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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed a change to openstack/swift-bench: Clean up some conf parsing https://review.openstack.org/128147 | 00:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | paul luse proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add another device to SAIO to support the default EC development environment. https://review.openstack.org/128154 | 02:12 |
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| notmyname | hello, world | 02:54 |
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| hugokuo | hello John | 03:03 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: hey, Have a good holiday? | 03:05 |
| notmyname | yeah, we did | 03:05 |
| hugokuo | nice | 03:05 |
| notmyname | we toured the USS America (a new ship commissioned this week here in SF). https://twitter.com/notmyname/status/521829271879557120 | 03:06 |
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| notmyname | then we went to a vintage arcade that was really cool. http://www.museemecaniquesf.com | 03:06 |
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| mattoliverau | Awesome, looks like a great day out :) | 03:08 |
| hugokuo | had you use/play those stuff in childhood ? | 03:08 |
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| notmyname | most of those are older than my great-grandfather ;-) | 03:09 |
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| notmyname | but they had a few old video arcade games (eg pole position, centipede, etc) that were fun to play | 03:10 |
| * hugokuo Hugo loves vintage. I have to go place like that in CA next time | 03:13 | |
| notmyname | hugokuo: definitely you should. it's got all kinds of crazy stuff. some really cool old games and even some things that are basically just huge animatronics powered by a quarter | 03:16 |
| notmyname | eg there is one that's an entire carnival. trapeze, fighters, side shows, animals, everything, all moving. and it's probably 3m by 2m. and probably over a hundred years old | 03:18 |
| notmyname | hugokuo: mattoliverau: (and others currently not working US business hours....) update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-swift-summit-topics with stuff you want to talk about in paris (or stuff you think should be talked about) | 03:19 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: sure thing! | 03:20 |
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| * hugokuo will read ut later and have some feedback | 03:21 | |
| notmyname | it's still in brainstorm phase right now. we'll organize and schedule starting next week | 03:21 |
| hugokuo | charz: ^^ | 03:21 |
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| zaitcev | my god. I had no idea that making .next() a generator actually worked. Also, my Bezeley book claims that if you return from a generator, it's the same thing as raising StopIterate. | 03:22 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: what do you mean by "making next() a generator"? | 03:22 |
| notmyname | yeah, generator + return = StopIteration | 03:22 |
| zaitcev | well you have a dev next(): yield 1 | 03:23 |
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| notmyname | how are you using that? and what's the result of calling .next() in that class instance? you get a generator of generators? I guess that makes sense | 03:26 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: heh. and the next unread email I got to is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128135/ | 03:27 |
| notmyname | :-) | 03:27 |
| mattoliverau | A generator is a type of iterator, so they use the same "interface". (next and stopiteration) | 03:28 |
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| zaitcev | notmyname: yeah, I tried to see how that even worked to begin with | 03:31 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: yeah. just the whole "yo dawg I heard you like generators so I put a generator in your generator so you can yield while you yield" thing | 03:32 |
| mattoliverau | lol, you can never have too many generators :P | 03:33 |
| zaitcev | "This is especially worrysome for services like sshd, but in my experience more services are affected by this, in my case at least dovecot, named, postfix, radicale, sshd. / If services can be improved/patched (ideally upstream) to use rtnetlink/IP_FREEBIND, that's even better." https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1119787 (very long) | 03:38 |
| zaitcev | Ubuntu answer: "NetworkManager.service just starts NetworkManager and does not wait for it to bring up a network interface. This seems appropriate, but network.target should not become active until a network connection is up. An extra unit, wait-for-network.service, has been created to delay network.target. " | 03:39 |
| zaitcev | So now units for Fedora do the upstream thing with network-online.target and units for Ubuntu do the wait-for-network.service | 03:39 |
| zaitcev | Everyone should probably start thinking about bind_ip=0.0.0.0 for now | 03:40 |
| zaitcev | And not just on proxies | 03:40 |
| notmyname | oh, speaking of that. now that we've tagged the juno release, we can propose/land new recommendations for bind_port on storage nodes. zaitcev didn't you want something in the 62xx range? | 03:46 |
| zaitcev | Yes | 03:46 |
| zaitcev | Well, 57xx would be fine too but everyone seems to like 62xx for some reason | 03:47 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: why 62xx? | 03:47 |
| zaitcev | I think that number floated up from the bowels of the horrible The SElinux Team and stuck | 03:48 |
| zaitcev | I already have RPMs in Fedora that do that and I think you promised that in some commit text or other. | 03:49 |
| zaitcev | I can change, of course. I came up with 57xx as one reasonably free, by trawling through /etc/services. | 03:50 |
| notmyname | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers | 03:50 |
| zaitcev | well, everything is assigned nowadays. Just need to find something assigned to services that were dead for more than 20 years or never existed | 03:50 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: I don't have a strong preference, other than making it easier to deploy. and if SELinux Team says something, sure that's fine I guess. | 03:51 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: so if your patch that changes configs and docs to 62xx gets proposed first, then I guess you also get to match your existing packages ;-) | 03:51 |
| zaitcev | thanks for the hint, putting it into todo | 03:53 |
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| notmyname | good night all. | 04:08 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: night | 04:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Oliver proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add concurrent reads option to proxy https://review.openstack.org/117710 | 04:30 |
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| wer | I had something interesting happen. There is a syslog-ng memory leak that I was suffering from in 12.04. The process had eaten ~3G resident and 6G virt. Even so, I had so much ram that my swift node was not in danger of swap for some time. I restarted syslog-ng anyway to free up the ram (reload vs restart is the leak). I think my object server died sometime after that, and the node was angry. before this, I had been running | 06:18 |
| wer | steady for 4 months. | 06:18 |
| redbo | Yeah, swift doesn't react well to losing syslog connections. I'd suggest using UDP syslog. | 06:21 |
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| wer | redbo: thanks. That explains a lot :) | 06:22 |
| wer | I have 15 more nodes to test on and was going to watch closely tomorrow so that helps :) | 06:22 |
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| wer | btw. What a gross leak. affected our openstack computes too :/ http://code.google.com/p/security-onion/issues/detail?id=394 | 06:25 |
| redbo | yeah, we went back to rsyslog. | 06:26 |
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| ahale | we did ? or is that a different we | 07:15 |
| ahale | we are seeing that huge syslog-ng thing in prod, thanks for link | 07:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed a change to openstack/swift: Functional tests for data migration middleware https://review.openstack.org/123473 | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed a change to openstack/swift: Make in process functional tests use sample proxy-server.conf https://review.openstack.org/127607 | 11:12 |
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| peluse | acoles, I'm around so ping me when ready (no hurry though) | 12:32 |
| acoles | peluse: i'm at desk so call any time, or you want me to call you? | 12:33 |
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| peluse | acoles, hmm, tried calling it didn't seem to work. yeah, buzz me at 480 554 3688 | 12:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Convert maximum length to integer in name_check https://review.openstack.org/125315 | 13:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift-bench: Fix next on SourceFile https://review.openstack.org/128135 | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift-bench: Clean up some conf parsing https://review.openstack.org/128147 | 13:59 |
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| notmyname | good morning, world | 15:24 |
| elambert | mornin' | 15:24 |
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| notmyname | cool. travel tips for the paris summit https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Kilo/Travel_Tips | 15:43 |
| glange | I think this is going to be the most romantic openstack summit ever | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | paul luse proposed a change to openstack/swift-specs: Updates to EC design spec https://review.openstack.org/125190 | 15:49 |
| peluse | morning | 15:49 |
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| notmyname | peluse: is that the current EC spec or is there more coming today? ie is that the patch you mentioned via email | 15:52 |
| notmyname | peluse: ah. just saw the new email :-) | 15:52 |
| peluse | the one I just sent in email is the one above and is all I plan to do until after tomorrow. back to coding... | 15:52 |
| peluse | cool | 15:53 |
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| redbo | ahale: oh, I thought we were running on rsyslog since forever. I guess I was mistaken. | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | anju Tiwari proposed a change to openstack/swift: Added a check for limit value https://review.openstack.org/118186 | 18:24 |
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| torgomatic | thank you, unattended-upgrades; without you, my benchmark results might be valid. | 18:32 |
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| notmyname | on the other hand, shellshock | 18:41 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 18:41 |
| clayg | swifterdarrell: so i may have lost, but only because the behavior is wrong ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1381178 | 18:45 |
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| swift_fan | What do you think are the biggest determining factors, of bringing down the price of cloud object storage ? | 20:11 |
| notmyname | swift release notes updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno#OpenStack_Object_Storage_.28Swift.29 | 20:15 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | everyone please continue to update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-swift-summit-topics with summit topics | 21:31 |
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| swift_fan | Is there a way to "gracefully stop" stunnel ? | 21:49 |
| swift_fan | https://swiftstack.com/blog/2013/12/20/upgrade-openstack-swift-no-downtime/ doesn't seem to explain. | 21:49 |
| swift_fan | And most sources for implementing a continuous upgrading process seem to point to that resource. | 21:49 |
| zaitcev | There's no word "stunnel" in that article. | 21:49 |
| zaitcev | And I cannot guess how stunnel could be related to Swift. Not to mention how you "stop" one. | 21:50 |
| swift_fan | well, in Swift you have "swift-init _____ shutdown" instead of just "swift-init _____ stop". | 21:51 |
| zaitcev | And? What does it have to do with stunnel? | 21:51 |
| swift_fan | I'm wondering if stunnel has an equivalent as well. | 21:51 |
| swift_fan | For gracefully stopping the service. | 21:51 |
| swifterdarrell | swift_fan: try #stunnel? | 21:51 |
| swift_fan | swifterdarrell : There is no such. | 21:52 |
| zackmdavis | swift_fan, what have you tried so far? | 21:52 |
| swifterdarrell | swift_fan: rats! I guess you'll have to either read the source code (stunnel is open-source, right?), perhaps a man page or two? | 21:53 |
| zaitcev | This can't be real | 21:53 |
| zaitcev | And I think it's smart_developer under a new nick | 21:53 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: yes | 21:54 |
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| mattoliverau | swift_fan: you could check the init script, add a graceful your self, (send a nice kill (12)) and then wait, if it doesn't work after x amount of then kill -9. Or you can block _new_ connections to then stunnel port and kill once existing connections are finished. (Script it). But first check to see if a graceful stop exists in the man page or source. | 21:59 |
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| swifterdarrell | swift_fan: don't forget to gracefully restart your stunnel after you patch the SSL 3.0 vulnerability tomorrow: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/14/nasty_ssl_30_vulnerability_to_drop_tomorrow/ | 22:04 |
| acorwin | swift_fan: i thought that was gonna be an onion link at first glance... | 22:09 |
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| notmyname | acorwin: it is el reg... | 22:11 |
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| notmyname | FYI, time to go check your SSLv3 implementation (ie turn it off) http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/18151930#18151930 | 22:55 |
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| AlexN | Hi! Could you please tell will Juno release support Erasure Codes? | 23:12 |
| notmyname | AlexN: no. juno has already been cut, and the ec work is currently ongoing | 23:12 |
| AlexN | thx! | 23:18 |
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