Wednesday, 2014-11-26

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notmynamemy muscle memory in my fingers doesn't like typing "/etc/" followed by anything other than "swift"00:43
clayge t <tab> s w <tab> for me - but I can sub / e t <tab> n g <tab> pretty well when I'm working on web server...00:45
claygno, / e t <tab> c r <tab> works fine too - I think you're just too embedded man00:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Correct misspelled words  https://review.openstack.org/13702601:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Remove invalid connection checking in db_replicator  https://review.openstack.org/11621801:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Handle os.listdir failures in object-updater  https://review.openstack.org/12574601:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Make error limits survive a ring reload  https://review.openstack.org/13441902:16
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openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Update container on fast-POST  https://review.openstack.org/13538004:18
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/13728706:13
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openstackgerritNicolas Trangez proposed openstack/swift: Splice: Use `operator.or_` instead of a lambda-expression  https://review.openstack.org/13730709:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/13728711:30
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openstackgerritDaniel Wakefield proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Verify MD5 of uploaded objects.  https://review.openstack.org/12925412:07
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ipolyzosis anyone using Object Storage with S3 API ?15:25
ipolyzosi.e http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/configuring-openstack-object-storage-with-s3_api.html?15:25
ipolyzosi have an installation with the relevant configuration as in the documentation but I am not able to login to this  EC2 credential does not work neither the usual credential using for Swift15:27
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notmynamegood morning17:02
mahaticgood morning17:03
portantenotmyname: good morning17:03
notmynameit's portante!17:03
portantewhere?17:03
notmynameprobably just my imagination17:04
* portante these are not the droids you are looking for17:04
notmynameportante: are you still working today, or are you already off for thanksgiving?17:04
notmynamehi mahatic. how are you today?17:06
acolesnotmyname: good morning17:06
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acolesnotmyname: are we meeting today as usual?17:07
notmynameyes. in a little less than 2 hours17:07
acolesok17:07
notmynameprobably pretty short. I'm looking at it right now17:08
mahaticnotmyname, hi! doing good. some sort of career advice meeting going on in #opw, that's for an hour more. On that for now17:08
notmynamecool17:09
notmynamemahatic: you could probably find some good advice in here too. lot's of current swift devs have been doing this for decades :-)17:09
mahaticnotmyname, oh really? that's awesome!17:10
mahaticnotmyname, wait, doing this meaning - I should be asking about my proj stuff? or you meant the career advice itself?17:10
mahatic:D17:10
notmynamemahatic: I mean general career advice17:11
mahaticnotmyname, great!17:12
madhuriHi all!!17:13
mahaticSo, anyone got any idea about my opportunities further (i understand it's a bit too early to ask now. But say 3 months from now). Considering that until now I have only been working on C#, CSS, JavaScript, Microsoft SharePoint17:13
notmynameipolyzos: did you get your s3 questions answered?17:14
madhuriCan anyone tell me why the memory usage of proxy server reach 12 GB approx. in case only one replica is maintained?17:14
ipolyzosyeap though I have some more17:15
madhuriI have tried testing swift performance using one worker process, put_queue_depth =10 and the chunk_size = 6417:15
ipolyzosis there any siote with functional tests I could use on Swift ?17:15
notmynamemahatic: depends a lot on what you're interested in and where you're interested in living (and possible associated visa issues). your experience sounds pretty broad, so there will probably be several opportunities17:16
ipolyzosso far I explore the https://github.com/ceph/s3-tests but does not seem very flexible17:17
notmynameipolyzos: swift functional tests?17:17
madhuriOn basis of above configuration, memory consumption must be somewhat nearby 65 MB (1024 request*10buffer*64KB chunk)17:17
notmynameoh s3 functional tests? that one is the only one I know of17:17
ipolyzosyeap, I would like to validate on the Swift compatibility with S317:17
ipolyzoshave you tried this one?17:18
notmynameya17:18
mahaticnotmyname, oh yes definitely. My interest is working on storage systems or the like. And also that gives me time to contribute to other open source projects. (If i'm offered to work on swift itself, fabulous! if not, atleast a flexibility to be able to continue contributing to Swift).17:18
ipolyzosi create ec2 credential to usr with  keystone ec2-credentials-list --user-id17:19
mahaticnotmyname, but what I see as a constraint is, while i do carry experience, it's probably not relevant to what I'm I am now interested in17:19
ipolyzosbut does not seem to work17:19
madhurinotmyname: Hi!!17:19
notmynamemadhuri: were is your memory being used? what process?17:20
madhuriproxy server17:20
madhurinotmyname: Is there other parameters other than in above statement that affects memory usage?17:21
notmynameipolyzos: ...looking (so far unsuccessfully)17:25
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notmynameipolyzos: there17:28
notmynameipolyzos: https://gist.github.com/notmyname/090e837e51e2b2c35466 is the functional config I use for the test run against my swift all in one17:28
notmynamemadhuri: maybe? I don't recall off the top of my head. check the sample configs.17:28
notmynamemadhuri: do you have any idea where the memory is going?17:29
madhurinotmyname: No, according to me it should not be greater than a gb but here it has drastically increased to 12 GB17:31
madhuriand I wonder where and how this memory usage has increased to such a large value.17:31
madhuriIs it due to uncollected objects in python?17:32
madhuriOr I am missing something out in swift? Is my calculation done above correct?17:32
notmynamemadhuri: what version of swift?17:33
madhuriicehouse17:33
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notmyname1.13.117:35
madhuriYes. Is it the stable one version?17:35
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notmynameall releases are stable ;-)17:35
notmyname...he says to the guy having memory issues...17:36
madhuriSorry. I meant not the master branch17:36
notmynamecurrent swift version in 2.2.017:36
notmynames/in/is17:36
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madhurinotmyname: ^^17:42
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madhurinotmyname: No, according to me it should not be greater than a gb but here it has drastically increased to 12 GB18:00
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notmynameok, that office conversation went a little too long and got a little too crazy...back now18:20
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notmynamemadhuri: is this a separate proxy server or are you running object servers on the same box?18:21
madhuriI have installed all the services on one node only.18:22
notmynameok18:22
notmynamemadhuri: how are you seeing that the proxy server is using the memory. mostly I'm wondering if it may be objects or FS metadata stored in the linux page cache rather than actually used by the proxy18:25
madhuriusing top command18:25
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madhurii have collected all top logs for the proxy pid during the execution of test18:26
madhuriand it started gradually increasing18:26
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notmynamemadhuri: what column in top?18:37
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madhuriRES18:39
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notmynamemadhuri: hmm..so that's probably not page cache stuff then ;-)18:43
madhuriYes, i have been looking into it for last 2 days and couldn't find the exact reason behind it18:44
madhuri:(18:45
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notmynamemadhuri: I don't know. keep looking. stuff like slabtop, lsof (maybe), strace, other /proc/ things might help find what's going on.18:49
madhuriI am looking into it but could you suggest some better way or some hint would be highly appreciated :)18:50
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mahaticnotmyname, noob question: When all the requests go through proxy server, where there is already OPTIONS handled, why do the storage nodes need it?18:53
mahaticnotmyname, in fact, the OPTIONS in proxy server, the container info is accessed18:53
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mahaticin the OPTIONS*18:58
notmynamemahatic: can I talk about it after the meeting?18:59
notmynamewill you still be around?18:59
mahaticnotmyname, yup, sure18:59
notmynamekk18:59
mahaticyeah, I will be18:59
notmynameok, meeting time in #openstack-meeting19:00
claygyay!19:00
acolesclayg: thanks for adding those probe tests19:00
claygacoles: no worries!  your commit suggested "moar tests" - i agree we'll need them!19:01
claygacoles: was i going crazy with the unsyncable containers?19:01
acolesclayg: haven't got to look at that yet, had other stuff on my plate :( will get to it while you enjoy thanksgiving turkey or whatever19:02
acolesclayg: oh yes, lots more tests19:02
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claygacoles: also I don't know if you remembered my spec had that gap with the content-type-less update over two different metadata updates that had content-types, but I cracked it last night on the train (at least in theory) - so I'm really jazzed about starting to type up my ideas on how metadata updates might work19:03
claygacoles: i can hack and chew at the same time ;)19:03
claygacoles: we also have the service prefix change for the keystone/glance stuff - I approved the spec I think so that means you should be allowed to bully me into a review19:03
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acolesclayg: service prefix review is early version - idk i thought donagh was going to make it WIP - he put it up for me to work on some tests against it19:04
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acolesclayg: re spec - cool! also, i'm going to play with your idea for proxy sending a x-backend-content-type-timestamp after the x-newest head, see where it takes me19:07
clayggood luck!19:08
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tdasilvaon a related topic to writing obj. server in go, has anybody heard of minio: https://github.com/Minio-io/minio19:50
claygtdasilva: i have recently acctually - did you LOOK at it?19:50
tdasilvajust browsed the code, was planning on downloading and playing with it, maybe over the holiday weekend ?19:51
zaitcevclayg: did you see my query about PROTOCOL_BUFFERS_PYTHON_IMPLEMENTATION?19:52
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claygzaitcev: no i haven't :\19:54
claygzaitcev: where?19:54
claygzaitcev: this a kinetic question?19:54
zaitcevI sent it to clay.gerrard at gmail.19:54
zaitcevYes19:54
acoleshappy thanksgiving guys19:55
claygzaitcev: oh, ok still cleaning out input streams - thanks for the heads up19:55
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claygzaitcev: oh yeah, that's fine you can commit it out, oh no, rather comment out the environ filler, you can use you the python bindings just fine19:56
zaitcevclayg: I wanted to set up drives that Ignacio gave me, but swift-init object-server start blows up with ImportError: cannot import name _net_proto2___python. Maybe some component missing...19:56
claygzaitcev: there not even that bad for reasons19:56
claygbut generally speaking you don't get the cpp bindings unless you build protobuf from source19:57
zaitcevclayg: Thanks, will do (comment out). I thought maybe my install of google protobufs was bad.19:57
claygzaitcev: cool!  yeah no worries, just comment the os.environ line for now19:57
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claygzaitcev: probably not *bad* just not build with the "experimental" cpp bindings19:57
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claygzaitcev: thanks, https://github.com/swiftstack/kinetic-swift/issues/2820:00
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mahaticnotmyname, around? (about the question i asked)20:12
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notmynamemahatic: yes. here now. (sorry about that)21:02
notmynamemahatic: still around yourself?21:02
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cschwedenotmyname: tdasilva: all right, i’ll review the fsync + ssync patches tomorrow :)21:27
notmynamethanks :-)21:29
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tdasilvacschwede: thanks!21:31
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openstackgerritThiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: versioned writes middleware  https://review.openstack.org/13434721:44
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matt__hey all, sorry i missed the meeting, was flying back to paris... long fly home starts first thing in the morning :(21:53
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notmynamematt__: no worries. http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-11-26-19.00.log.html21:54
mattoliveraunotmyname: thanks :)21:54
notmynamemattoliverau: nonstop or through dubai/emirates/singapore21:55
mattoliverauOz is too far for a non-stop, to via abu dharbi.21:55
mattoliverau6.5 hours then 15 hours or something horrible.21:56
notmynameyikes21:56
mattoliverauyeah.. oh well, syncing gertty incase I get bored on the plane ;) Looking forward to being home, then Christmas, and then LCA!!!21:58
notmynameclayg: want to get extra sad? check out how many times we call check_utf8 on a single request in the system. (twice in the object PUT in the object server itself, potentially a couple of middlewares, twice at least in the proxy server for an object PUT)22:02
claygnotmyname: you're being really mean to me today22:02
notmynamewe call check_utf8 in proxy_server.handle_request(). then check_object_creation() calls check_utf8. and the proxy and object servers both do that. and bulk and slo also might call check_utf8.22:03
notmynameit's our version of busy loops ;-)22:04
clayglol22:04
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claygacoles_away: excellent functional testing and review notes for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136548/ - sorry I missed the still reports test failures with rsync case - well done, and thank you!22:15
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notmynameportante: still around?22:26
notmynameportante: nm. linkedin gave me the red hat info I needed22:26
claygpete are you still a strong +2 on kota's region replication improvements?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99824/22:31
claygzaitcev: ^22:31
zaitcevclayg: I did last time I looked although to be honest I do not understand entirely the implications. The discussion at hackathon answered my questions. And it seems okay in scenarios that I considered.22:32
zaitcevclayg: But honestly my confidence is not very strong. It's just... if I'm on core, I don't have an option of abstaining, right?22:33
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openstackgerritJohn Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: Fix tempfile bugs from commit 6978275  https://review.openstack.org/13748222:36
claygzaitcev: no you can totally abstain - look at glange_^Wany of us really...22:37
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notmynameI'm talking off. have a good holiday. I'll be in and out online over the next 5 days. see you around23:51

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