Friday, 2015-07-24

hogood morning!00:01
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hoclayg: so far i didn't realize my test methodology is not popular one. do you know this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonal_array_testing00:10
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claygho: that's interesting!00:32
claygit's not obvious to me how you identify orthogonal tests tho?  how do you know that test case 1 should be 1, 1, 1?00:32
claygho: anyway - I think that array matrix based testing is a real and useful thing - but that's orthogonal (heh) to my point about maintainability00:34
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claygfound the bug with max_allowed_replicas00:44
claygcan any one name the *4* things that make up a tier in swift?00:44
hoclayg: i see. I'm preparing to explain how to make test cases with orthogonal array testing for easier review. as for hte maintenability i try to improve it with next patch so i would like to have your comments on it.00:50
claygone thing you probably get like or not is clayg's comments from the peanut gallery :\00:51
claygoh bah - isn't cache invalidation one of the hard problems in computer science?00:51
hoclayg: i really appriciete your comments. i only know software development way with current campany. i don't know other way so far.00:53
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notmynameclayg: region, zone, server, drive?01:05
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kota_good morning01:09
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claygnotmyname: you get 3 points!01:10
notmynameout of 4?01:10
claygheh - well you (unlike all rings cached dispersion_reports) were correct in saying server and not (ip, port) - so yeah maybe you get *do* get all 4 points?01:11
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openstackgerritDaisuke Morita proposed openstack/swift: Fix swift-object-info to show policy index at deep working directory  https://review.openstack.org/20534401:50
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mattoliveraunotmyname: submitted my LCA proposal, now I just need to make sure I get some good numbers out of this container sharding stuff :P02:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Metaclass Python 3.x Compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/20371403:15
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873603:35
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notmynamemattoliverau: nice04:00
notmynameI've got to do mine04:00
notmynamehmmm..I should do that now, I guess04:00
notmynamemrda: ^04:00
mattoliveraunotmyname: you have 1 week left before call for papers close, so you should do it soon :)04:02
notmynameyeah04:02
notmynameand I'm traveling next week, so it will be harder then :-)04:02
mattoliveraunotmyname: in that case, typey typey :)04:03
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mrda\o/04:24
notmynameworking on it now ;-)04:24
notmyname(and talking to my dad on the phone about soccer at the same time...)04:25
mattoliverauthe power of 'typey typey'!04:25
notmynamenever doubt "typey typey"04:29
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hoall, is there any problem to put paste url in the code? Is it not prefereble?04:37
notmynamepaste url?04:37
notmynamelike from a pastebin?04:37
hoyes.04:37
hoi would like to use it as a comment.04:38
notmynameany link to external stuff is hard because it can go away and invalidate the references04:38
honotmyname: ok, thanks!04:38
notmynameI'd prefer not to see pastebin links. but I've also had code commits that reference gist.github.com in the commit message04:39
notmynameso I can't really complain too much ;-)04:40
honotmyname: thanks for the explanation. i will use the link in the commit message because it's useful to understand the patch.04:41
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claygwow thanks for the quick reviews on the dispersion cli fix ( mattoliverau & torgomatic )04:58
mattoliverauclayg: your welcome05:01
mattoliverauclayg: you going to come to LCA and spend a week in Oz.. I think you should :) You have a week to get a talk proposal in.05:02
notmynameclayg: it's a great conference. also, only about 18 hours in an airplane05:03
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claygis peluse going?05:04
claygwhat would i even talk about?05:04
mattoliverauIt'll be in a smaller city next year, but close to Melbourne, so you can come hang in my city :)05:04
notmynameI'm working on a talk on EC05:04
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mattoliverauclayg: you could talk about being awesome. Or anything we've (or just you) been working on. Vagrant, tuning swift (for Ops), Go:swfit vs Python:swift (and the python improvements we've made), problems with greenlet and how we've over come some.05:20
notmynameclayg: if you're considering it, I'd love to tell you more in the office tomorrow. it's a great conference05:21
claygnotmyname: i'm not considering it05:21
notmynamelol05:21
mattoliveraupfft05:21
notmynameif I do end up going, then I'll definitely try to spend a day up in melbourne. I'm told it's the best part of Oz05:22
mattoliverauYeah it is ;)05:24
StevenKIs not05:26
notmynamelol05:27
mattoliveraunotmyname: ignore him, he's from Sydney :P05:29
mattoliverauMelbourne is like SF, good food, coffee and trams :)05:29
StevenKExcept much colder, and always raining.05:32
StevenKAnd less hills, but that's a good thing.05:32
notmynameStevenK: that _does_ sound like San Francisco! ;-)05:32
clayglol05:32
StevenKnotmyname: It can't be, California is in a drought!05:32
mattoliverauwell he'll be here in summer, so it'll be nicer weather.05:33
notmynamewell, yeah. after 3 years in SF, I think "rain" for locals is more of a heavy fog. we dont' get the texas-style thunderstorms that I grew up with05:33
notmynameof course, also no tornados and hail, so that's nice ;-)05:33
notmynamemattoliverau: that just means the sun is actively trying to kill me, right? (summer in australia)05:34
mattoliveraunotmyname: pretty much, but at least you wont freeze05:34
mattoliveraunotmyname: also we'll have to take a boat somewhere, cause that's apparently something we seem to do :P05:35
notmynamethe thing I should really try to do when I'm in Oz is take a plane to antarctica.05:36
StevenKAnd you didn't do that when you were in Perth? :-P05:37
StevenKIt would have been a nice change from the 110degrees :-P05:37
notmynamein Perth i got to go to the beach and put my feet in the Indian ocean.05:37
notmynameyeah, it was hot05:37
mattoliverauyeah, theres a boat you can catch the leaves from Melb and goes via Tas and then onto antarctica.05:37
notmynamebut perth has *amazing* beaches. and the one I went to seems to be the worst one around, according to locals. but it was easily equal to the very nice ones I've seen in the Gulf and the Caribbean. it was amazing05:38
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notmynamefound it. seems this is a really terrible beach in perth: http://d.not.mn/IMG_2407.jpg and http://d.not.mn/IMG_2399.m4v05:50
notmynamerelative to the others int he area. of course, it's probably one of the best I've ever been to05:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: go:  Adds memcache ring  https://review.openstack.org/20375805:52
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claygwait - what happened to the encrytpion eatherpad06:02
notmyname?06:02
notmynamehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_encryption_issues06:03
notmynamemrda: "Proposal submitted!"06:03
claygnotmyname is like google for swift links06:03
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notmynamenow it's in the topic :-)06:05
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claygg'night06:05
notmynamesame here06:05
notmynamemattoliverau: mrda: is there an openstack miniconf proposed?06:06
hoclayg: good night!06:06
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mattoliverauclayg: night man06:07
mattoliveraunotmyname: good question, I'll assume there will be one, but I don't know.. mrda probably knows tho.06:07
notmynameif there is one, I'm just curious who's doing it. I'd like to be a part if one's happening06:08
mattoliveraunotmyname: lol, when reading scroll back I thought you added the Perth photo to the topic06:08
notmynameheh06:08
notmynameok, my kids wake up early. I gotta get to bed too :-)06:09
notmynamegood night06:09
mattoliveraunotmyname: mikal ran the last one, but he's in the US atm, so can't ask him.06:09
mattoliveraunotmyname: night man06:09
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honotmyname: good night!06:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Get StringIO and cStringIO from six.moves  https://review.openstack.org/18545706:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Replace StringIO with BytesIO for WSGI input  https://review.openstack.org/18607106:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Fix 499 client disconnected on COPY EC object  https://review.openstack.org/20105506:55
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873607:04
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openstackgerritAtsushi SAKAI proposed openstack/swift: Fix six typos on swift documentation  https://review.openstack.org/20542608:12
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Fix EC range GET/COPY handling  https://review.openstack.org/20489209:01
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mahaticcschwede: around?09:40
cschwedemahatic: yes :)09:40
mahaticcschwede: great! :) I'm encountering this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/142577609:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1425776 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "ACL tests fails on fresh Ubuntu 14.04" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Christian Schwede (cschwede)09:41
mahaticcschwede: although I do have speedups -09:41
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Fix Python 3 issues  https://review.openstack.org/18545009:42
mahaticcschwede: http://paste.openstack.org/show/405132/09:42
mahaticcschwede: I see that torgomatic on that thread has suggested to check if simplejson has C bindings. I'm not sure if there is a way to check it09:44
mahaticmy version of simplejson is 3.3.3 , I did reinstall it a couple of times to verify09:46
cschwedeyou could check with:09:46
cschwedepython -c "import simplejson; print getattr(simplejson, '_speedups', None)"09:46
cschwedewell, or just „python -c "import simplejson; print getattr(simplejson, '_speedups')""09:47
mahatichttp://paste.openstack.org/show/405134/09:49
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Use six to fix imports on Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/18545309:49
cschwedemahatic: looks like the errors you see are not related to speedups then09:50
mahaticcschwede: I guess. I just get that "Exception: No result after 5 retries" for all the func tests09:51
mahaticthe connection won't simply go through09:51
mahaticacl tests*09:51
cschwededid you try some simple checks with curl or swiftclient? like just setting an acl?09:52
mahaticyeah10:00
mahaticcschwede: http://paste.openstack.org/show/405143/ - I try with admin account it still says unauthorize10:05
cschwedemahatic: that should be: „curl -i -H "X-Auth-User: test:tester" -H "X-Auth-Key: testing" http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0/„10:08
cschwedenote the end of the url10:08
cschwedeyou don’t have a token yet, thus you need to use the auth endpoint, not the storage endpoint10:08
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mahaticcschwede: I ran this before that -http://paste.openstack.org/show/405144/10:10
cschwedemahatic: you need to use the token then, not the user and password10:11
cschwedecurl -i -H "X-Auth-Token: AUTH_tke25785c990324e8ea304653530de6240" http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/AUTH_test10:11
mahaticcschwede: right. sorry, I did10:11
mahaticit gives me a no content (didn't create any containers)10:12
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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Replace urllib(2), urlparse with six.moves.urllib  https://review.openstack.org/19683510:14
cschwedemahatic: that’s ok if there is no container yet -  because you simply issued a GET command on the account10:14
mahaticcschwede: PUT works okay http://paste.openstack.org/show/405151/10:14
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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Fix tox -e py34  https://review.openstack.org/19903410:22
haypoi rebased all my python3 patches, enjoy ;) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Victor+Stinner%22+status:open+project:openstack/swift,n,z10:23
haypotimburke: hi. it looks like you have to rebase your dnspython3 patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203108/10:24
haypotimburke: FYI i fixed my dnspython3 patch for requirements yesterday. it's now restricted to python310:24
mahaticcschwede: http://paste.openstack.org/show/405171/ - when I run individually it works, not through the scripts. Am I doing something silly or majorly wrong?10:27
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cschwedemahatic: that’s on master?10:47
mahaticcschwede: I recently downloaded the encryption code10:48
mahaticbefore that, it worked alright10:48
cschwedemahatic: ah, well - that might be the reason? which patch did you download?10:50
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mahaticcschwede: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203454/10:57
mahaticI notice this in the logs : raise HTTPException("got more than %d headers" % _MAXHEADERS)10:57
cschwedeah yes, we had this in the past. actually, if you look at the output of the jenkins functional test from that review you’ll notice that 0 tests run, that’s the reason why it is successful10:59
cschwedeand the headers thing is probably due to a missing rebase on master11:00
cschwedebecause it needs https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/edfca8611:00
mahaticoh!11:01
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mahaticI cloned swift lated a couple of weeks back, took encryption code yesterday. Would I still need a rebase?11:02
cschwedemahatic: looking at the head of the patch chain master was last rebased in April: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163806/611:02
mahaticah11:03
cschwedeso yes, a rebase would be a very good thing :)11:03
mahatic:)11:03
cschwedeyou might want to talk to Janie and Alistair about rebasing the patch chain11:04
mahaticcschwede: yeah I was thinking11:06
mahaticcschwede: I'm also not too sure, for a quick clarification: I created a new branch say "git branch mahati_crypto" checked it out11:07
mahaticnow I do just a "git rebase master" and it should have the latest?11:07
cschwedeyes, if that succeeds it should work (though you might see other functional tests fail then)11:08
mahaticright, that's expected (some x errors and failures). But since I was getting way too more than x, I checked into the logs11:09
mahaticcschwede: oh well, it says Current branch HEAD is up to date.11:14
mahaticgit fetch https://review.openstack.org/openstack/swift refs/changes/54/203454/4 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD11:15
mahaticI used that to download code11:15
cschwedeyou should see some errors durring rebasing11:16
cschwedehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/405191/11:17
cschwedeif you don’t see errors, it’s likely that your master branch is outdated too11:18
mahaticcschwede: perfect! that paste is what exactly happened! :)11:19
cschwede:)11:19
mahaticand I'm not sure what to do11:20
cschwedein this case it is easy, because it is only a single file that failed11:21
cschwederequirements.txt11:21
mahaticright11:21
mahaticcschwede: I don't know the easy step either :)11:22
cschwedeit looks something like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/405213/11:23
cschwedeline 3 tells you that the following lines until „=========„ are from current master (which is HEAD)11:24
mahaticah!11:24
cschwedeand the lines after ========== until the next comment starting with >>>>>>>>> are on your current branch11:24
mahaticjust go ahead and fix that file you mean?11:24
cschwedenow you need to remove the comments (lines with <<<<, >>>> and ====) and keep the code that should be go into the current patchset11:24
cschwedethat would keep PyECLib>=1.0.7 and cryptography>=0.8.211:25
cschwedeafter that, you add the file using „git add requirements.txt“11:25
cschwedeand then „git rebase —continue"11:25
cschwedethis will give you another error ;)11:25
cschwedebut, it’s also quite easy to fix. again git add, git rebase —continue and then it will finally succeed11:26
mahaticright11:26
mahaticI see11:26
cschwedelet me know if that works for you11:26
mahaticsure!11:26
mahaticthanks so much! :)11:26
cschwedeyou’re welcome :)11:28
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mahaticcschwede: yes, succeded!11:34
cschwedemahatic: \o/ :D11:34
mahaticyes \o/ :D11:34
mahaticand now I hope, tests run better11:34
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pelusefolks, here's a talk to vote for.  Swift perf improvements via python optimizations... https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/536312:55
openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack/swift: Python3: Fix Remaining issues of python3 compatibility in bin directory  https://review.openstack.org/19851812:56
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openstackgerritDaisuke Morita proposed openstack/swift: Fix swift-object-info to show policy index at deep working directory  https://review.openstack.org/20534413:24
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openstackgerritpaul luse proposed openstack/swift: Add ability for GET path to see/select alternate frag archs  https://review.openstack.org/20128313:43
openstackgerritpaul luse proposed openstack/swift: Add ability for GET path to see/select alternate frag archs  https://review.openstack.org/20128313:45
openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack/swift: Resolving func_name attribute issues  https://review.openstack.org/20553513:56
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openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack/swift: Python3: Fix Remaining issues of python3 compatibility in bin directory  https://review.openstack.org/19851814:00
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openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack/swift: Add __bool__ for classes that implement __nonzero__  https://review.openstack.org/20554514:17
openstackgerritHisashi Osanai proposed openstack/swift: Add functional test for access control (PUT) with Keystone  https://review.openstack.org/20241114:19
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jrichlimahatic: I saw the exchange between you and cschwede.  I didnt have the ACL errors because I have not upgraded python to 2.7.915:02
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jrichlimahatic:  we need to merge from master to the feature/crypto branch.  acoles_away had been doing that before.  you could talk with peluse about how to do this if you want.15:03
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pelusehi guys15:09
peluseso I can give it a shot if you like, if there are major conflicts I would likely need help from jrichli to resolve them15:09
jrichlipeluse: hello.  that would be great :-)  Just let me know if you hit issues15:10
peluseOK, will see how bad it looks and let ya know here shortly....15:10
pelusehmm, no conflicts... cool15:13
pelusewill run some basic tests and push patch so you can sanity check it, sound good?15:13
jrichlisounds great!15:13
sweepercmon guys, whoever's adding features should merge master regularly, fobbing merges off on third parties isn't cool :P15:14
* sweeper hates getting stuck with other people's merges15:15
pelusesweeper, so this is a feature branch we're talking about.  Kind of a special thing and last time I checked only cores could merge master to a feature branch15:15
pelusefor people's own things, yeah totally agree :)15:15
sweeperohh, gotcha :)15:15
openstackgerritpaul luse proposed openstack/swift: Merge master to feature/crypto  https://review.openstack.org/20557915:16
sweeperalthough I suppose you could resolve the conflicts in a third branch still15:16
pelusejrichli, ^ there ya go.  Check it out and see if's what you'd expect15:16
pelusesweeper, correct.  we've gone that route before as well wrt keeping feature branches up to date.  This is only our 2nd feature branch ever so not a big amount of overhead15:17
pelusejrichli, and, of course, as there are no conflicts all you need to do is pull that patch down and run whatever it is you usually run wrt crypto specific tets and if they all look good let me know and I'll approve it15:18
jrichlipeluse: sure, will let you know.15:19
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prometheanfirewhat's the status of review 195131 ?15:38
prometheanfirehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/195131/15:38
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openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack/swift: Modifying Lambda function tuple usage for python3  https://review.openstack.org/20559815:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Fix six typos on swift documentation  https://review.openstack.org/20542617:52
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873618:00
claygtorgomatic: any chance you might review my additional comments to patch 205344 and deside if you still want to +A18:04
patchbotclayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205344/18:04
claygtorgomatic: I think I'll be just fine with the merge - but I really did like patch set 1 better and there's a couple of things in the new change that are "not great" (feel free to disagree!)18:04
torgomaticclayg: I like using the rightmost one more; it's basically /operator-defined-stuff/mountpoint/objects/part/suffix/hash/ts.data, so I don't see any opportunity for other things named "objects" to creep in on the right of the real objects-N dir18:06
torgomaticbut I could see some admin using /srv/object-storage/ or somethign18:06
claygtorgomatic: good point!18:06
claygtorgomatic: and I bet they would - I stand *entirely* corrected - thank you!18:07
torgomaticclayg: np :)18:07
claygtorgomatic: and in that case I feel even more strongly the chagne should go in disk file ;)18:07
torgomatichehe :)18:07
torgomaticthat does sound like a good idea; I'll hack up a follow-on patch18:07
claygoh yeah - follow on!  duh18:08
claygno I already have the diffs - let me just stop by belly aching18:08
torgomaticok18:08
clayggah - not eough coffe this morning!18:08
mahaticjrichli: Mine isn't python 2.7.9 either, it is 2.7.618:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Fix swift-object-info to show policy index at deep working directory  https://review.openstack.org/20534418:12
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openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Use right most occurrence object dir in diskfile.extract_policy  https://review.openstack.org/20564118:13
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873618:42
tdasilvaclayg: check this out: http://ur1.ca/n7vn418:44
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openstackgerritZack M. Davis proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: make Connection.get_auth set url and token attributes on self  https://review.openstack.org/20567218:52
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tdasilvamattoliverau, clayg: actually this is better: http://ur1.ca/n7vvw19:01
tdasilvamattoliverau, clayg: so I feel like it actually fixed slo + versioning behavior (even when compared to master) but now dlo is not working as expected, i'm looking into it :(19:02
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jrichlipeluse: merge patch looks good.  I just ran the normal tests.  I can't run against encryption until I rebase the whole string.  will do that this weekend19:10
jrichlipeluse: you can go ahead and commit that19:11
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peluseok19:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: go: goroutine leak  https://review.openstack.org/20523419:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: go: allow profiling  https://review.openstack.org/20523220:14
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shriHey … question about reporting Swift metrics. Is reporting to Stats still supported?21:03
shri*statsd.21:05
shriI configured the object-server accordingly. I have collectd with the statsd plugin running. But I don't see any numbers.21:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: go: wait for availability on REPLICATE  https://review.openstack.org/20429221:17
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hoclayg: around?21:38
claygwhat'd i miss!21:41
hoclayg: I tried to improve patch 202411 with your comment. could you please check it?21:41
patchbotho: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202411/21:41
clayglol21:42
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onovyclayg, hi, is this change in docs sufficient for you? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192198/7/doc/source/replication_network.rst21:44
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claygho: thanks - the doc helped so much!21:46
claygonovy: looking21:46
hoclayg: yay! thanks! one more thing... I wrote a comment on patch 204050. i would like to confirm whether it fits for your comment21:47
patchbotho: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204050/21:47
claygonovy: oh yeah - i saw that already - yes it looks sufficient in my mind - i haven't had a chance to test it!21:48
onovyclayg, perfect21:48
claygho: right ok - i remember that - yeah that's probably what i needed - thanks for the pointer - i'll try to grok :D21:50
claygho: oh wait - no - that only talks about the swift code base?21:51
hoclayg: my comment is only code base.21:51
claygho: so i probably misunderstood - I thought that code was there for backwards compatibility with some code outside of our code base (keystone auth token middleware?)21:54
hoclayg: i see. i will check other components.21:55
claygho: it's something about the *shape* of the environ that our middleware sees21:55
claygFWIW I don't see removing backwards compatibility with old versions as particularlly high value21:56
claygho: unless it's actively contributing some kind of maintance burden i'm mostly inclined to just keep stuff around basically indefinately21:56
hoclayg: ok, I will keep keystone.identity in environment but i think we don't need _keystone_identity method. it's a kind of refactoring.21:58
hoclayg: wait. i misunderstood.22:00
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hoclayg: unnn... it's not just a refactoring. someone might use this. i don't think this refactoring breaks something but don't need to hurry up... keeping is a easy way22:05
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claygwhat'd i miss?22:56
claygyeah just leaving it around is pretty cheap unfortunately :\22:57
holol. i feel so :)22:58
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hoi could solve my concerns now (thanks clayg!) so i can sleep well. good night and have a nice weekend!23:05
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claygyou too!23:07
zaitcevYou know guys, I kinda hate C++.23:07
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notmynamehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/205723/ <<-- removes dsvm tests from the hummingbird branch. also makes gate-swift-tox-func voting23:13
notmynameglange: hurricanerix: redbo: dfg_: ^23:13
claygzaitcev: only you man, everyone here loves c++23:13
redbonice23:13
notmynameit's like C. but one better23:14
notmynameor "incremented"23:14
zaitcevclayg: so you're okay with this - https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/528123:14
notmynamezaitcev: so it *is* yours!!23:14
redbois it called grenade because it blows up all the time?23:14
claygnow that you fixed the name - yeah i'm cool with that23:14
claygredbo: you're supposed to fall on it23:15
zaitcevyou're slaying me, people23:15
claygzaitcev: i ment fixed the author line - i like the title from the start!23:15
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zaitcevI saw a number of talks proposed by Go people and one of them includes Mr dfg IIRC. Isn't he famous for never travelling though? Skype again?23:17
zaitcevMaybe I'm just mistaken, it was a blur reading through many proposals.23:18
redbonah, dfg is a world traveler.  But glange has only left Texas twice, and he didn't like it.23:18
zaitcevoooh23:18
redbohe refers to people from Dallas as yankees23:20
notmynamegood job HP http://www.businessinsider.com/hp-dress-code-for-programmers-2015-723:23
notmynamethere's probably a few companies represented here who would be happy to hire you if you don't want to dress up in your programming job ;-)23:24
pelusethats nuts23:27
pelusealthough for many years we had a rule at Intel in Phoenix that shorts were not allowed (not that anyone followed it).  Heck, maybe its still a thing23:28
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openstackgerritpaul luse proposed openstack/swift: Add ability for GET path to see/select alternate frag archs  https://review.openstack.org/20128323:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Merge master to feature/crypto  https://review.openstack.org/20557923:48
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