Friday, 2015-06-12

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mattoliverauclayg: :(00:04
mattoliverauho: morning00:04
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homattoliverau: morning!00:18
openstackgerritDarrell Bishop proposed openstack/swift: Allow 1+ object-servers-per-disk deployment  https://review.openstack.org/18418900:24
clayggooody goody goody00:24
swifterdarrellclayg: new patchset up w/replies inline for Patch Set 1300:25
swifterdarrellclayg: that should cover everything except the shit in swift-object-server (the hard part)00:25
clayg"Any clusters using threads_per_disk should switch to using servers per port" <- that's calling it like it is boys00:30
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Add bulkdelete command  https://review.openstack.org/19088701:13
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mattoliverauAfter a few hours of debugging.. and all I needed to add was 'and item_list' to an if statement.. sigh, debugging a cluster can be fun :P #larger_scale_shard_testing02:54
mattoliverauanyway lunch time02:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: go: make full disk log message debug-level  https://review.openstack.org/19078903:35
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hoacoles: sorry for bother you but please take a look at comments on patch 190370.05:10
patchbotho: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190370/05:10
hotorgomatic: thanks for the comment on above. I think swift can't avoid to introduce oslo config when swift supports policy.json but for swift I read the code it seems just initialize global CONF is enogh.05:21
hotorgomatic: I checked the code when I wrote this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149930/14/swift/common/middleware/keystoneauth.py05:21
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hotorgomatic: swift doesn't use oslo config now. You checked the CONF is global variable but swift doesn't use it and my idea is oslo config will be enabled when keystoneauth (work with openstack components) works. I think the impact to swift is quite small (auth_token and keystoneauth).05:55
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jith_hi all, i m trying to install swift in a VM.. i couldnt understand the command sudo truncate -s 20GB /srv/swift-disk... will it allocate 20GB to swift-disk.. why truncate is used.. i m a beginner in this06:47
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mattoliveraujith_: truncate will create a sparse file, so when mounted loop back it can use up to 20GB but only be the size of what is currently used07:06
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mattoliverauSo don't use all the space now :)07:06
jith_oh ok thanks mattoliverau :)...  how to remove it... i unknowing created 20GB in another VM.. i have to remove it now because the total size allocated for the VM itself is 30GB.. is it enough to do rm -rf /srv/swift-disk.. will it be freed?07:10
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mattoliveraujith_: yup it's just a file. Unless you've mounted it already, then you have to umount it first07:13
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jith_mattoliverau: thanks really... no i havenot mounted.. but whether other folders  can use this 20GB if no other space is available??07:16
mattoliveraujith_: what happens if you using truncate to make a space file, you then put an XFS filesystem on it. You then mount that to a directory and any file or directory placed in that directory is written to the sparse file. It's a way of having an XF partition without having to pass another partition to your VM.07:19
mattoliverau*XFS partition07:19
mattoliveraujith_: so by loop mounting the XFS to the root of the swift folder structure /mnt/<loop_mounted_file>/sdb(1-x) means everything swift writes to the drives (in SAIO) is actally written to that sparse file. So yes they all share it.07:23
openstackgerritDarrell Bishop proposed openstack/swift: Allow 1+ object-servers-per-disk deployment  https://review.openstack.org/18418907:23
ahaletruncate is just nice and fast compared to dd, you dont have to make it 20G, it can be smaller. but you cant use the space for rest of system while the 20G is being filled up07:24
jith_mattoliverau: Thanks a lot... we are using this loopback partition instead of going for another added partition.. Am i right?? i have one more doubt.. we are creating 4 directories in /mntsdb1 as /mnt/sdb1/1 , /mnt/sdb1/2, /mnt/sdb1/3,  and /mnt/sdb1/4 for replication purpose right??? and again why we are creating a softlink for the above 4 directories to /srv/1 /srv/2 /srv/3 and /srv/4 and...07:29
jith_...created another folder as node  as /srv/num/node and using it??07:29
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mattoliveraujith_: you need to look in what's set up in the swift config files, the drives option is set to /srv/X/node. So the mounting and setting up of the SAIO XFS drive is done in mnt, and then the closer to real life view (or at least neater view) is placed in /srv.07:37
mattoliveraujith_: you must remember in the full cluster there will different nodes with there own drives, the SAIO is simulating multpile nodes, but all in one. So thats what /srv is trying to demonstrate, ie, keeping seperation in the nodes, even though they are stored all on the same disk07:38
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ahalea saio is probably one of the more complicated swift setups, kind of a pain as its also the entry point mostly08:04
mattoliverauahale: yeah good point. SAIO, awesome to have, but if your new, but follow the set up instructions :P08:05
ahaleand even if you're not new :) i regularly mess mine up08:05
ahalei'll be visiting your neck of the woods next week mattoliverau :) (though not your exact part I think - will be in sydney)08:08
mattoliverauahale: cool! well it's closer then normal.. I'm in Melbourne. so still about 1000 kms away.. but still close. What brings you down here? If you came by Melb I'd have to make sure to take you out for a meal or something :)08:09
ahaleAh yep I thought you were there :)08:10
ahalejust visiting my brother, meeting him in syd for a few days then spending a couple of weeks in nz south island08:11
mattoliverauSydney has the main Rackspace office, but I think they're ashamed of me or something cause I never get to go visit :P08:11
ahalehehe, yeah I'm not visiting there :)08:11
mattoliverauahale: cool :) NZ is beautiful too, so you'll have an awesome time!08:11
ahaleI might drive by the DC and burn it down or something though.. no my favourite place08:11
ahaleyep visited there before and really loved it, winters going to be a bit scary though08:12
ahaleyour winter seems warmer than londons summer though!08:13
mattoliveraulol, yeah, but NZ is Australia on training wheels, nothing will kill you.. well except the cold, mountains or extreme sports :P08:13
mattoliverauahale: true dat08:13
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ahalecold, mountains and extreme sports.. looks at plans to bungy in queenstown08:14
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mattoliverau:)08:19
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mattoliverauTime for dinner, night all!08:24
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jith_mattoliverau: thanks a lot :) :)08:25
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jith_i completed SAIO installation steps... what does the script in  $HOME/swift/.unittests will check??09:06
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zigoIs there anyone here working on pyeclib?09:10
zigoI need help here for its packaging.09:10
zigoVersion 1.0.7m has a wrong egg-info...09:10
jith_hi all, after installation of swift when i start the swift using startmain. I received the following error: Exception: Could not bind to 127.0.0.1:6011 after trying for 30 seconds09:13
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hozigo: I think tsg_ works for pyeclib but i couldn't find his name in the list.09:23
zigoThanks.09:23
zigoThat's Tushar Gohad, but indeed, he's not here...09:24
hozigo: yeah, i heard that begining of this week he was in japan09:26
zigoAh, thanks.09:27
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zigoSo maybe end of the day for him already.09:28
hojith_: to check the process of swift (1) execute resetswift (2) check the process of swift with ps command09:28
jith_thanks ho..  when i execute startmain.. i got proxy-server already started...09:35
jith_container-server running (29779 - /etc/swift/container-server/2.conf)09:35
jith_container-server running (29780 - /etc/swift/container-server/3.conf)09:35
jith_container-server running (29781 - /etc/swift/container-server/4.conf)09:35
jith_container-server already started...09:35
jith_container-server/1.conf is missing.. it is not started or with some error??? i m new to this09:36
hojith_: i think you stop the processes with resetswift which is stored in the same place with startmain09:38
jith_ho: yes i did... again when i execute startmain i got the following error: error: Exception: Could not bind to 127.0.0.1:6011 after trying for 30 seconds09:41
jith_in ps it is running but when i do netstat -antulp | grep 6011... the output is09:42
jith_(Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info09:42
jith_ will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)09:42
jith_tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:6011          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -09:42
jith_tcp6       0      0 ::1:6011                :::*                    LISTEN      -09:42
hojith_: do you make sure there is no swift related processes after resetswift?09:43
jith_ho: yes.. but when i execute startmain.. and when i see the 6011 port using netstat.. it seems two services are running09:44
hojith_: under container-server directory I think you have 1.conf, 2.conf, 3.conf and 4.conf. could you please check bind_port line in the config files whether there is no duplication?09:51
jith_ho: sure09:52
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jith_ho: when i do lsof -i 6011.. i found like sshd service is running over there10:04
jith_can i change the port no of tht particular container's conf file...10:04
jith_after editing the port should i execute any other command to set it?10:06
hojith_: i see and sorry for mis-leading. you already found out it with output of netstat.  you can change it but you need to change ring files setting. is it possible to change sshd port?10:10
hojith_: if you change the port in the config files, you need to change remakerings.10:12
hoacoles: thanks for the comment. I couldn't find Sam's attempt "IIRC he attempted to improve keystonemiddleware config to be more compatibel with paste deploy ini file". could you please teach me where it is?10:16
jith_ho: thanks.. ya i edited in remakerings... so i have to execute remakerings and then i can start the swift... is it so??10:18
hojith_: yeah i think so.10:19
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jith_ho: thanks for ur guidance.. it worked.. how to connect this swift with running devstack machine...?10:41
hojith_: Congratulation! (sorry for mis-leading even if you already found the duplication usage of port)10:43
hojith_: from step 11 in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_saio.html10:43
jith_ho: no issues... thanks really for guiding.. i m a beginner10:50
hojith_: thanks! have fun with swift :)10:54
hoacoles: The patch 190370 is adding info for keystone access log only so I think we don't need to hurry about landing. If there is no reason for hurry, we better to make a discussion for a way to support oslo config in swift first because this patch might introduce a backward compatibility issue on swift.10:54
patchbotho: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190370/10:54
hoall, have a nice weekend!10:54
jith_ho: how to increase the storage capacity? i initially configured with 20GB and if i need to make it as 40.. is it possible to create a same loopbackdevice and i can mount it inside the current swift directory.. or someother method to expand the GB10:55
hojith_: add devices on ring. you need to add devices in remakerings10:56
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jith_hi all any command to check the status of servers like resetting the swift using resetswift?10:59
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hurricanerix_jith_: Are you using a SAIO?  You could try "swift-init all status".12:39
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NEWcould anyone suggest which would be the best project to start with ..'12:44
NEWi want to be a core contributor and start in a growing project not already stable one, could anyone suggest some suggestion12:45
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mandarineNEW: I've heard Gnocchi is quite a new and outstanding project ;)12:56
NEWI have never heard of it12:57
NEWwhat is it about12:57
mandarineGraphs and monitoring12:57
mandarineIt's a "Time series database" thingy12:57
NEWanything related to connections less to data bases ?12:58
mandarineNope12:58
mandarineSwifties, I've got another problem: I have got three servers (10CPU, 8GB RAM, 8x2TB HDD). I've got swift running on them with one replica. One customer is hitting on it and we get tons of load on disks and CPU from the object-server processes. Do you have any idea on what I'm missing?13:02
mandarineThe thing works but cannot handle 1GBps traffic? I trust swift and I highly doubt that it's not able to do that ^^13:03
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mandarineAbout my previous asking ... a reboot did the trick. I really hate this kind of things. I'll try to investigate it more when it reappears >_<13:29
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acolesho: ping13:52
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acolesho: nm i guess i missed your timezone. i'm not sure how we would be making a backwards compatibility problem by adding one more option to the sample conf?14:11
acolesho: and we can't stop people adding the option to their actual conf files.14:12
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jith_hurricanerix_.. yes14:38
jith_thanks14:38
hurricanerix_jith_: np14:39
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jith_hi all ,if i need to add my standalone swift VM to another devstack VM.. swift endpoint will run in keystone only?? where i have to mention my swift details?? i did SAIO setup15:28
jith_add in the sense, i need to configure swift device to the running devstack15:28
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notmynamegood morning16:44
notmynamepeluse: can you please ping me in here when your ec patch hits gerrit? just in case I miss it otherwise16:44
notmynamehurricanerix_: will you be able to give a status update on hummingbird in next week's meeting? (or redbo or dfg_ or glange)16:45
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hurricanerix_notmyname: I probably would not be the best person for that, but if nobody else wants to do it, then I can.16:48
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notmynamehurricanerix_: thanks16:49
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claygmandarine: did you say *one* replica?  like you mean one replica per server or like raid under there?  I think swift does a bunch of work that only makes sense in a durable storage layer - if you like the swift api but want to use it more like a volitole cache/non-primary storage/staging area we probably need to do some work to make that use case work well for you :\17:02
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mandarineclayg: I meant two. Sorry about it ;-)18:01
mandarineOne "data" and one "copy of the data" in my mind.18:01
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openstackgerritjanonymous proposed openstack/swift: Fixed Formatting Error in Swift -Form Post middleware section.  https://review.openstack.org/19117118:13
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lcurtishello all. question about handoff nodes. If say I had a server go down and data was writeen to handoff node, does that data get rsync'd back to original node when it comes back online?18:30
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claygmandarine: right on man ;)18:34
clayglcurtis: sure does18:34
lcurtisclayg awesome...thnks!18:35
lcurtisam i correct in stating that data from a failed node will not be rereplicated  until weight of failed node devices is set to zero?18:36
notmynamelcurtis: node == server?18:37
lcurtisnotmyname yes18:37
notmynamelcurtis: yup18:37
lcurtisthank you so much18:37
lcurtisstarting to get the questions18:37
lcurtiswant to make sure i am stating them accurately18:37
lcurtisthe answers that is18:37
notmynamelcurtis: basically, if a failure is because it could connect to the server but not read/write the drive (ie a 507 response), data will be replicated18:37
notmynamelcurtis: and if it cannon connect at all, it won't be replicated until it's removed from the ring18:38
lcurtisinteresting...so if a drive fails...data does indeed start replicating18:39
lcurtis?18:39
lcurtissp a 507 would cause data to go to handoff servers?18:40
lcurtisso18:40
notmynamecorrect18:41
lcurtisbrilliant...love it18:41
lcurtisthank you18:41
mandarineclayg: as said previously, doing a reboot seems to have solved the things. I feel a "CPU leak" in this ;)18:43
openstackgerritJohn Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: do container listing updates in another (green)thread  https://review.openstack.org/18908018:43
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mandarineI used to hate rebooting production servers, but I just realise : it still works with two out of three servers and that is why we did that ...18:44
claygworks like a champ18:46
mandarineYup. I'm not used to that ;)18:48
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timburkewow. i have a change so old, it's even fallen off of the "Older open patches" section of the review dashboard. anyone mind taking a look at patch 161972?18:52
patchbottimburke: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161972/18:52
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openstackgerritDarrell Bishop proposed openstack/swift: Allow 1+ object-servers-per-disk deployment  https://review.openstack.org/18418919:57
swifterdarrellclayg: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^19:58
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swifterdarrellzaitcev: mattoliverau: notmyname: torgomatic: ^^^^^^^^^^19:59
zaitcevswifterdarrell: Thanks20:00
swifterdarrellzaitcev: I hope you like how the swift.common.wsgi crap ended up :)20:01
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claygswifterdarrell: I've really been loving your "this crap is all better in the next version" and "I fixed all this shit" comments in this change series :)20:22
swifterdarrellclayg: what can I say? the shit keeps getting better20:23
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claygswifterdarrell: heh, yeah I guess you have to drop that assert desired == actual :\20:26
swifterdarrellclayg: yup...20:26
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claygredbo: torgomatic: acoles_away: cschwede: ho: mattoliverau: jrichli: peluse: notmyname: dfg_: hurricanerix_: chmouel: portante: briancline: if anyone was waiting for things to settle down before reviewing the object-server-per-disk change - now is the time to get your hands dirty -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184189/20:32
portantehmmm tempting20:34
clayg... acctually if someone had a machine not doing anything I think most of my probtests during review were on a server-per-disk configuration20:35
claygso if someone wanted to invest some cpu cycles w/o too much personal effort it'd be nice to grab your current swift-all-in-one setup (that currently passes probetests) and checkout that change and run probetests20:36
clayg*personally* i don't care - everyone should move to 127.0.0.1-4 instead of the port based tricks on their swift-all-in-ones anyway - but someone might bitch at me if probetests break for them20:36
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swifterdarrellFWIW, I tried to keep the passing in "old style" (127.0.0.1x4 w/unique ports), "new" (127.0.0.1,2,3,4 w/unique ports), "new+servers_per_port" (127.0.0.1,2,3,4 w/ports unique within "server" only)20:38
swifterdarrellWhat probably won't work is 127.0.0.1x4 + servers_per_port > 020:39
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hurricanerix_clayg: I'll add that review to my Monday todo list.20:46
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clayghurricanerix_: baller!21:00
tmckayhi folks.  playing with a multi-node setup with packstack (Juno).  I would like to deploy multiple swift storage nodes but I'm not sure how to do that.  CONFIG_SWIFT_STORAGE_HOSTS is deprecated, there is only CONFIG_SWIFT_STORAGES in the answerfile.  Do you know of any guides out there for packstack?21:01
claygtmckay: what is packstack?21:02
claygtmckay: is there an #openstack-packstack channel?21:02
tmckaythere may be.  packstack is a deployment script you can use for RDO21:03
clayghttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packstack#IRC says it's #packsatck-dev21:03
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claygRDO!  zaitcev will know everything about it then!21:03
tmckaycould be other things besides RDO I suppose, but that's what I21:04
tmckayI'm using.21:04
tmckayclayg, thanks, I saw the ref to packstack-dev, I thought I would try here first :)21:04
claygsorry - i just know anything about that tool21:05
tmckayclayg, np, until recently I have only used devstack ;-) Trying to broaden my horizons (haha)21:06
claygtmckay: nice!21:06
tmckayclayng, fought with neutron for days21:06
claygtmckay: do you mainly develop on openstack - what's your intrest with swift?21:06
tmckayfinally have multi-node compute with routes in and out of VMs over neutron21:06
tmckayclayg, I am a Sahara core team member, and I work with a bunch of guys who do Sahara/Trove.  Trying to set up a test lab for us.21:07
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tmckaySahara does read/write with Swift (as an option)21:07
claygtmckay: wow!  awesome!21:07
tmckaybig data processing (data sets)21:08
claygtmckay: yeah for sure!  does it have some trick to make it easy to export a data/result set from hdfs to swift?21:08
claygtmckay: we deploy a bunch of swift and when people have an hdfs cluster there always looking to dump some of the old stuff thye're using less but don't want to get rid of off there hdfs clusters21:09
tmckayyes, actually, we have a custom hdfs jar that extends hadoop to be able to write to swift paths21:09
tmckayso, the hadoop jobs read/write directly to the swift service in the stack21:09
tmckaythe code was merged in Hadoop, but we have found that we move faster than Apache so Sahara carries its own patch currently and add it in with diskimage builder21:10
notmynamethat's cool21:10
tmckayyeah, works well21:11
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pelusenotmyname, clayg: I'm not going to have time to submit that Ec recon patch today, its working great though on the cluster I just need to fixup existing test code and add a bit.  Won't take long though, just not time today.  Will knock it out Sat....22:43
notmynameok22:43
peluseBTW, quick update on the performance work on the 14 node clluster.  All is running well, we are filling to 50% this weekend and will start real runs on Mon22:44
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notmynameI got the black swift keycaps for my keyboard. they look awesome!23:09
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notmynametrying to get the photo synced to my computer so I can share it23:11
claygfor all of you out there in internetland i've already seen them IRL and they do look pretty swanky23:12
notmynamehttp://d.not.mn/black_swift_keycaps.jpg23:17
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