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| kota_ | morning. | 00:46 |
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| kota_ | seems like swift 2.5.0 has been proposed in gerrit, great work. | 00:49 |
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| mattoliverau | kota_: morning | 01:17 |
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| cschwede | Good Morning! | 06:35 |
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| cschwede | acoles: thanks for taking care of patch 227133! great to see it landed | 06:46 |
| patchbot | cschwede: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227133/ - Fix copy requests to service accounts in Keystone | 06:46 |
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| notmyname | hello cschwede :-) | 06:49 |
| cschwede | notmyname: Good Evening John! | 06:49 |
| notmyname | I was just about to shut down for the night, and I saw you were here | 06:50 |
| cschwede | notmyname: and i was wondering that you’re still around, pretty late Sunday evening! I’m finally back home, and happy to have IRC access again | 06:51 |
| notmyname | yay | 06:51 |
| cschwede | notmyname: thanks for reviewing the copy requests patch. glad that it made it into the release | 06:54 |
| notmyname | yeah, it needed to | 06:54 |
| notmyname | midnight here. I need my beauty sleep for the new week ;-) | 06:58 |
| cschwede | notmyname: have a good night and talk to you soon! | 06:59 |
| notmyname | likewise | 06:59 |
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| hugokuo | @mattoliverau : around ? | 09:33 |
| hugokuo | @mattoliverau In this patch, does user need to have an override flag in the request for DELETE an object which is not yet replicated to other regions under write-affinity condition ? | 09:35 |
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| hugokuo | FYI : https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/f4d3facdf4b6ec8ee0dcacc7be8999731c68a8ec | 09:43 |
| mattoliverau | hugokuo: I'm kinda here, its evening so not working. I assume your talking about the handoff affinity patch. No you don't, when the handoff replicate the object they replicate the create timestamp, so if it was deleted while on a handoff, that request will also be time-stamped and eventually become consistent. | 09:46 |
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| mattoliverau | Wow sorry that sentence was hard to read :p | 09:47 |
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| hugokuo | @mattoliverau Sorry for bothering you in off time. your sentence is easy for reading. No problem. So if {204, 404, 404} on delete, it still returns 404 to user. | 09:54 |
| hugokuo | We can talk about that in your working hour :0 | 09:56 |
| mattoliverau | Oh that one. Yeah it should apply the override only if quroum hasn't been reached.. From memory | 09:57 |
| hugokuo | Does user need to pass in override option or something in the request ? | 09:59 |
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| mattoliverau | No, its managed in code, not by user. | 10:08 |
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| onovy | acoles, classicsnail, cschwede, glange, mattoliverau, notmyname: hi, can i ask you for review please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210736/ thank you | 11:45 |
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| haypo | hey! can we now talk again about python3? i have pending patches which are waiting for _your_ review :-) | 12:41 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217423/ py3: Update pbr and dnspython requirements | 12:41 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217424/ Input validation must not depend on the locale | 12:41 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217425/ Port swob to Python 3 | 12:42 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217426/ py3: Fix Python 3 issues in utils | 12:42 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199034/ py3: Add py34 test environment to tox | 12:42 |
| haypo | the last one still has a hack for PyEClib 1.0.7 which is no more needed in PyEClib 1.0.8, but I see that Swift still uses PyEClib 1.0.7 :-/ | 12:42 |
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| zigo | haypo: The limit for PyECLib 1.0.7 is there *only* because the gate needs a proper fix. Version above 1.0.7 removed embedded code for jerasure and such, which broke the gate ... | 14:29 |
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| zigo | haypo: So it's not really an issue in swift itself. | 14:29 |
| haypo | zigo: yeah, it now only comes with liberasurecode-1.0.9.tar.gz | 14:31 |
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| haypo | zigo: whereas pyelibc <= 1.0.7 came with gf-complete-1.0.tar.gz, jerasure-2.0.tar.gz, liberasurecode-1.0.7.tar.gz | 14:31 |
| haypo | zigo: it's a good thing no? a Python binding is not supposed to install the binded library | 14:32 |
| haypo | zigo: we should install the library with something called a package no? :) | 14:32 |
| zigo | haypo: Correct, and these have been removed ... because I asked ! :) | 14:32 |
| zigo | So, the gate and distros have conflicting interests ... | 14:33 |
| zigo | Not the first time! :) | 14:33 |
| haypo | zigo: thanks for that :) | 14:34 |
| haypo | zigo: i'm proud of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226815/ & https://review.openstack.org/226837 :) | 14:35 |
| haypo | zigo: but congress still embeds antlr3 java source code + binary JAR + python binding | 14:35 |
| zigo | haypo: And that's one reason why I can't upload it to Debian. | 14:36 |
| zigo | It also doesn't support the version of antlr in Debian. | 14:36 |
| zigo | I told them in Vancouver, but so far, no change ... | 14:36 |
| haypo | zigo: i opened an issue in antlr3 to ask to publish the python 3 binding | 14:37 |
| haypo | zigo: their answer is that the development is now focused on antlr4, the new stable version | 14:37 |
| zigo | Ah, good, thanks ! :) | 14:37 |
| haypo | zigo: :-p | 14:37 |
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| zigo | Oh ok. | 14:37 |
| zigo | Well, someone is currently working on packaging antlr4. | 14:37 |
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| haypo | zigo: congress dev may drop antlr to use a different parser generator | 14:37 |
| zigo | So if the congress team works on that, maybe that's our exit path. | 14:37 |
| zigo | Ah, even better! | 14:38 |
| haypo | (IMHO it would be move *convenient* to use something in python) | 14:38 |
| zigo | I'm not so fan of having this kind of java dependency. | 14:38 |
| zigo | Right. | 14:38 |
| haypo | zigo: it's only a build dependency, no? | 14:38 |
| zigo | As much as I know (but I'm not sure), it's a runtime dependency. | 14:38 |
| zigo | No ? | 14:38 |
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| haypo | zigo: you may even drop all antlr java stuff if ConfigParser & ConfigLexer are in the release (which is the case) | 14:38 |
| haypo | zigo: ah? sorry, no idea :-p | 14:39 |
| zigo | haypo: I'll ask again what's the state of things in Tokyo... :P | 14:39 |
| haypo | (i hope no, for me it's a parser *generator*, only needed to rebuild ConfigParser & ConfigLexer.py) | 14:39 |
| haypo | zigo: ok | 14:39 |
| zigo | Oh ok. | 14:39 |
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| prometheanfire | what version of pbr is allowed in swift? | 14:41 |
| prometheanfire | don't see it in requirements or test-requirements | 14:41 |
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| prometheanfire | I switched the dep to be >=0.8 and <2.0 | 14:45 |
| prometheanfire | though to keep in line with the rest of openstack it is probably >=1.6 | 14:45 |
| zigo | prometheanfire: Please don't put a <2.0 cap anymore. | 14:45 |
| zigo | According to Robert Collins, this is a "time bomb" to do so ! :) | 14:46 |
| prometheanfire | even for liberty, which I though was going to be capped soon? | 14:46 |
| zigo | (and I agree with him) | 14:46 |
| prometheanfire | I agree that I don't like caps, but isn't all of liberty getting a cap soon | 14:46 |
| zigo | prometheanfire: For Kilo, there was such cap as <1.0, but it was in fact completely useless, and it brings more trouble than fixes. | 14:46 |
| prometheanfire | right | 14:47 |
| prometheanfire | so where is that documented for swift | 14:47 |
| zigo | prometheanfire: The gate being fixed with caps have also nothing to do with what you should put in your requirements. | 14:47 |
| prometheanfire | because I didn't see it all all, I just saw that it requires pbr | 14:47 |
| zigo | (if a cap ever really "fixed" anything...) | 14:47 |
| prometheanfire | I'm packaging it, I need to match what's tested | 14:47 |
| zigo | Do you package it for Red Hat? | 14:48 |
| prometheanfire | gentoo | 14:48 |
| zigo | Ok. | 14:48 |
| prometheanfire | '/who zigo | 14:48 |
| prometheanfire | :P | 14:48 |
| * zigo is the Debian openstack package maintainer | 14:48 | |
| zigo | I maintain all of this: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=openstack-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org | 14:48 |
| prometheanfire | yep, I've seen ya | 14:48 |
| zigo | BTW, I'd like to find a howto for setting-up swift on a all-in-one server for my tests. | 14:49 |
| zigo | What's the best tutorial for it? | 14:49 |
| zigo | Is it even possible to do a single node? | 14:49 |
| tdasilva | zigo: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_saio.html | 14:50 |
| prometheanfire | saio | 14:50 |
| zigo | Thanks ! | 14:50 |
| zigo | Hum... | 14:50 |
| zigo | tdasilva: Is it ok to *not* use a specific partition? | 14:50 |
| janonymous | You could directly build an rpm from setup.py of swift | 14:51 |
| zigo | I could add a xvdb (my test node is a Xen VM...), but that's rather annoying. | 14:51 |
| tdasilva | zigo: you can use loopback devices | 14:51 |
| haypo | prometheanfire: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217423/ | 14:51 |
| zigo | tdasilva: Right, I'll do that. | 14:51 |
| zigo | I already do that for Cinder. | 14:51 |
| zigo | :) | 14:51 |
| zigo | Thanks for the tips. | 14:51 |
| tdasilva | zigo: https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/doc/source/associated_projects.rst#developer-tools | 14:51 |
| prometheanfire | haypo: thanks, that's what I thought it was going to be | 14:51 |
| zigo | tdasilva: Any idea what's the minimum size for Tempest to use? | 14:52 |
| prometheanfire | zigo: http://euscan.gentooexperimental.org/maintainers/prometheanfire@gentoo.org/ been waiting on liberty to drop to update a bunch of them | 14:52 |
| zigo | I already provision a 40GB loopback for Cinder, so I don't have much left on my 100GB HDD for that VM. | 14:52 |
| tdasilva | zigo: no, not sure...sorry | 14:53 |
| zigo | I'll just try with 20GB, and see how it goes. | 14:53 |
| zigo | Thanks. | 14:53 |
| prometheanfire | better to add proper test support to the package itself, then you can have it run automatically for each 'packaging' | 14:53 |
| haypo | prometheanfire: the pbr version may have change since i wrote the change | 14:54 |
| haypo | prometheanfire: i didn't update it recently | 14:54 |
| prometheanfire | haypo: whatever works, just want it doc'd (preferably in reqs.txt) | 14:54 |
| glange | you should be able to run tempest in a teapot | 14:54 |
| prometheanfire | it's basically what I do, in a namespace | 14:54 |
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| prometheanfire | disallows network access so sometimes a project will fail because of that, but that's a proj bug anyway | 14:55 |
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| prometheanfire | haypo: anyway, thanks for setting me straight there, also, cya :D | 15:04 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 16:40 |
| joeljwright | morning | 16:40 |
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| janonymous | notmyname: joeljwright : o/ | 16:54 |
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| notmyname | swifterdarrell: with the servers_per_port setting, the default bind_port in the config doesn't seem to matter (or at least as much). the ports that are used are what's in the ring, not in the conf file | 17:01 |
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| notmyname | swifterdarrell: which makes me think that eventually we won't need bind_port in the config file | 17:04 |
| notmyname | swifterdarrell: eg in some future time when everything in streamlined and servers_per_port is the way you do everything, and it's set with a value >= 1 | 17:05 |
| notmyname | swifterdarrell: is my understanding correct? did I miss something? and do you think eventually the bind_port setting might go away? | 17:05 |
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| notmyname | this week, please be thinking about the topics to cover at the summit https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-summit-swift | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: EC: Avoid conflicts when ssync'ing to handoffs https://review.openstack.org/181407 | 17:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Make ECDiskFile report all fragments found on disk https://review.openstack.org/231121 | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Enable object server to return non-durable data https://review.openstack.org/215276 | 17:58 |
| clayg | notmyname: I expect that it will be common for the replication server process still use a single bind_port for all the disks (that's how we do servers_per_port currently) - but as always really it just matters what's in the ring (wrt what port the object-replicator talks to) - so maybe the option *could* go away - but that's not really been identified as a desirable target (like no one is trying to get rid of it afaik) | 18:00 |
| notmyname | yeah, that makes sense. I started thinking (I know, dangerous) when I was looking at the devstack patch/bug to change the bind_port in Swift to not conflict with X | 18:01 |
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| notmyname | and when playing with servers_per_port in my saio | 18:01 |
| notmyname | and I realized that with the new settings, the config doesn't matter as much when figuring out where the servers actually listen. | 18:01 |
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| peluse_ | yo! | 18:15 |
| notmyname | peluse_: hi stranger! | 18:15 |
| peluse_ | yeah, rough week - totally offline (well 99%) but I'm back (well 99%) :) | 18:16 |
| notmyname | I hope this week is better for you, and we're glad to have you back :-) | 18:16 |
| notmyname | while you were gone we had a release. you left us will all the fun stuff ;-) | 18:16 |
| peluse_ | a release??? do I cheer or panic? | 18:18 |
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| peluse_ | FYI this week for the perf stuff I'm rerunning with the nodes on trusty (were on precise) and also will rerun with a different EC ratio. I ran the same tests on a smaller cluster and didn't see the big jump in node mem usage so trying to narrow that down | 18:19 |
| wbhuber | peluse_: what new EC ratio are you running? the conclusion is about the same between two ratios basically? | 18:20 |
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| peluse_ | wbhuber, I'm just going to experiment. On a smaller cluster (5 nodes, 15 SAS drives each all high end Xeon) I had a 3:2. Going to bump that one up and run the 3:2 on the larger clsuter for some sample data points | 18:22 |
| peluse_ | wbhuber, to be clear I'm not looking at perf as the main thing in dorking with ratios right now, looking at node mem usage impact | 18:26 |
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| notmyname | current graphs of community activity. nice to look at right after a release | 18:33 |
| notmyname | http://d.not.mn/contrib_activity.png | 18:33 |
| notmyname | http://d.not.mn/total_contribs.png | 18:33 |
| notmyname | http://d.not.mn/active_contribs.png | 18:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zack M. Davis proposed openstack/swift: replace use of deprecated rfc822.Message with a helper utility https://review.openstack.org/203304 | 19:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/swift-bench: Try to detect HTTP proxy and warn about it. https://review.openstack.org/210736 | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Close ECAppIter's sub-generators before propagating GeneratorExit https://review.openstack.org/231164 | 20:31 |
| clayg | ^ that was a bit tricky to track down the timeout that was popping :\ | 20:32 |
| clayg | ... during unittests | 20:32 |
| notmyname | ah, thank | 20:32 |
| notmyname | I had seen it on some earlier tests runs last week, but not by the end of the week | 20:33 |
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| dfg_ | clayg: is that what was causing the thing in the concurrent gets? | 20:59 |
| dfg_ | i was looking at that this morning and it was weird | 21:00 |
| dfg_ | clayg: cool- your patch does make that timeout thing stop popping up during unittests. | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | dfg_: great! | 21:04 |
| notmyname | (clayg had to step away for a bit) | 21:04 |
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| dfg_ | clayg: but I was looking at EC. it already has a concurrent gets thing. and now it'll be calling _get_source.. which will makes its own greenasyncpile. anyway. i'm sure you already knew all this. anyway- i'll keep playing around with that patch | 21:10 |
| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:14 |
| dfg_ | mattoliverau: looks like clayg fixed that error message. | 21:19 |
| dfg_ | what i said in the review wasn't happening anyway | 21:20 |
| dfg_ | or at least it wasn't causing that. | 21:20 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ I didn't cause it! | 21:23 |
| dfg_ | :) | 21:23 |
| dfg_ | ya- it was weird. it was being raised while trying to feed data back out to client and only from EC stuff. thats as far as i got to tracking it down this morning. | 21:26 |
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| setmason | Q: Is it possible to configure Swift to have per-Tenant storage policies? | 21:29 |
| setmason | or rather per-account | 21:29 |
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| clayg | dfg_: I'm not sure I'm familar with the issue you are describing with concurrent gets - so you might should keep blood-houndin' it | 21:34 |
| clayg | OTOH, it might be related to the thing with the unittest noise - in which case - yippee? | 21:34 |
| dfg_ | clayg: ya i think it is just with unittest noise. it was funny- i changed the chunkwritetimeout to 33 no error but with 34 gave error. | 21:37 |
| clayg | OMG ML - how are we still having posts about "what's the difference between Cinder and Swift?" - it's like - did you even *try* to find out before asking? | 21:37 |
| clayg | heh - i had to hack nose to to eventlet sleep before systemexit :P | 21:38 |
| dfg_ | clayg: but you don't care about the greenasyncpile calling the greenasyncpile stuff? i guess those things are cheap | 21:39 |
| clayg | dfg_: i probably don't know which beit you're referring too - either it changed since the last time I looked at it - or I forgot | 21:40 |
| clayg | but yeah greenasyncpile is as cheap as any other dict having object - as far as the hub is concerened it's all the same | 21:41 |
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| dfg_ | clayg: ya its just _get_or_head_response in obj controller made a greenasyncpile and spawned _fragment_GET_request which calls, response_parts_iter which calls _get_source_and_node which will now make another greenasyncpile. which for EC you'd probably never have concurrency>1 because there aren't multiple copies of the object? idk. anyway- i don't care all that much- its prob fine. i'll keep trying conc GETs out. | 21:46 |
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| clayg | oic - yeah I find the EC get path after all the range fixes very difficult to follow - it's quite possible i haven't fully absorbed it - and we have found a few bugs | 21:47 |
| clayg | * well Kota found them | 21:48 |
| clayg | * well and then he fixed them | 21:48 |
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| dfg_ | i just didn't know if it would be worth not having another async-ness in the mix esp when you probably wouldn't use it. like don't make a greenasync pile if concurrency=1. but then they are cheap and it would complicate code so. whatevs | 21:49 |
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| clayg | dfg_: full ack | 22:01 |
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| torgomatic_ | setmason: no, storage policies are cluster-wide | 22:04 |
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