Friday, 2015-01-09

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notmynameoh good. zaitcev is looking through my really old blog posts ;-)00:03
zaitcevnotmyname: the bzr vs git was nostalgic00:04
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openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Add some input options for set_overload  https://review.openstack.org/14597000:29
openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Add dispersion command to swift-ring-builder  https://review.openstack.org/14443200:29
hogood morning!00:37
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mattoliverauho: morning00:45
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claygso this python2.6 doesn't have c_ssize_t thing is starting to get on my nerves - are we going to take py2.6 out of our tox or are we going to let people use swift with 2.601:18
claygcause if we *don't* fix swift before the next release I think we'll need put something in the change log about "fuck old python"01:18
claygwhat the hell is a signed pointer anyways - who needs these stupid types - why can't all machines just be 64-bit forever since always01:19
clayghow's man -s tee gunna have ssize_t as the return type for tee and the example code assign the return value to variable declared as an int?  I thought these static type language guys were all up in arms about this type safey shit.01:23
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claygok so on python2.7 when I say ctypes.c_ssize_t() it gives me a c_long, I think c_size_t *is* acctually a ulong so I guess it makes sense the c_ssize_t would be the signed version of that01:33
claygomG!  I fixed the splice thing and find two tests that are using multi return with syntax!?  we're not even trying are we!?01:37
claygthe multi-return form of the "with" statement01:37
claygwith open(a) as b, c:01:37
claygoh maybe it's open(a) as b, open(c) as d that doesn't work01:41
torgomaticI know that last one doesn't work01:42
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torgomaticwith <expr> as <var>: is 2.6 and 2.7, with <expr1> as <var1>, <expr2> as <var2>, ...: is 2.7 only01:43
claygwell whatever everything is gunna be awesome on python3 except the type annotations01:45
mattoliverauclayg: let it out man, let it out... Sounds like you need a beer!01:49
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claygso I used to think contextlib.nested was a good idea - but they just keep making the deprecation messaging scarier and scarier :\02:21
claygalso python2.7's unittest module is so much better than 2.6's02:21
claygif we wait till april maybe we could be like "also swift doesn't support python 2.6 anymore - April Fools!" but then the joke part is that it really doesn't02:22
openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Fix a few edges where we lost python 2.6 support  https://review.openstack.org/14599702:24
claygif you have a vagrant-swift-all-in-one it'll have setup deadsnakes for you - and you can just vtox -e py26 to "review" that patch02:25
claygmost of the code is "worse" because python 2.7 is better, but well i guess I'll be pissed if we just stop supporting python 2.6 and wait some pissed off operator to jump here and tell us we sprung it on him02:25
claygmattoliverau: also it's taken me like >3 patches to beat the flake8 out of your dispersion-report patch - I don't know what the heck is wrong with my workflow I keep thinking i fixed it?02:28
mattoliverauclayg: then it might be I owe you a beer ;)02:30
claygi'll definately take the beer, next time I see you - but you don't owe me anything02:31
claygi found the bug in my workflow - i had accidently fixed the pep8 bug in a depedent patch in a later change which now passes flake8 but the interium change does not02:32
mattoliverauLol, in San Fran for the hackathon then :)02:32
claygwe're having a hackathon!?  like before vancover?02:32
claygbut hell yeah - i might know a few places02:33
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mattoliverauclayg: Lol, either your too busy to pay attention to emails, you've been forgotten, so because it'll be held by swiftstack you are there by default :P02:36
openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Add some input options for set_overload  https://review.openstack.org/14597002:48
openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Add dispersion command to swift-ring-builder  https://review.openstack.org/14443202:48
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openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Make more memcache options configurable  https://review.openstack.org/14601104:31
clayg^ I think we ment to do that after the memcache pool stuff got in, but never did04:32
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notmynamegood evening04:50
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mattoliveraunotmyname: evening, ready for your long flight?05:03
notmynamenot hardly!05:03
notmynamebut I did get a haircut today, so I've got that going for me05:04
StevenKI get a short flight, and now get to laugh to the jetlagged Americans05:04
StevenKAs opposed to Feburary, when all the Americans will be laughing at jetlagged me05:04
notmynameStevenK: the interesting thing is that it's effectively only a 3 hour difference for me05:04
notmynameStevenK: lol05:04
StevenKIt's only a 3 hour difference for me as well05:05
mattoliverauStevenK: when are you flying in? Going to the Sunday meet up?05:10
mattoliveraunotmyname: oh well the minimum you need is your laptop, a passport and a credit card :p05:13
notmynameheh. I'd prefer to have more of my talk(s) done too ;-)05:15
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StevenKmattoliverau: I leave here tomorrow morning05:22
mattoliverauStevenK: ha me too, guess I might see you in Auckland tomorrow then :)05:23
StevenKmattoliverau: I land into AKL at 16:0505:23
StevenKWhich is 5 hours after I left, but only 3 hours in the air05:24
mattoliverauStevenK: I arrive 15:25, direct from Melb05:25
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claygis the gate broken again?06:40
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hoclag: are you still here?07:24
hosorry. s/clag/clayg/07:25
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EmilienM?12:17
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Test that SLO disallows too small first segment if other segments  https://review.openstack.org/14610114:51
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notmynamegood morning15:20
notmynameplease note http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054122.html on the mailing list15:20
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mahaticgood morning!15:31
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mahaticnotmyname, I think i am missing something - @public and @replication attributes are both there for REPLICATE method. So, this method is not in allowed methods since there is also a replication attribute?16:00
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mahaticnotmyname, and is there also some code for replication server specifically like we have for object/container/account16:03
mahatic?16:03
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notmynamemahatic: I'm not sure about your second question16:31
notmynamemahatic: but for the first, the basic idea is that the Allow header should have the verbs that don't return 405 MethodNotAllowed16:32
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notmynamemahatic: perhaps there can be a refactoring to make the allowed_methods correct based on the config and then change the check in __call__ to use allowed_methods16:33
openstackgerritDavid Goetz proposed openstack/swift: Change black/white-listing to use sysmeta.  https://review.openstack.org/12604916:35
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EmilienMnotmyname: thx for your comment on the puppet-swift patch. Happy you follow it16:59
notmynameEmilienM: zaitcev brought it up in here yesterday. he gets all the credit16:59
EmilienMnice, thanks guys16:59
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mahaticnotmyname, hmm, how do i access this config data? (I think this is basic but I can't figure it). And also not sure you understood the second question or not sure about the answer?17:20
notmynamemahatic: it's passed into the __init__17:20
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mahaticnotmyname, great! thanks much!17:22
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notmynamemahatic: sorry I couldn't make more of the opw meeting. I had a phone call a the same time. everything go ok?18:22
mahaticnotmyname, no problem. Yup. thanks for joining in though! and towards the end, it was open discussion - if mentees/mentors have any concerns18:24
mahaticnotmyname, got any concerns? :)18:24
notmynamemahatic: nothing specific. thanks for jumping in and asking questions and responding to reviews.18:25
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notmynamemahatic: in general (not just for you with opw) I'm thinking about and working on some ways to get some better communication in the community (eg what's going on, what to work on, where to go for help, etc). I think that will help you, too18:26
mahaticnotmyname, oh that's great!18:26
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mahaticnotmyname, and i should be speeding up too. I guess you'll be busy next week? (I will ask around in the channel for any clarifications of course)18:29
lcurtisHi notmyname...q for u. If I want to set up a replication network, can that only be done at ring creation time?18:29
lcurtisas per http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/replication_network.html ?18:29
notmynamelcurtis: nope. you can set that up later. see the set_info command on swift-ring builder (then you'd write_ring. no need to rebalance)18:29
lcurtisphew18:29
lcurtisthanks!!!18:29
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mahaticnotmyname, thinking of testing the replicate part is indeed "fun"!18:33
mahaticnotmyname, sorry for going back and forth, but can you correct me on this - if it's not a replication server the method with @replication attribute should not show up in OPTIONS, correct?18:35
mahaticnotmyname, so my current tests showing REPLICATE irrespective of the config check is not right, correct?18:35
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notmynameno, IIRC, the REPLICATE verb is available to all servers, no matter the config setting18:38
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mahaticnotmyname, true. but http://paste.openstack.org/show/156122/ should thrown error when the test passes REPLICATE18:41
mahaticnotmyname, the above paste is in __call__18:41
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mattoliverauMorning20:09
mattoliveraunotmyname: I'm off to the airport, I'll see you tomorrow :)20:09
mahatic_mattoliverau, hello! safe trip and get back the updates :D20:10
mattoliveraumahatic_: thanks :) have a great week yourself!20:11
mahatic_mattoliverau, thanks too :)20:12
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notmyname"tomorrow"20:17
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mattoliveraunotmyname: well tomorrow for me :p20:21
notmynameheh20:21
mattoliverauIf you make it to the ATC meet up that is :)20:21
notmynameI don't get a saturday this week20:21
zaitcevbut then you get two?20:21
zaitcevor two Mondays20:21
notmynameya, I get in like 7am or something. I'm planning on being there, but I'm not making it a priority to be there right at the start time20:21
notmynameya, 2 saturdays next week. leave NZ at 7pm. arrive in SFO at 8am the same day20:21
mattoliveraunotmyname: understandable :)20:22
mattoliverauYay and hour trip :p20:22
mattoliverau*an hour trip20:23
pelusesafe travels man...20:23
notmynameit's dangerous. If I went too much further east, I'd go back in time to far. might disrupt some stuff20:23
mattoliverauLol20:23
pelusejust don't interact with anyone you already know and you'll be OK :)20:23
notmynameon the other hand, if I do it right, I might could fly west far enough to travel to the future, download the completed EC code, then fly east until "today". then we're done!20:23
pelusethat would take all the fun out of it though!20:24
mattoliverauGreat idea! And send peluse east so he has more time to get it done20:24
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peluseBTW clayg/notmyname, making good progress on the rework of the things we talked about earlier this week... going to be freakin' cool20:25
mattoliverauK at airport time to go line up so I can wait a few hours for a flight.. Bbs20:25
notmynamegreat. we (ie clayg and torgomatic) are back on finishing up some of the ring balance (and other) customer stuff before looking at EC patches.20:26
notmynamepeluse: so you've got some breathing room for getting it done before we have a chance to review20:26
tdasilvanotmyname: is there going to be a meeting next week while you are "away"?20:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Fix a few edges where we lost python 2.6 support  https://review.openstack.org/14599720:27
notmynametdasilva: ya. the timezones are effectively only 3 hours apart (SFO and NZ) so I'll lead it. but I'm checking the schedule now...20:28
pelusenotmyname, damned customers always getting in the way....20:28
notmynametdasilva: looks like 1900utc is 7am the next day in NZ. so I'll be fine20:30
tdasilva3? wow, had not realized that...20:31
notmynametdasilva: well it's actually 21 hours difference. so, subtract 3 hours and add a day20:31
notmynamebut effectively it means I'll be pretty close to the same daylight hours as at home20:32
notmynameno different than you visiting me20:32
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tdasilvacool, have fun there! you and mattoliverau20:33
notmynameStevenK too20:35
notmynamenot sure who else in here20:35
glangewhy didn't mattoliverau just swim?20:36
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StevenKSharks20:36
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glangethat's a valid answer20:36
notmynameglange: when you combine swimming with the east/west time travel, it get's complicated. water density makes the time travel slower20:37
StevenKThings that want to kill in Australia don't just stop because you get into the water. :-)20:37
StevenKFor instance, some snakes in Australia can swim20:37
notmynameof course they do20:37
glangein texas, there are 3 poisonous snakes, one swims20:38
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notmynamecottonmouth / water moccasin ?20:38
glangeyeah20:39
notmynamewe had those (and copperheads) where I grew up20:39
notmynameno rattlesnakes though20:39
glange+ rattlesnake + coral snake (but the coral snake isn't very dangerous at all)20:39
redboI like how it has a different name when it's in the water20:39
glangethe coral snake has to gnaw on you to give you posion and it has a small mouth20:39
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notmynameglange: copperheads make the total 420:40
notmynamehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_contortrix20:40
glangeI thought water moccasins and cottonmouths were the same things?20:40
notmynameya20:41
notmynamecottonmouth, copperhead, rattlesnake, coral snake20:41
glangeok20:41
glangeupdating records*20:41
redbothere's like a bazillion species of rattlesnake too20:41
notmynameredbo: there's also a brazillion rattlesnake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotalus_durissus20:42
redbothat's btorch's nickname20:43
glangecopperheads and cottomouths are in the same genus (but they are different species)20:43
notmynameglange: is that the genus of "color description" + "feature of the head"?20:44
tdasilvanotmyname: also known as "cascavel"20:44
glangenotmyname: I think they like the same TV shows too :)20:45
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notmynameglange: technically, these aren't poisonous, right? they're venomous. you eat poison. venom eats you20:48
glangemaybe, that sounds like a valid distinction, but the way I'm saying things is pretty common usage20:49
glangebut what you say is probably more correct20:49
glange*updating records*20:49
ahale_poisionous venom sounds the worst20:50
notmynamethat'd be like eating a scorpion or something20:51
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glangelooks like there are 4 genus's of different venomous snakes in texas with about 15 species or sub species20:54
glangethere are 2 genus' of rattlesnakes20:55
mattoliverauWell we've lost count of how many things kill you here with venom :p but New Zealand has none... Its Australia on training wheels :p20:58
notmynamelol20:58
ahale_i thought they had one nasty thing20:58
notmynameahale_: australians?20:58
ahale_hehe20:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Add notion of overload to swift-ring-builder  https://review.openstack.org/14145220:59
notmynameactually, it would be orcs, right?20:59
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notmynameAir New Zealand's in-flight safety videos are all LotR themed21:00
notmynamemattoliverau: StevenK: are power plugs the same in Oz and NZ?21:01
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glangeI thought New Zealand was Australia's Italy :)21:04
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notmynameI don't even know what that means21:04
glangethey are both shaped like boots :)21:05
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StevenKnotmyname: They are.21:05
notmynameStevenK: ah, good. thanks21:05
ahale_oh yeah , north island is like an upside down chelsea boot21:06
glangehaha, thanks for backing me up on that StevenK :)21:06
glangeStephen Colbert calls Oregon Idaho's Portugal -- it's a joke like that :)21:08
notmynameI should update my records21:08
glangethanks21:09
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notmynametime to punt further presentation slide work to the airplane and start working on packing....22:26
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claygwhoa, glange ahale_ redbo and mattoliverau it's like a racktoberfest in janurary in here23:42
claygdfg: thanks for the ratelimit fix - wfm!23:42
clayger... feature - to my knowledge it wasn't broken, sorry, mis-type23:43
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