Tuesday, 2015-09-01

garthbmattoliverau: yes it does, I put the output in http://paste.openstack.org/show/436088/00:00
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mattoliveraugarthb: if you run the netstat with root (sudo netstat -ntlp) then it'll give you all the PID/Progam names00:01
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garthbmattoliverau: it show stack@pts/35...full sudo output at http://paste.openstack.org/show/436095/00:03
mattoliveraugarthb: hmm, well the account server isn't running, so I think that's the problem, now we just need to find out what is using it.00:08
mattoliveraugarthb: unless its a hung object server started by stack00:10
garthbmattoliverau: hmmm...here's the running swift servers http://paste.openstack.org/show/436113/00:12
garthbmattoliverau: just want to be sure it's not running under a name I'm not familiar with...00:13
garthbmattoliverau: is there a way to try and start it on another port?00:13
mattoliveraugarthb: yeah, you can change it in the conf, but the account ring would need to be updated too.00:15
garthbmattoliverau: ok, probably don't want to go there...00:17
zaitcevmust be an ssh -L or something00:17
zaitcevor -Y00:17
mattoliveraugarthb: so according to your last paste, the account-server, container-server and object-server isn't running, they are whay should be running on  6012, 6011, and 6010 (probably)00:17
mattoliverauzaitcev: ahh maybe00:18
zaitcevWhen will you people stop using 60xx block and go to 62xx. My goodness, I'm trying to tell you for years.00:18
mattoliveraugarthb: are you running X or have sshed in with -X or -Y.. which port forward X stuff.00:19
garthbmattoliverau: I'm running MobaXterm00:19
mattoliverauI thought X stuff ran on 600* but something has stolen those ports.00:20
zaitcevIt's not "something", he has it in the paste  stack    16885 16730  0 08:00 ?        00:00:00 sshd: stack@pts/3500:21
* mattoliverau is glad zaitcev is here :)00:21
zaitcevI'm going to eat a burger and calm down. Ceph is making me mad at the world.00:22
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mattoliverauzaitcev: enjoy the burger, and ignore ceph and just come back full time to swift ;)00:23
mattoliveraugarthb: so it looks like it's the way your sshed in, it has stolen the swift *-server ports.00:24
garthbmattoliverau, yes...00:25
garthbmattoliverau: I don't know of a way to change that w/ MobaXterm...May need to restack w/ swift port changes...00:26
garthbmattoliverau: is that a common and easy update?00:26
mattoliveraugarthb: to test it out, download putty (if your on windows) and ssh using it. It _should_ not set up X forwarding.. unless you specifially tell it to00:28
mattoliveraugarthb: tho I'm sure there is a way to trun of X forwarding in mobaXterm00:30
garthbmattoliverau: yes that's a good idea (putty)...already installed...trying now...will take a bit to unstack/stack00:31
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mattoliveraugarthb: just make sure when you log in, do a 'sudo netstat -nltp' and make sure the ports aren't in use.00:32
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garthbmattoliverau: yeah MobaXterm was using that port...I had to kill to free it up00:39
garthbmattoliverau: still stacking...00:40
* mattoliverau crosses fingers00:40
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garthbmattaliverau: looks good!00:46
garthbmattaliverau: passed the uploads and I see python owns port 6012 now...00:46
garthbmattaliverau: thanks for the help here...that was definitely an obscure issue...I hope I'm still able to use MobaXterm though!00:47
mattoliverau\o/00:52
mattoliveraugarthb: I'm not sure how devstack builds the swift rings, if there are variables you can set for the account, container and obj server ports then it might build the rings correctly and you can pick new ports (thus use mobaxterm)00:53
garthbmattoliverau: Stacked and MobaXterm works as well :)00:55
garthb\o/00:55
garthbmattaliverau: signing off...thanks again...this was a big help!00:55
mattoliveraugarthb: nps anytime!00:58
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openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack/swift: Replace a / b with a // b to use integer division where needed  https://review.openstack.org/20821401:39
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openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift-specs: Large containers (Sharding) - Pivot/Split Tree  https://review.openstack.org/21873801:45
openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift-specs: Large containers (Sharding) - Pivot/Split Tree  https://review.openstack.org/21873801:50
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notmynamegood evening03:44
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kota_notmyname: good evening03:50
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mattoliveraunotmyname: evening03:58
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notmynamewow. this release has 55 code contributors. 29 are first-time04:07
jrichlinice!04:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Updated CHANGELOG, AUTHORS, and .mailmap for 2.4.0 release.  https://review.openstack.org/21868104:19
notmynameyay, finally04:20
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jrichlinotmyname: ^^ I guess that means you're cutting the release?04:21
notmynamejrichli: yeah, I'm working on an announce email now04:21
notmynamenow that the patch has landed, I'll do whatever the new thing is for cutting a release04:21
jrichliI wonder what the first-time contributors ratio has been in the past04:21
jrichlisounds high, but maybe it is always that high :-)04:22
notmynamenote than numbers are higher this time. that's because (1) there are more people contributing and (2) it's been 4 months since the last release04:23
janonymousI am included in this too :)04:23
notmynameyup04:23
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873604:28
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notmynamegears cranked. wheels turned. let's see what the state of things is when i wake up in the morning04:45
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Accept token and tenant_id for authenticating against KS  https://review.openstack.org/17279105:32
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: WIP: PUT/GET path for global ec cluster  https://review.openstack.org/21916507:38
openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: WIP: PUT/GET path for global ec cluster  https://review.openstack.org/21916507:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Remove duplicate X-Backend-Storage-Policy-Index key  https://review.openstack.org/21806908:19
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pksinghHi Guys, could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183899/, its pending from very long time08:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Make ssync_sender send valid chunked requests  https://review.openstack.org/21807808:27
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openstackgerritPratik Mallya proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Accept token and tenant_id for authenticating against KS  https://review.openstack.org/17279110:34
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: WIP: PUT/GET path for global ec cluster  https://review.openstack.org/21916511:23
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openstackgerritBrian Cline proposed openstack/swift: Adds useful dispersion info from changelog  https://review.openstack.org/21932215:52
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notmynamegood morning15:56
notmynamelooks like it was very quiet in here over night15:56
notmynameswift 2.4.0 has been tagged. sending release email now15:57
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openstackgerritMinwoo Bae proposed openstack/swift: EC: Handoff node to push existing fragment to the correct location.  https://review.openstack.org/19684816:00
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notmynamehttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2015-September/000575.html and https://twitter.com/notmyname/status/63874340050688409616:04
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tdasilva29 new contributors! that's great!!!16:53
notmynameI know!16:53
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notmynametdasilva: http://d.not.mn/active_contribs.png <-- very nice recent trends there16:58
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tdasilvanotmyname: yes, 10 new *active* contributors since april, 5 more and it would be a 100% increase...am i reading that right?17:04
notmynamethe red line is the monthly average of how many individual people are active in a week17:05
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notmynameand, yes, we're pretty close to a global maxima on that metric17:11
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aerwinHello all.17:15
notmynamegood morning17:16
hemanthmHi Swift folks. I work on Glance project. Sometimes when uploading data to Swift, I observed that some uploads take longer than the others17:16
hemanthmI was wondeirng if it'd be a good idea to re-try those upload after a certain threshold?17:16
notmynamehemanthm: are you getting timeouts or errors back?17:17
hemanthmnotmyname: nope, the uploads eventually succeed. They just take longer than usual17:17
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notmynamewhat's usual and what's longer?17:17
notmynamecan you categorize the longer ones in any way? do they share any comonalities?17:18
hemanthmnotmyname: say I'm uploading a 128MB object. Usually, I see these uploads take around 20 seconds or so17:19
hemanthmsometimes, they take like 3000 seconds17:19
hemanthmapparently, they hit 'bad' nodes17:20
hemanthmI understand that to some degree these numbers could be very specific to certain deployments17:20
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notmynameis this a specific cluster that's yours? if you retry the upload does it go faster?17:22
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hemanthmnotmyname: Yes. Our Swift folks recommend retrying uploads17:23
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notmynameif you log the transaction id that's returned on the slow request (the x-trans-id header) you'll be able to look for that in the logs and see where things are slow17:25
notmynamehemanthm: and you're saying that if you retry the exact same upload it will go faster?17:26
hemanthmnotmyname: I can't say that it worked like that every time but yes, a lot of times when uploading image (in segments) to Swift, a random segment takes way too long17:27
hemanthmI did get some tx ids to our swift folks, I often get the explanation that the upload hit some 'bad' nodes17:29
hemanthmthis is what I heard recently "the server it reached has been still up, no high load or anything..but I saw a connection timeout so I don't know if there was an issue with reaching that storage node and it timed out"17:29
hemanthmnotmyname: sorry for not giving you much to work with.17:30
notmynamehemanthm: I'm not sure what I can do for you. it sounds like there's some sort of issue to diagnose based on your specific deployment17:36
notmynameit may be that there are some needs (upstream or in your deployment) for some additional monitoring17:36
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hemanthmnotmyname: what I actually wanted to ask you was, if I do want to retry uploads after a threshold, is there something in swiftclient that'd allow me to do it?17:42
hemanthmI checked the code, but I don't think I saw anything17:42
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hemanthmnotmyname: and, does it make sense for swiftclient to have this ability to retry the upload if it happens to go over say 'x' seconds?17:45
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scotticusaerwin3 yo.17:48
notmynamehemanthm: no, I don't think "retry after X seconds" is good. however, there is an ability to put a per-socket timeout there. and the client will automatically retry after it gets a failure message17:48
aerwin3scotticus: hello17:48
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873618:55
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claygtorgomatic: thanks for the review on patch 21218719:17
patchbotclayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212187/19:17
clayg(etag_buckets on EC)19:18
torgomaticclayg: no problem; I'm just sorry it took me so long to get to it19:18
claygthere's still so much that could be improved tho - explict tests around the extracted NodeIter class, using timestamps instead of etags, closing down unused etag connections immediately once we pick the winner, ... probably a dozen other's I'm forgetting about :'(19:19
claygtorgomatic: pshshththhtt - no worries!19:19
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peluseyay patch 212187 -- thanks clayg, acoles, torgomatic!!!20:08
patchbotpeluse: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212187/20:08
openstackgerritMinwoo Bae proposed openstack/swift: Included reference in swift.obj.diskfile to enumerate the string used for data file paths.  https://review.openstack.org/21943820:12
minwoobThe above is just a quick documentation review ^20:13
minwoobThanks clayg for the suggestion.20:13
notmynameminwoob: seems reasonable20:14
claygpeluse: no way paul - thank YOU!20:18
clayggo team swift!20:18
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peluseworking on a test for whimpy patch 211338 now... its small but it makes a huge impact on load testing let me tell ya!  I'll head into work in a few hours and report how its running, has been going to a little over 24 hrs banging the crap out of the cluster20:21
patchbotpeluse: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211338/20:21
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claygtorgomatic: ^ I hate having to catch ValueError so damn high - does this exception pop on replicated objects during client disconnect - or is somehow just EC's tranfer-encoding chunked that get's hit?20:23
peluseclayg, my understanding is that this is only 'unique' to use of footer and/or multiphase commit where the obj server is reading back from the proxy so EC is affected as well as crypto (but I didn't go look closer at the repl PUT)20:30
peluseclayg, and when torgomatics eventlet patch lands we'll be able to catch this for what it is instead of using the ValueError bucket20:30
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claygpeluse: yeah that'll be great - I think it's landed (pretty sure) - we just don't want to require it (yet?)20:34
peluseclayg, not sure what the process is there for deciding we need to move to it?20:36
claygpeluse: yeah i have no idea - notmyname will figure it out20:37
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notmynamejoeljwright: timburke: all: we'll need to cut a python-swiftclient release very soon for it to be tagged in liberty21:05
joeljwrightnotmyname: ok, np, I'll take a list of the outstanding bugs21:07
joeljwrightI mean patches21:07
joeljwright!21:07
joeljwrightand see if there's anything it would be nice to wait for21:08
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joeljwrightdiscuss at the meeting tomrrow?21:08
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notmynameyup21:09
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notmynameI just put it on the agenda21:09
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claygre21:30
torgomaticclayg: peluse: yeah, that patch landed in eventlet master, so it should be in the next release (whenever that is)21:33
claygtorgomatic: oic, still need to wait on an *eventlet* release - *that* makes sense21:33
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notmynamephilipw: what group is it you were saying you worked with (to be the swift cpl)? I missed that.21:44
philipwhey21:44
philipwi'm with rpc @ rax21:45
notmynameah, ok. cool21:45
notmynamein san antonio?21:45
philipwprincipal architect / product manager for storage / tea maker21:45
philipwlondon actually21:45
notmynamegreat.21:45
notmynamewhat midcycle were you referring to?21:46
philipwthere was a product-wg midcycle last week or the week before21:46
notmynameah, ok21:47
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notmynameand you got voluntold to work with swift ;-)21:48
philipwnot as harsh as that..i'm a through and through storage guy21:48
notmynameheh21:48
philipwwe've met btw21:48
philipwIEEE MSST, in July21:48
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notmynameah! ok21:49
philipw;-)21:49
notmynameyou came to the swift workshop, right?21:50
notmynameI remember you21:50
philipwindeed, more for a nosey than anything21:50
mattoliverauHey Philipw: I'm also with RPC @ Rackspace, I don't know if we've met.21:50
notmynameyou two are antipodal21:50
philipwmattoliverau: hey matt, your nae rings a bell :-)21:50
philipw^name21:51
mattoliverauphilipw: I used to work in the London office (for a short time in 2013), back in Oz since working for RPC21:52
notmynametristanC: any reason http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-5223 hasn't been updated yet?21:54
philipwmattoliverau: assuming the team wasn't all that far from their current location in my previous role I was no more than 25ft away..21:55
tristanCnotmyname: mitre website usualy take sometime to be updated21:55
tristanCnot much we can do about it21:56
notmynameack. thanks21:56
notmynametristanC: the good news is that it gave us time for a real release before they updated :-)21:57
tristanCheh, that's good to know :-)21:57
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mattoliverauoh and morning BTW22:00
notmynamehi mattoliverau22:00
notmynamemattoliverau: we did a release while you were asleep22:00
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minwoobclayg: No need to review the handoff node patch yet ... I'm observing some failures that I hadn't seen before.22:04
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mattoliveraunotmyname: nice work \o/22:12
mattoliverauAnd I just got to meet more team members I never knew existed, it would be funny if clayg was the one who introduced them to be again :P22:13
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openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Preserve traceback in swift-dispersion-report  https://review.openstack.org/21947122:21
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openstackgerritpaul luse proposed openstack/swift: Better error handling for EC PUT path when client goes away  https://review.openstack.org/21133822:24
openstackgerritMinwoo Bae proposed openstack/swift: EC: Handoff node to push existing fragment to the correct location.  https://review.openstack.org/19684822:30
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minwoobclayg: Now we are at 100% for both of those tests.22:47
peluseminwoob, what's your test setup (just curious), SAIO or real cluster?22:47
claygminwoob: nice22:48
minwoobpeluse: I'm on SAIO.22:48
peluseminwoob, OK I think by next week I'll have a decent 10 node cluster dedicated for EC reconstructor testing.  Working with ctennis on some scenarios, he's also setting up some cloud VMs for the same.  When we're ready I may ping you for some ideas based on your patches if that's cool22:49
minwoobpeluse: Yeah, of course.22:49
claygpeluse: nice!22:49
minwoobpeluse: Still kind of nebulous as to what you need, but I'd be happy to help out.22:50
peluseyeah, we know there are real failures with testing this on a real 10+ node cluster so need to repro them and investigate but the cluster we saw them on is way busy now running perf tests :)22:50
peluseminwoob, yeah, I don't have specifics but once we're ready we'll list out some of the shit we're planning on doing and then will be looking for feedback and/or other ideas22:50
minwoobpeluse: Great. Just ping me whenever.22:51
pelusebasically how it behaves when there a pile of strange crap for it to clean up (large pile)...22:51
peluseclayg, you know you'll be knee deep in it too!22:52
minwoobHmm..22:52
clayg^ notmyname that's the queue for the obligitory "I'm pretty sure I'm helping" pic22:54
notmynamelol22:54
notmynameclayg: or https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0a/43/9a/0a439af1b9a9a8964561e83eb167427f.jpg22:55
clayg^ says anyone everytime they looks at one of my patches22:56
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hogood morning!23:20
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openstackgerritpaul luse proposed openstack/swift: Better error handling for EC PUT path when client goes away  https://review.openstack.org/21133823:35
mattoliverauho: morning!23:47
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homattoliverau: morning!23:51
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