Wednesday, 2015-01-14

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hogood morning!00:09
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873600:16
mattoliverauho: morning00:24
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homattoliverau: morning!00:26
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notmynamemattoliverau: I think this talk was too technical for me.00:45
mattoliverauA little too specific to c and the kernel00:45
notmynameI'm left with. "ok. wow. that sounds hard. it must be magic"00:45
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StevenKmattoliverau: Which talk?00:46
notmynameno, it's not "too C". but just the whole "DSL for code analysis and rewriting when we find bugs" sounds hard and terrifying00:46
notmynamehttp://coccinelle.lip6.fr/documentation.php00:46
notmynameStevenK: ^ in case room 200:46
StevenKAhh, the coccinelle talk00:47
notmynameya00:47
StevenKI'm in KVM for POWER8, which is terrifying detailed00:47
notmynamebut I did learn that coccinelle is another word for ladybug. so that's good00:47
mattoliverauLol00:47
StevenKnotmyname: You learnt something, the talk was useful! \o/00:47
notmynameStevenK: I saw something on twitter about "8 threads per code and 12 cores per socket"00:47
mattoliverauA bug that kills other bugs... Feels like the was an old woman who swallowed a fly :p00:48
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notmynamewhy oh why did she swallow a fly?00:49
notmyname(my 4-year-old just learned that song at preschool)00:49
mattoliverauPerhaps she'll die00:50
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Fix missing content length of Response  https://review.openstack.org/14704901:44
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mattoliverauacoles: your up early aren't you... At least you've changed your name early :p03:56
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openstackgerritHisashi Osanai proposed openstack/swift: Allow hostnames for nodes in Rings  https://review.openstack.org/13315507:04
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ho__it looks like reload_time in Rings always works with 15 sec (it's in __init__). is there any reason why it is *not* configuable?07:14
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openstackgerritHisashi Osanai proposed openstack/swift: Allow hostnames for nodes in Rings  https://review.openstack.org/13315508:59
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theblogguI've got an instance with two volumes and it is in shutoff status. As I've got filesystem corruption on one of my volumes and can't fix them from the instance I thought I could shutdown the instance, detach the volume and attach to another instance. But my volume appears to be stuck in detaching. can someone help me?16:06
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tdasilvathebloggu: by volume do you mean a device in your swift ring?16:15
openstackgerritThiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: Make more memcache options configurable  https://review.openstack.org/14601116:16
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openstackgerritDonagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift: Use TCP_NODELAY on outgoing connections  https://review.openstack.org/14722016:17
theblogguups, sorry. I should have clarified that. I do, yes.16:17
thebloggutdasilva,16:17
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openstackgerritJesse J. Cook proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Python sessions, streaming, and increased pool  https://review.openstack.org/11606517:55
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mahatictorgomatic, hello, good morning. around?18:06
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torgomaticmahatic: sort of. what's going on?18:09
thebloggu I have a development swift deployment consisting of one physical node (which happens to be an openstack nova node too) and 4 virtual instances. Some time ago these instances got shutdown but the physical node. How should I proceed to recover the service?18:09
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mahatictorgomatic, I'm kind of stuck on an error, I was wondering if you could take a quick look at it?18:11
torgomaticmahatic: sure, send a paste18:11
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mahatictorgomatic, http://paste.openstack.org/show/157995/18:15
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mahatictorgomatic, ah, my bad! sort function returns None18:21
torgomaticmahatic: that indicates taht self.allowed_methods is None; is everything calling superclass's __init__?18:21
torgomaticmahatic: or that :)18:21
mahatictorgomatic, so I guess I should switch back to sorted?18:22
torgomaticmahatic: or sort, then assign18:22
torgomaticeither one's fine18:23
mahatictorgomatic, okay18:26
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notmynamegood morning18:55
* notmyname furiously preps for the swift team meeting in 5 minutes18:55
notmynametorgomatic: cool. overload landed18:56
torgomaticnotmyname: yup; now we find out if people can actually use it to fix their problems18:57
notmynameneeds the report from clayg. oh, good. his container repl patch landed too18:58
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notmynameok, swift team meeting time in #openstack meeting. should be relatively short, I think18:59
notmynamegood morning acoles18:59
acolesmorning!19:00
notmynameacoles: I'm not sure if we are 11 or 13 hours apart right now (timezones are hard). 8am here19:00
acolesnotmyname: you're either 13 hours ahead or 11 behind. its still weds here19:01
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stensonbhey all...anybody have experience running tempAuth and keystone auth in parallel?19:24
openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed openstack/swift: Add some input options for set_overload  https://review.openstack.org/14597019:28
notmynamestensonb: you can do that. use a different reseller prefix for each. they can't share accounts19:30
zaitcevalso needs delayed_auth=true19:30
stensonbthen the main proxy pipeline has both specified, i suppose?19:31
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notmynameOH in the LCA hallway just now: "coffee isn't a drink. it's a life-saving elixer"19:42
notmynamemattoliverau: where are you?19:44
mattoliveraunotmyname: I'm upstairs near the cafe.. might head over to keynote venue.19:44
clayghrmm.... swift-deployer isn't in here19:44
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notmynamemattoliverau: ok. I'm headed to the rego area before going into the keynote area19:45
claygwhere'd stensonb go?  yeah i've run keystone with other auth middlewares in the pipeline - it's a hoot19:45
mahaticfor anyone who can take a look at this here: how come these two tests are exactly similar but expect different outputs? swift/test/unit/container/test_server.py/test_correct_allowed_method and test_not_allowed_method19:46
mahaticam I missing something here?19:46
claygmahatic: that is a stupid test - i guess it's all in the mocking of the public decorator?19:48
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mahatic_for anyone who can take a look at this: how come these two tests are exactly similar but expect different outputs? swift/test/unit/container/test_server.py/test_correct_allowed_method and test_not_allowed_method19:50
mahatic_am I missing something here?19:50
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mahatic_clayg, I went to the log and saw your response19:51
mahatic_clayg, yeah, you're right. Public decorator and also the replication part19:52
mahatic_clayg, stupid test? :D Is that not supposed to be in there? I mean that is not correct, right?19:53
claygmahatic_: don't know if that's helpful other than saying "yeah those tests seemed to be designed to be inscrutable" - maybe you could figure out a better way to test them!19:53
claygmahatic_: idk, i tend to go a little hard on the tests that are all "test that this unit calls these other units in this order and does this when I mock out their responses" instead of "make sure the replication decorated methods return 405 for non-replication methods when replication server is true"19:54
mahatic_clayg, sure. I wanted a confirmation. I can modify the existing test to act correctly I suppose?19:55
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mahatic_clayg, yeah, makes total sense!19:55
claygmahatic_: you're welcome to leave it as is if it's not blocking you in someway - it's not your fault that test is difficult to reason about in it's current form - i had assumed you were looking at them because you changed something un-related and they broke because they're brittle and can't decide how to fix them because they're not setup to test a specific desired behaior of the UUT.19:56
mahatic_clayg, yeah. I'm modifying call method. Those tests do come in the way.19:57
mahatic___call__ in swift/container/server.py19:57
claygyeah... stupid tests... refactor with reckless abandon!19:58
claygsometimes it easier to get the test refactors merged ahead of your change if they're non-trivial19:58
clayggenerally swift-core is pretty quick about merging refactors that only touch tests and seem to make things obviously more readable or improve coverage - changes to __call__ might take a bit longer to review :\19:59
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mahatic_clayg, I *need* to in this case I believe. Because I'm changing the logic in __call__20:01
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mahatic_and I don't think I can merge the test alone, because, the refactored code tests the new logic in __call__20:02
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claygmahatic_: sounds like coupling in the test?  new behaviors should get new tests, the old tests should be changed to assert the desired behavior without having to mock out a bunch a of system being tested in a way that makes them brittle20:23
claygmahatic_: but I'm not in your head - it may be obvious to you that I'm wrong and I'd be happy to look at whatever you want to throw up for review20:23
claygmahatic_: wanna give me a teaser of what you're working on?20:24
mahatic_clayg, sure! Let me just do a paste20:26
mahatic_clayg, http://paste.openstack.org/show/158011/20:32
mahatic_clayg, relevant existing patch is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140103/20:32
mahatic_clayg, sorry that I had to do a paste. I wanted to push it to gerrit and give you the link, but since one test is failing, I wanted to quickly correct that. I'm trying to do that now.20:34
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lcurtisquestion -- is it possible to delete a container without first deleting all objects?20:57
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tdasilvalcurtis: container must be empty before it can be deleted21:20
lcurtisokay...no way around?21:20
lcurtisI realize it is a safety mechanism...for our test environment?21:20
tdasilvalcurtis: I think it can be done with the swift client21:21
tdasilvalcurtis: or you could do something similar to resetswift script in saio and wipe all disks clean :) not sure how big your test environment is...21:23
lcurtistdasilva: thanks! will dig further21:23
lcurtisappreciuate the advice21:23
lcurtisappreciate21:23
tdasilvalcurtis: np21:24
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