server to use servers per port | 03:15 |
| clayg | vinsh: no, i wouldn't configure it it that way - we just use one replication server with multiple workers for all disks (same replication port for all devices on the server) | 03:16 |
| vinsh | Hey clayg! I'm finally working on the session feedback you gave me from months ago :) this is priority number one. I wonder which has the most benifit for servers_per_port... standard port or replcation_port ? | 03:16 |
| vinsh | cool. Understood | 03:16 |
| clayg | there's not a lot of traffic that goes over the object server replication port (the rsync port is unrelated) | 03:16 |
| vinsh | I'm trying to get better perf out of my EC cluster... hope this gives me some boost in operations | 03:17 |
| vinsh | Good to know, I was thinking this was the case.. but needed to confirm. | 03:17 |
| clayg | vinsh: also since it's background work it tpooling of the listdirs in the suffix rehashing causes some stutter in response time's as observed from the remote object-replciator - they're not particuarlly latency sensitive clients | 03:17 |
| clayg | oic | 03:17 |
| clayg | well if you're looking at background reconstruction load in your ec cluster it's going to be quite different - in that it uses ssync as the primary data transport instead of rsync | 03:19 |
| vinsh | servers_per_port should be an improvement from just using "workers" as I am now. I'll roll this out and test | 03:19 |
| vinsh | Yeah, true.. but it shouldn't have to reconstruct much.. unless data goes missing | 03:19 |
| clayg | yes for the standard write path - ec or replicated - servers_per_pork (wokers per disk) is better overall latency and throughput | 03:19 |
| clayg | vinsh: correct | 03:20 |
| vinsh | I think I abused my cluster with ssbench a bit to hard. Even after deleting all objects and containers.. the logs on object nodes are a stream of messages similar to: "Feb 9 03:20:09 localhost swift-object-server: 24.26.92.208:6003/d100/8312 Unexpected response: ":ERROR: 500 'ERROR: With :UPDATES: 14 failures to 0 successes'"" | 03:21 |
| vinsh | Its like its trying to reconstruct or confirm deleted objects still. | 03:21 |
| vinsh | But that's another investigation ;) | 03:21 |
| vinsh | I think the only way I solved this in the past was to wipe the account/container drives clean. stop the ghost churn. | 03:22 |
| clayg | weeeeelll, it's maybe some issue with misplaced frags - or some bug related to moving tombstones - there was a few patches for EC reconstructor early on, and few outstanding fixes (all acoles stuff, great stuff, although nothing critical that I'm aware of) | 03:25 |
| clayg | ... you might want to do testing with the latest possible release/master you can get ahold of | 03:26 |
| vinsh | I'm running 2.5.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0.. so not the most current... but the most current ubuntu has published. | 03:26 |
| clayg | yeah 2.5.0 was liberty - there was some good stuff between then and 2.6.0 related to ec i'm *pretty* sure | 03:27 |
| * vinsh wants 2.6.0 goodness | 03:27 | |
| vinsh | clayg: Thanks for being such a helpful dude :) | 03:28 |
| clayg | vinsh: it's all a front - ask anyone - i'm an asshole | 03:29 |
| vinsh | ! :-D ! | 03:29 |
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| * vinsh gets to building master instead of waiting on cononical's package team. | 03:36 | |
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| mahatic | good morning | 04:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Speed up functional testing https://review.openstack.org/277465 | 04:31 |
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| mattoliverau | mahatic: morning (sorry for late response) | 05:09 |
| mahatic | mattoliverau: :) have a nice evening | 05:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/swift: Remove executable flag from sample config file https://review.openstack.org/277704 | 06:33 |
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| mahatic | mattoliverau: oh I got to read the scrollback only now; congrats on the house! | 06:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Changed EC backend from jerasure to liberasurecode in examples and docs https://review.openstack.org/274416 | 08:04 |
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| acoles | mattoliverau: wow! I love the idea of having "Surf Beach" as a line in my address :D | 09:03 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: the balcony looks like it would accommodate a hackathon :P | 09:04 |
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| acoles | torgomatic: clayg fwiw nosetests can still be used to run func tests individually (and collectively) e.g. nosetests ./test/functional/test_object.py:TestObject.test_too_small_x_timestamp | 09:21 |
| acoles | or if you are feeling lucky, nosetests ./test/functional/test_object.py -m too_small | 09:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Donagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift: Added links to API reference and usage guides https://review.openstack.org/276342 | 11:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Bartz proposed openstack/swift: Adds storage policy option to recon https://review.openstack.org/276629 | 12:40 |
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| andrey-mp | hello. what happens with swift3 project? I'm waiting for review since last August - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211933/ | 14:16 |
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| andrey-mp | who is it possible to review it? | 14:16 |
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| cbartz | andrey-mp: if nobody is answering you here, try to put it on the agenda of the swift meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 14:18 |
| andrey-mp | thank you! | 14:19 |
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| glange | or try again here later, a lot of people here are on west coast time | 14:44 |
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| acoles | or try #swift3 channel, or look for kota_ in here | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chaozhe Chen(ccz) proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Use "# noqa" instead of "#flake8: noqa" https://review.openstack.org/277927 | 16:19 |
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| acoles | jrichli: mahatic ^^ requirements.txt changed so we need this to pass gate checks | 16:43 |
| jrichli | acoles: ok, thx | 16:44 |
| mahatic | acoles: thanks | 16:44 |
| notmyname | good morning | 16:44 |
| acoles | good morning | 16:45 |
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| jrichli | good morning | 16:45 |
| mahatic | Morning! | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Mingyu Li proposed openstack/swift: Order the devices by (region, zone, ip, device) in the output of swift-ring-builder https://review.openstack.org/277956 | 16:49 |
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| venkat | Hi all | 17:25 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting now, to alleviate current performance impact and WebUI errors. | 17:25 | |
| venkat | sometimes I am getting the following error for memcache | 17:25 |
| venkat | STDERR: ERROR:root:Timeout getting a connection to memcached: 127.0.0.1:11211 | 17:25 |
| venkat | what is the reason | 17:25 |
| venkat | max_connections = 2 | 17:25 |
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| venkat | Hi someone can answer | 17:34 |
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| jrichli | venkat: have you looked at why your connection might be timing out? maybe some details on that investigation would help. | 17:40 |
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| manous_ | hello | 18:09 |
| manous_ | how can i get API KEY for use netdrive ? | 18:09 |
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| clayg | ohai! | 18:58 |
| siva_krishnan | Hi all! just had one quick question on ACL's. Can admin user grant read-write or full access to the non-existent user ? | 19:06 |
| jrichli | summit voting is open | 19:07 |
| clayg | jrichli: oh no! | 19:08 |
| clayg | siva_krishnan: sure! | 19:08 |
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| pdardeau | curiosity is killing me. what is the non-existent user? a placeholder of some kind? | 19:11 |
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| klrmn | pdardeau: i would guess a user that doesn't exist yet…or at least that swift hasn't created an account for yet. | 19:12 |
| siva_krishnan | +1 klrmn | 19:14 |
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| siva_krishnan | clayg: can you please let me know if it would be possible for an admin user to grant read-write access to user who is not existing in the system | 19:33 |
| notmyname | didn't he already answer "yes"? | 19:33 |
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| notmyname | siva_krishnan: there's no validation against an identity system when you set ACLs. so you can set it to any arbitrary string. of course, if it does end up matching something in the identity system, then you get what you expect (ie ACL functionality) | 19:35 |
| notmyname | so you can set the ACL values to anything you want. doesn't have to be a real user that exists right now | 19:35 |
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| pdardeau | notmyname: thanks for elaborating | 19:35 |
| siva_krishnan | notmyname: thanks for the info. | 19:37 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: should I indicate "docimpact" on the commit message for patch 252791? | 20:33 |
| patchbot | jrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252791/ - swift - Change POST-as-COPY to preserve the DLO manifest c... | 20:33 |
| notmyname | jrichli: that is a good question | 20:40 |
| notmyname | jrichli: the definition and what happens with docimpact has been changing lately | 20:40 |
| notmyname | jrichli: why do you think it should or should not have docimpact? | 20:40 |
| jrichli | notmyname: it includes doc changes. in particular, it is clarifying that a client must provide the x-object-manifest when POSTing to a dlo manifest. This behavior was something that had to be discussed on the related bug report. | 20:43 |
| jrichli | notmyname: but it doesn't seem like all doc changes require the docimpact, so i don't know where the line is drawn. | 20:43 |
| notmyname | ok, thanks. I asked because it is and has been so confusing as to when to use it! it's good to hear what other people think it's supposed to mean | 20:45 |
| notmyname | in general, docimpact is supposed to be for when a patch changes something that is documented in the openstack-manuals repo | 20:47 |
| notmyname | which raises the question, what's in the openstack-manuals repo? and I don't know ;-) | 20:47 |
| notmyname | however, docimpact is likely changing so that it will open a bug on swift itself saying something like "this patch had a docimpact tag" | 20:48 |
| notmyname | and much of the openstack-manuals content is moving into our own in-tree repo anyway | 20:49 |
| notmyname | (like at least some of the API docs) | 20:49 |
| notmyname | so all that being said, basically adding docimapct has one real result: asettle will come ask what to do with it | 20:49 |
| jrichli | lol. Well, asettle could point me to what is currently in the openstack-manuals, right? | 20:50 |
| notmyname | in theory. she and I talked a bunch about this last week in australia | 20:51 |
| jrichli | i would think that is straightforward : look at the repo in github? not so much? | 20:51 |
| notmyname | jrichli: it's the stuff hosted at http://docs.openstack.org | 20:52 |
| jrichli | ok, so thats what i frequently look at :-) | 20:52 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: so I would just make a proposal for how to add this specification into that format? and asettle can decide if it doesn't belong at that level I suppose | 20:55 |
| notmyname | jrichli: IMO we'll probably stop using docimpact. but for now there's not really any harm in adding it. | 20:55 |
| notmyname | and asettle hangs out in here. it's just before 8am for her now, so she'll probably be around in 90minutes or so | 20:55 |
| jrichli | ok. thanks! | 20:56 |
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| notmyname | redbo_: do you remember why swift's timestamp resolution is decimillisecond? | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: GREP middleware https://review.openstack.org/217381 | 21:00 |
| redbo_ | notmyname: nope | 21:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: GREP middleware https://review.openstack.org/217381 | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: more tests for pseudo/dir https://review.openstack.org/278090 | 21:15 |
| mrmoje | clayg, timburke: muchos gracias! | 21:17 |
| glange | decimilliseconds == microseconds, I think | 21:19 |
| glange | no, that's not right | 21:21 |
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| glange | it's also decideciseconds | 21:22 |
| glange | er, centicentiseconds | 21:23 |
| glange | like a second centipede | 21:23 |
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| mattoliverau | morning | 21:30 |
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| pdardeau | good morning mattoliverau | 21:43 |
| vinsh | Hey all.. when using "servers_per_port" does the "bind_port" setting matter? | 21:50 |
| vinsh | do you just set bind_port to every port you are using for each disk? | 21:50 |
| notmyname | vinsh: bind_port matters, but worker doesn't | 21:51 |
| vinsh | Suppose I have 30 disks and thus 30 different ports for "servers_per_port". what do I choose for "bind_port" ? | 21:51 |
| notmyname | vinsh: and yes, you'd end up with one object server config for each drive (each with a different bind_port setting). and then each drive in the ring would have a different port | 21:51 |
| vinsh | ah-hah! | 21:52 |
| vinsh | bind_port appears only under the DEFAULT section from what I can tell | 21:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Shashirekha Gundur proposed openstack/swift: change default ports for servers https://review.openstack.org/274840 | 21:53 |
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| clayg | notmyname: I always thought it had to do with float precision of six-digit literal flots! | 21:59 |
| vinsh | notmyname: Can you describe the config section a bit more? | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Insert versioned_writes in correct pipeline position https://review.openstack.org/273073 | 21:59 |
| vinsh | If I start an object server with servers_per_port set. it starts x number of servers per port defined for that ip in the ring. | 21:59 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah. or maybe some platforms don't give microseconds? | 21:59 |
| vinsh | I can't then start another object server because that port is now in use. | 22:00 |
| clayg | notmyname: some python floats can be "equal" even tho they have different first six digits (1455054922.062829 == 1455054922.0628289) | 22:00 |
| clayg | notmyname: ^ i don't think that's true for the first five digits? | 22:00 |
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| notmyname | ah, interesting | 22:00 |
| notmyname | by which I mean "that's terrible" | 22:01 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 22:01 |
| notmyname | vinsh: suppose you have 3 drives A, B, C | 22:01 |
| notmyname | vinsh: and you have servers_per_port set to 2 | 22:01 |
| clayg | notmyname: i mean if you're giving 10 digits to the before the decimal you ony have so much precision afterwards - and the answer of how "how much" was 5 digits | 22:01 |
| clayg | at least that's always what I told myself | 22:02 |
| notmyname | vinsh: so you'd end up with 3 config files. each with a different bind_port. eg 10001, 10002, 10003 | 22:02 |
| vinsh | so object-server/1.conf 2.conf 3.conf maybe. | 22:02 |
| notmyname | vinsh: so you start each of these object servers, and they will each make 2 workers | 22:02 |
| notmyname | yeah | 22:02 |
| vinsh | ah. but they create 6 | 22:02 |
| vinsh | not just 2 | 22:02 |
| clayg | 6 object-server conf? that's baller | 22:03 |
| notmyname | and in your ring, you'll add the 3 drives and importantly add them with their specific ports | 22:03 |
| vinsh | In notmyname's example. when I start the first server. it starts 6. not just 2. | 22:03 |
| notmyname | vinsh: create 6? ie 3 servers each with 2 child? | 22:03 |
| vinsh | yes | 22:03 |
| notmyname | vinsh: ah, that's not right. you need to make sure the ring is updated | 22:03 |
| notmyname | vinsh: with different ports | 22:04 |
| vinsh | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/db24938f2c603f3c6106 | 22:04 |
| notmyname | so that each will only start workers for it's "local" drives. where local == drives with the same ip and port as the loaded config | 22:04 |
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| notmyname | you repeat ports in there | 22:05 |
| notmyname | oh wait | 22:05 |
| notmyname | sorry. you're right | 22:05 |
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| vinsh | I PRONMISE to put up a doc review/update once I can make more sense of how this is done :) | 22:06 |
| vinsh | *PROMISE | 22:06 |
| notmyname | :-) | 22:06 |
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| notmyname | I've set it up myself. it's just been a while :-) | 22:06 |
| notmyname | what's your workers_per_port setting? | 22:07 |
| notmyname | servers_per_port | 22:07 |
| vinsh | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/19903ced8cf5a6853491 | 22:07 |
| vinsh | thats object-server/1.conf for example. | 22:07 |
| timburke | notmyname: clayg: oh, of course! we've only got a 52-bit significand in a 64-bit float and 1e5 < (1<<53) / 1e10 < 1e6 | 22:08 |
| vinsh | since that node has 4 drives. starting this file will start 8 workers total. | 22:08 |
| vinsh | but that file only has a bind_port for 1/4 ports used in the ring. | 22:08 |
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| * notmyname wonders if swifterdarrell is busy | 22:09 | |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Keller proposed openstack/swift: Headers now use a case incensitive dictionary https://review.openstack.org/274906 | 22:09 |
| vinsh | Oh. I can omit bing_port from 1.conf and servers start no problem | 22:11 |
| vinsh | *bind | 22:11 |
| vinsh | Which makes sense I guess.. since thats what servers_per_port is all about.. using the ring to spawn wokers per port per local ip | 22:11 |
| notmyname | you shouldn't be able to omit bind_port. it's been required for a while | 22:14 |
| notmyname | vinsh: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/deployment_guide.html#running-object-servers-per-disk | 22:15 |
| vinsh | well. I can omit it and it works | 22:16 |
| vinsh | that deployment guide makes no mention of different config sections per server port | 22:16 |
| vinsh | I have read it 10 times over :) | 22:16 |
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| notmyname | asettle: good morning. jrichli had a question for you earlier | 22:24 |
| notmyname | about docimpact | 22:24 |
| asettle | notmyname: what can I help with? | 22:24 |
| jrichli | asettle: I was thinking we might want to make doc updates for patch 252791 | 22:25 |
| patchbot | jrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252791/ - swift - Change POST-as-COPY to preserve the DLO manifest c... | 22:25 |
| asettle | Yep, let me look | 22:26 |
| jrichli | thx | 22:26 |
| asettle | jrichli: so you're looking at getting this content moved into the openstack-manuals side of things? | 22:27 |
| jrichli | asettle: once this patch would be merged, I would think we could add a statement about having to specify the "x-object-manifest" for a DLO manifest in the Object POST area. | 22:28 |
| jrichli | yes, into openstack-manuals | 22:29 |
| asettle | Give meeee a minuteeee :) if you want, I am happy to be assigned to this patch so I can monitor when it's merged. Let me just double check we actually have DLO info in the manuals. | 22:30 |
| asettle | If not, would you like that to be added into the os-manuals? | 22:30 |
| asettle | The whole thing, that is. | 22:30 |
| jrichli | asettle: I dont feel that is my call ... I know that DLO is at least mentioned in some spots now, such as "the manifest is returned in the X-Object-Manifest response header for dynamic large objects" | 22:32 |
| asettle | Yep, okay. Fair :) sorry, throwing out ideas... I literally just woke up. Haha. | 22:33 |
| jrichli | asettle: no worries. good morning! | 22:33 |
| asettle | Haha thank you! :) | 22:34 |
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| asettle | Okay, I'll look into this for you. If possible jrichli could you please file a bug in OS manuals, tag swift and assign me? Explain what it is you're looking to add and I'll ensure that information gets added in :) | 22:35 |
| jrichli | ok, will do | 22:35 |
| notmyname | vinsh: ok, after some code diving... | 22:39 |
| vinsh | o/ | 22:39 |
| asettle | jrichli: thank you kindly :) | 22:40 |
| notmyname | vinsh: you want one config file. set servers_per_port to whatever. make sure you have a different port for each drive in the ring. it would seem that bind_port should be removed (instead of it being ignored) | 22:40 |
| notmyname | vinsh: so yeah. what you got to, I think :-) | 22:41 |
| jrichli | asettle notmyname: thank you | 22:41 |
| vinsh | Perfect, I concur with your read notmyname. Thank's for looking at this with me! | 22:41 |
| notmyname | vinsh: good luck! (I've seen it improve performance in clusters) | 22:41 |
| vinsh | cranking up our EC cluster by using server_per_port. | 22:41 |
| vinsh | video team wants more I/O. I'll give them more I/O ;) | 22:42 |
| vinsh | I wonder servers_per_port makes sense for account/container rings. probably not as much. | 22:42 |
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| torgomatic | vinsh: might still be worth doing. the point of it is to distribute the blocking file IO among multiple processes so there can be lots of concurrent IOs going. sqlite locking adds some overhead, but there's still disk IO going on | 22:49 |
| vinsh | So account/container servers will use this feature? | 22:49 |
| vinsh | I think I'll give this a try! | 22:49 |
| clayg | vinsh: not until someone writes that code - I don't think it'll work as-is - object-server only | 22:50 |
| vinsh | d'oh :D | 22:50 |
| * vinsh wants turbo everything. | 22:50 | |
| vinsh | One last question for the day... when using EC.. has the ccount/container ring been setup using EC or is it strictly the object ring? | 22:52 |
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| vinsh | oh nevermind. | 22:53 |
| vinsh | there is no "swift-account|container-reconstructor" | 22:53 |
| vinsh | duh. | 22:53 |
| notmyname | right. accounts and containers are only replicated. no separate storage policies there | 22:53 |
| torgomatic | oh. heh. forgot about that little detail. | 22:56 |
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| jrichli | asettle: I was only allowed to add you as a subscriber to the bug, but not allowed to assign to anyone outside of my IBM Stackers team. unless i am doing it wrong ;-) | 23:05 |
| asettle | jrichli: haha oh right! OKay. let me go take a look :) | 23:06 |
| asettle | Excellente, fixed that :) | 23:07 |
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| jrichli | asettle: thx! | 23:08 |
| asettle | No problem :) if i'm not online, feel free to just subscribe me to bug reports - i'll keep an eye out for them. | 23:09 |
| asettle | If not, just email me | 23:09 |
| asettle | alexandra.settle@rackspace.com | 23:09 |
| asettle | I'm Australia BNE... which is like... something smoething +10 (it's early, don't judge me) | 23:09 |
| asettle | Next week I'll be UK though, so I'll be online a little more often for the US | 23:09 |
| jrichli | asettle: great! I already had to look you up on linkedin to find out whether to use the id/email you had for rackspace or redhat :-) | 23:10 |
| asettle | HAHA OHHHH yes apologies. Racker ;) | 23:11 |
| asettle | I really should make that clearer somewhere. | 23:11 |
| jrichli | asettle: np. Have fun in the UK! | 23:11 |
| asettle | Will do! Thank you :) | 23:11 |
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| notmyname | jrichli: also, asettle will join us for the hackathon | 23:16 |
| asettle | Oh yes, I'll be there. | 23:16 |
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| torgomatic | the best part about centimillisecond precision is that it'll be too much someday | 23:31 |
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| ho_ | good morning! | 23:50 |
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| mattoliverau | ho_: morning | 23:52 |
| ho_ | mattoliverau: morning! | 23:54 |
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