| arcimboldo | and strange, because from https://swiftstack.com/blog/2015/04/30/erasure-codes-now-a-part-of-openstack-kilo/ for instance it seems it should be there | 00:00 |
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| notmyname | arcimboldo: right. so it was actually in the 2.3 release | 00:00 |
| notmyname | as a beta, "dont really use but definitely test" sort of thing | 00:00 |
| arcimboldo | ok, the second question is indeed: how production ready is EC? | 00:00 |
| notmyname | we found and fixed a lot of stuff based on all that testing, and I'd recommend using EC in 2.5+ | 00:00 |
| arcimboldo | Assuming we will start putting production data middle 2016 | 00:01 |
| notmyname | arcimboldo: totally reasonable for that | 00:01 |
| notmyname | arcimboldo: it's production ready-ish today. we have a few things we want to improve (some with patches proposed already), but there are no outstanding major issues that we know of, and we're treating it like we do with replicated data (ie expected to work and if it doesn't its a major issue) | 00:02 |
| notmyname | arcimboldo: there are people now who are rolling into use. by mid-2016 (your timeframe) it will be even better :-) | 00:02 |
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| arcimboldo | so, back to problem 1: I've corrupted my file, and then waited for the auditor to fix it | 00:04 |
| notmyname | ok | 00:04 |
| arcimboldo | the auditor copied the files in quarantine, and copied back the original file from another node | 00:05 |
| notmyname | and you got that traceback | 00:05 |
| notmyname | good | 00:05 |
| arcimboldo | but the file in quarantine is still there | 00:05 |
| notmyname | right | 00:05 |
| notmyname | that's expected and by design | 00:05 |
| arcimboldo | yes I've got the traceback, I don't know if it's hramless | 00:05 |
| arcimboldo | ah, ok, so quarantine files are not deleted automatically? | 00:05 |
| notmyname | correct | 00:05 |
| arcimboldo | ok, it does make sense | 00:06 |
| arcimboldo | as long as you remember to check the quarantine directory periodically :) | 00:06 |
| arcimboldo | (although I don't expect to have much of these issues) | 00:06 |
| arcimboldo | so, is there a place where I can download newer versions of swift for ubuntu? Or I have to use the liberty repository? | 00:07 |
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| notmyname | arcimboldo: I think canonical just packages swift under the combined openstack release names. so yeah, on ubuntu getting "liberty" will get you swift 2.5.0 | 00:08 |
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| notmyname | arcimboldo: most people I know who deploy swift end up building their own packages so they can not lag as far as canonical does (eg the missing 2.3 swift release that they never packaged) | 00:09 |
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| arcimboldo | yes, I'm pretty unsatisfied with the canonical packaging | 00:10 |
| arcimboldo | next question: If I understood correctly from the doc, I could, in principle, create two policies (replica and EC) and two rings, but they can still use the same disks, right? | 00:13 |
| notmyname | absolutely, yes | 00:13 |
| arcimboldo | and I can set the storage policy at container level. I just couldn't find a command line option for "openstack container create" or "swift post", there isn't any? | 00:14 |
| notmyname | arcimboldo: as a header `swift post new_contianer -H "x-storage-policy: sooperdooper"` | 00:15 |
| arcimboldo | not very user friendly :- | 00:16 |
| arcimboldo | :-/ | 00:16 |
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| arcimboldo | is there a reason why there isn't an option like --storage-policy ? | 00:16 |
| notmyname | I won't argue with that | 00:16 |
| notmyname | only because nobody has typed in that code | 00:16 |
| arcimboldo | or just nobody developed it? | 00:16 |
| arcimboldo | ah ok | 00:16 |
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| arcimboldo | something to do when I completely stop sleeping | 00:17 |
| notmyname | yeah, I was just wondering about that... ;-) | 00:17 |
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| clayg | headers are totally user friendly! | 00:18 |
| arcimboldo | clayg, it depends on the user | 00:18 |
| notmyname | could be some weird json data structre | 00:19 |
| arcimboldo | I agree, it could be worst | 00:19 |
| arcimboldo | it could be SOAP | 00:19 |
| clayg | SOAP isn't even *developer* friendly | 00:21 |
| torgomatic | the S is for sadism | 00:24 |
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| notmyname | arcimboldo: I'm looking into that exception | 00:36 |
| arcimboldo | don't bother, I've just upgraded to swift 2.5 (liberty) | 00:39 |
| notmyname | arcimboldo: I'm glad you've upgraded, but I still want to look at it :-) | 00:40 |
| notmyname | I wasn't seeing the exception, but I did see a weird log line I didn't expect | 00:41 |
| arcimboldo | I also have a new problem in case you get bored :) | 00:42 |
| notmyname | heh, ok | 00:42 |
| notmyname | what? | 00:42 |
| arcimboldo | on one of the 3 nodes, proxy-server doesn't start | 00:42 |
| arcimboldo | it's complaining about "EC ring for policy cold needs to be configured with exactly 3 nodes. Got 2." | 00:42 |
| arcimboldo | which is strange because swift.conf is the same on all of the nodes | 00:43 |
| clayg | check ring md5's? | 00:43 |
| arcimboldo | ah ok, it didn't restart the daemon on all of them | 00:43 |
| arcimboldo | so, the conf and/or the ring is wrong | 00:43 |
| arcimboldo | I'm using 2 data fragments, 1 parity fragment, and have 3 nodes | 00:44 |
| arcimboldo | let met check the ring again | 00:44 |
| arcimboldo | ah, ok, I probably created the ring wrongly | 00:45 |
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| arcimboldo | aaand I've deleted all my ring files :) | 00:48 |
| notmyname | intentionally, I hope | 00:49 |
| arcimboldo | not really, but it's a testbed | 00:50 |
| arcimboldo | if I lose the rings, I basically lose all of my data right? | 00:50 |
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| clayg | arcimboldo: builders can write_ring - you can even restore the builder from the ring - but there is some fidelity loss | 00:52 |
| clayg | arcimboldo: but if you loose both - it'd be some surgury - try not to loose them | 00:52 |
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| arcimboldo | wow, EC works | 01:02 |
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| notmyname | of course it does ;-) | 01:03 |
| arcimboldo | I had a few errors, probably because I didn't restart the daemon after upgrading :-( | 01:07 |
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| clayg | it does!? | 01:10 |
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| arcimboldo | uhm, it doesn't replicate the fragment, after I've corrupted the file | 01:12 |
| arcimboldo | who is responsible to replicate the data when EC is used? | 01:13 |
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| arcimboldo | ah, ok, you need the object-reconstructor daemon, which is not started on ubuntu apparently | 01:18 |
| notmyname | arcimboldo: right. object-reconstructor is what does EC fixing | 01:19 |
| arcimboldo | the ubuntu package is missing the upstart script to start it | 01:19 |
| arcimboldo | 'night | 01:22 |
| notmyname | :-) | 01:23 |
| notmyname | I think I figured out the weird traceback/error | 01:27 |
| notmyname | int he auditor | 01:27 |
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| notmyname | with running the auditor in once mode, it starts both audit passes. and when the 2nd one gets to the corrupted file, it no longer exists and gives an error | 01:27 |
| notmyname | I think it's a weird side effect of how it's run, but not something that would be seen normally | 01:28 |
| notmyname | kids home. I'm out for the night | 01:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Lisák proposed openstack/swift: Log error if a local device not identified in replicator https://review.openstack.org/243040 | 13:05 |
| openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/swift: OpenStack typo https://review.openstack.org/243608 | 13:09 |
| openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/swift: OpenStack typo https://review.openstack.org/243608 | 13:25 |
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| arcimboldo | hi all, I have trouble configuring swift (liberty) to use s3 token with keystone (kilo) | 14:17 |
| arcimboldo | It seems swift is not authenticating to keystone when it's trying to verify the token | 14:18 |
| arcimboldo | or the access/secret keys | 14:18 |
| arcimboldo | not sure how it actually works... | 14:18 |
| arcimboldo | actually, it's sending the access key plus a token. Wher the toke comes from? It's not the secret key | 14:22 |
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| arcimboldo | got it | 14:34 |
| arcimboldo | question: is it possible to have "write/read_affinity" settings for erasure coded ring? | 14:39 |
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