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| openstackgerrit | Nirmal Thacker proposed a change to openstack/swift: Container Auditor should log a warning if the devices path contains a non-directory. https://review.openstack.org/97148 | 04:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fix pop_queue for move object twice https://review.openstack.org/103731 | 05:05 |
| clayg | notmyname: this one is sorta crappy -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103731/ | 05:07 |
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| mattoliverau | That's it for me, time to go cook dinner, night all! | 07:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fix KeyError on Storage Policy Container Sync https://review.openstack.org/102747 | 07:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add X-Backend-Timestamp on more object server responses https://review.openstack.org/103776 | 07:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Capture 409 Conflict during expect on PUT https://review.openstack.org/103777 | 07:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Remove the X-Newest pre-flight request on X-Timestamp https://review.openstack.org/103778 | 07:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add support for multiple container-reconciler https://review.openstack.org/103779 | 07:50 |
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| hugokuo | Hola | 07:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 13:12 |
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| peluse_ | notmyname: just noticed one that's not on the dashboard that looks ready to go (thing you found): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102052/1 | 13:19 |
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| acoles | peluse_: i see it on dashboard :) - i think that dashboard url has filters on reviews for which you are owner | 13:50 |
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| peluse_ | acoles: ahhh, thanks | 13:59 |
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| acoles | peluse_: try http://bit.ly/1qfsVgR | 14:06 |
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| peluse_ | acoles: coolio | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Add SAIO fix for Ubuntu 12.04 https://review.openstack.org/103446 | 14:22 |
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| salec | hey guys, if I only have a single swift node, is the data still resilient (does swift still make multiple copies of the data)? or does it rely on multiple nodes to make copies? | 14:58 |
| ctennis | it will make multiple copies across disks in the same node | 14:58 |
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| salec | awesome! thanks :) | 15:02 |
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| jasond | is the AUTH_ part of a tempurl always required or can it be something else? | 15:04 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:13 |
| notmyname | jasond: something should be there. it's what allows the swift accounts to be segmented into different auth systems. you can change AUTH to something else (the reseller prefix), but you should have something there (and you can't change it on existing accounts) | 15:14 |
| jasond | notmyname: just what i was looking for. thanks | 15:15 |
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| tdasilva | salec: your ring will still need to be configured correctly to make multiple copies across disks on the same node.... | 15:26 |
| clayg | gholt: hrmm... yeah sorry, i guess the part that makes it so it should be about the same was in the other refernced change -> "You'll want to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103777/1 first" | 15:27 |
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| salec | tdasilva: Do the docs for single node installs configure the ring correctly for that? Or is there some other resource I use? | 15:41 |
| notmyname | salec: how many drives to do you have in your rings? | 15:42 |
| salec | 8 | 15:43 |
| notmyname | 3 replicas? | 15:45 |
| salec | I don't have it just yet, as I won't pick it up until I'm sure it will suit my needs. But I'm looking to build a simple storage system with 8 3TB drives in it setup as JBOD | 15:46 |
| notmyname | salec: ok, so swift will put each piece of data on 3 different drives. if those are all in the same server, then that server will be your failure domain. if you have more than one server, you'll have higher availability since swift will spread the data across multiple servers | 15:47 |
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| salec | yep :) I'm ok with that. Eventually I'll add a second server for redundancy | 16:09 |
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| dANOKELOFF | hi , it's possible with curl command to delete non-empty containers ? | 16:26 |
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| peluse_ | dANOKELOFF: no, not with one curl cmd. you can use swift client or write your own script to first del the objects though | 16:34 |
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| notmyname | paris summit CFP opened today: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2014-July/008218.html | 16:57 |
| notmyname | (yes it feels like we just got back from the last one) | 16:58 |
| peluse_ | wow | 16:59 |
| notmyname | acoles: thanks for sending the keystone v3 email to the ML | 17:00 |
| notmyname | hope we get valuable feedback there | 17:00 |
| acoles | notmyname: yeah, lets see what comes back | 17:01 |
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| notmyname | acoles: how about this? http://bit.ly/1iVBigF | 17:21 |
| notmyname | I added a "My Patches" section | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed a change to openstack/swift: Small cleanup to ring serialization https://review.openstack.org/97615 | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fix the section name in CONTRIBUTING.rst https://review.openstack.org/103783 | 17:44 |
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| acoles | notmyname: nice! | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: SimpleClient http proxying https://review.openstack.org/102598 | 18:00 |
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| notmyname | who's editing the priority reviews page? | 18:17 |
| notmyname | clayg: is it you? | 18:17 |
| torgomatic | I edited it, but I stopped once I was done adding a link | 18:20 |
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| torgomatic | notmyname: ^^ | 18:20 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: you added the performance section? | 18:20 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: yup | 18:20 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: ok. I rejiggered it a little and added some links there too | 18:21 |
| notmyname | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 18:21 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: ah, cool... maybe put the parallel auditor in there too? | 18:21 |
| notmyname | should be relatively updated enough to give people a direction on what to do next, especially with the new gerrit dashboard hotness | 18:21 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: ya, that one too | 18:21 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: I'll add the link | 18:22 |
| torgomatic | thanks | 18:22 |
| torgomatic | I'm glad to see you put the zero-copy GET in there... I think that one's useful, but I didn't want to add a new section and then dump my own changes in it :) | 18:22 |
| notmyname | I think the "needs approval" and "needs feedback" sections of the dashboard link are going to be really useful for keeping on top of proposed patches | 18:23 |
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| torgomatic | yeah, I definitely agree there. I have a couple of queries bookmarked for those, but it's nice to get a single page instead of multiple tabs | 18:32 |
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| notmyname | acoles: portante: peluse_: creiht: clayg: torgomatic: I've been talking to some marketing people about doing some press releases around the 2.0 release, and one of their pieces of feedback is that it's better to do it on a monday rather than the thursday before a holiday | 18:34 |
| notmyname | so, in their ideal world, the release would be monday am instead of thursday. but either way, they want to do the press releases at the same time as the actual release. so we're in the driver's seat there | 18:35 |
| notmyname | what do you think? | 18:35 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: you're the one with the ability to tag things, but a couple extra days for testing don't bother me any | 18:36 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: actually, I don't have that power. I just tell the right people that the right SHA is ready to go. so, in other words, I just send emails | 18:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Document the unnecessary method invoking in FakeRing https://review.openstack.org/103407 | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Remove fake _get_part and use the real thing https://review.openstack.org/103962 | 18:38 |
| portante | Sounds good to release after the 4th | 18:39 |
| portante | notmyname: | 18:39 |
| clayg | portante: well there's a couple of bugs I found that I'd like to get into the release if it's reasonable - nothing major | 18:43 |
| portante | cool, so in general don't think it hurts us to wait a bit longer | 18:44 |
| clayg | notmyname: oh, are we not *allowed* to edit the priority review page? | 18:44 |
| notmyname | clayg: you can do whatever you want. just concurrent editing is tricky, and I wanted to make sure I didn't smoosh the other changes. or, if you rather, notmyanme RAGE! SMASH OTHER CONTRIBUTORS! | 18:45 |
| clayg | oh my | 18:46 |
| clayg | OH, yeah I'm not editing it *currently* - I didn't understand the tense of your question :P | 18:46 |
| portante | hulk smash | 18:47 |
| notmyname | sorry. and it was all torgomatic's fault anyway :-) | 18:47 |
| portante | all these operations | 18:47 |
| portante | I wonder what they are actually doing to notmyname ... | 18:47 |
| notmyname | clayg: ya, the outstanding 2 patches for 2.0 (one merged one not) are what we gotta figure out about. do we backport those or not? what impact does that have for testing | 18:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add X-Backend-Timestamp on more object server responses https://review.openstack.org/103776 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Capture 409 Conflict during expect on PUT https://review.openstack.org/103777 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Remove the X-Newest pre-flight request on X-Timestamp https://review.openstack.org/103778 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add support for multiple container-reconciler https://review.openstack.org/103779 | 19:10 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: are there any plans on creating a new tag such as rc2 before the official release? | 19:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Container Auditor should log a warning if the devices path contains a non-directory. https://review.openstack.org/97148 | 19:27 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: that's what we gotta figure out this afternoon. in general, though, if nothing comes up that needs to be backported, then there will be another tag at the same sha as 2.0.0.rc1 for the 2.0.0 release | 19:40 |
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| notmyname | FYI the defcore/tc meeting is starting now in #openstack-meeting | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | gholt proposed a change to openstack/swift: SimpleClient http proxying https://review.openstack.org/102598 | 20:26 |
| clayg | ohai | 20:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add more tests for SimpleClient http proxy https://review.openstack.org/103994 | 20:38 |
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| clayg | notmyname: i think either/both 102747 and 103731 are good candidates for backport | 20:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Fix SLO test with old simplejson https://review.openstack.org/99805 | 21:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add more tests for SimpleClient http proxy https://review.openstack.org/103994 | 21:20 |
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| piousbox | meow | 21:38 |
| piousbox | Hi people. If I have an OpenStack and a Swift, how do I make OpenStack aware of my Swift? | 21:38 |
| piousbox | I installed OpenStack with Mirantis Fuel. | 21:38 |
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| peluse_ | notmyname: agree on post holiday thing, also feel free to have your people contact my people to arrange for other PR activies around 2.0 :) | 21:52 |
| peluse_ | portante: what's the status on SP support for in process func tests? | 21:53 |
| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:58 |
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| notmyname | peluse_: do you have a contact email you can pm me? I'm already talking with lsell from the foundation about it | 22:05 |
| notmyname | lsell: <-- laruen, does marketing for openstack foundation | 22:05 |
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| peluse_ | notmyname: yup, will send it over email | 22:16 |
| notmyname | peluse_: thanks | 22:16 |
| notmyname | peluse_: clayg: creiht: portante: acoles: torgomatic: new plan! | 22:18 |
| torgomatic | screw object storage, we're doing function storage? | 22:19 |
| notmyname | it's monads all the way down! | 22:19 |
| notmyname | backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102747/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103731/ to the RC, cut an RC2, continue testing and release 2.0 on monday | 22:19 |
| peluse_ | torgomatic: function storage eh? Lets fire up a Trello board and get started then! | 22:20 |
| zaitcev | (car cdr) | 22:21 |
| notmyname | any concerns with that plan? | 22:21 |
| notmyname | also, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103731/ since it hasn't landed on master yet | 22:21 |
| notmyname | can't backport something not on master | 22:21 |
| peluse_ | notmyname: no issues here, still doing my rolling upgrade and suffering from totally unrelated issues (slowing me down). Will keep you posted | 22:22 |
| notmyname | creiht: dfg: gholt: glange: redbo: if there's anything that you have found in your testing at RAX, especially anything where a patch would invalidate existing testing, please speak up | 22:23 |
| notmyname | the current 2 proposed backport patches do not appear to invalidate most QA testing that would be done. one is container sync and the other is the reconciler (an edge case in the edge case) | 22:24 |
| notmyname | lsell: here? | 22:33 |
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| markd | Hey there, I am trying to install swift on ubuntu 14.04 (icehouse). Using the guide here: http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_swift.html | 22:36 |
| markd | When I go to run the ring builder I keep getting: sudo swift-ring-builder account.builder 18 1 1Ring Builder file does not exist: account.builder | 22:36 |
| markd | does anyone know what is causing this? I have duplicated it now 3 times... sorta starting to go crazy... touching the file causes a python stack trace. | 22:37 |
| zaitcev | don't sudo it and run the whole thing in a directory in your ~ | 22:41 |
| zaitcev | then you can strace | 22:42 |
| markd | ah geez, figured it out. I was forgetting the create command! ARGGGGG! Somehow, just posting here helps! :-) | 22:42 |
| zaitcev | heh | 22:42 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Add test for swift-recon --auditor https://review.openstack.org/100058 | 22:44 |
| peluse_ | notmyname: check your email real quick if you haven't re:press release stuff | 22:44 |
| notmyname | peluse_: got it. I'm adding him to the existing thread of marketing people | 22:44 |
| peluse_ | cool | 22:44 |
| clayg | shouldn't it be like swift-ring-builder account.builder create 18 1 1 | 22:50 |
| clayg | markd: and how many devices do you have in this cluster with a part power of *18* (spoiler alert - anything less than 60 is probably wrong answer) | 22:51 |
| notmyname | clayg: to be fair to markd, don't all the examples have 18? | 22:52 |
| notmyname | markd: http://rackerlabs.github.io/swift-ppc/ | 22:52 |
| clayg | meh, that ones has basically the same "go huge it's awesome!" mentality of every other crystal ball based recommendation i've seen | 22:53 |
| markd | clayg, I am just setting it up to test internal support for swift in our product. Going to run the swift tests. We set it up with 18 1 1, as internally to our product we write 3 times, so no need for 18 3 1. | 22:53 |
| markd | and yes all the examples have 18. Have yet to research what should it be for a real deployment. | 22:54 |
| notmyname | markd: seems that clayg doesn't like it, but that part power calculator gives decent recommendations IMO. basically you want around 100 partition per drive when you have all the drives deployed (ie max possible size of your cluster | 22:55 |
| clayg | notmyname: the max *possible* size of my cluster!? let me see, once I add another region on the moon I might be a billion devices! why does this thing only go to 32!? | 22:56 |
| markd | notmyname, thanks that's good info. I will pass it on to the developer. | 22:56 |
| notmyname | clayg: what else would you use? or is that in your patch to make the part power adjustable? ;-) | 22:57 |
| clayg | don't mind the terrible code/math - the answer is what matters -> https://gist.github.com/clayg/2fb0b467d71a8afd3670 | 22:57 |
| notmyname | lol @ number-of-devices-you-have-in-the-real-hardware-you-are-going-to-deploy | 22:58 |
| clayg | notmyname: just pick something sane for the hardware you are deploying that will scale a good two orders of magnitude and come crying to me in a couple of years if you acctually hit the balancing issues of pikcing "too low" a part power | 22:58 |
| clayg | I've seen pleanty of clusters that went too high | 22:58 |
| * clayg is waiting on vms to build and making noise :P | 22:59 | |
| notmyname | ah, now your comment above makes sense. not how many drives in the cluster; how many drives per server in the cluster. 60/server leads to a part power of 18. got it | 23:00 |
| * notmyname now gets closer to understanding clayg | 23:00 | |
| clayg | oh and also, that thing doesn't only go to 32 - so that's funny for me | 23:00 |
| clayg | pandemicsyn2: is the source for the ppc out there somewhere? does the "min drives" number even get used? | 23:01 |
| notmyname | clayg: ya, min drives changes the output numbers. doesn't change the calculation AFAICT | 23:01 |
| clayg | pandemicsyn2: oh i see it, where it shows me the rediculously high parts per drive number - shouldn't that be in red above ~20K or something? | 23:02 |
| notmyname | clayg: I only get more than a part power of 32 after I get up to 9000000 drives per server (going up by powers of ten each time) | 23:02 |
| notmyname | 9 million drives!!!! | 23:02 |
| notmyname | per server! | 23:02 |
| notmyname | clayg: what kind of fancy kinetic thing are you working on!?!? | 23:03 |
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| clayg | no no no - one *billion* | 23:03 |
| notmyname | "yes, I'd like 3 servers please. 1 billion drives each" | 23:03 |
| * notmyname suspects swift might have a few problems in a mbillion drive cluster | 23:04 | |
| torgomatic | just type "ls /srv/node" and then give up; it won't finish before you do | 23:05 |
| notmyname | lol | 23:05 |
| zaitcev | I have to disagree with Clay | 23:06 |
| zaitcev | Despite all this experience - you never know how big your cluster is going to grow. | 23:07 |
| zaitcev | So, adding one little pause parameter into replicator is much better than tearing your hair once your balancing gets lumpy later. | 23:07 |
| clayg | zaitcev: meh, it's not just the replicator cycle types - your object servers are trying to cache that directory structure too - so you have to have a bunch of ram to support that many parts in each device | 23:09 |
| zaitcev | dude please | 23:12 |
| zaitcev | [root@rhev-a24c-01 ~]# free | 23:12 |
| zaitcev | total used free shared buffers cached | 23:12 |
| zaitcev | Mem: 66028884 2644260 63384624 0 170532 1613764 | 23:12 |
| zaitcev | oh, wait | 23:12 |
| zaitcev | taht was proxy, i don't paco | 23:13 |
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| zaitcev | Mem: 66028880 14008108 52020772 0 204736 630900 | 23:13 |
| zaitcev | [root@rhev-a24c-02 ~]# grep dent /proc/slabinfo | 23:14 |
| zaitcev | dentry 60603648 60603880 192 20 1 : tunables 120 60 8 : slabdata 3030194 3030194 79 | 23:14 |
| zaitcev | Granted this cluster is essentially empty | 23:14 |
| notmyname | fill it up 90% with small objects, then walk the drive and just inodes will fill the page cache | 23:16 |
| clayg | zaitcev: or don't it's fine, part power 18 ftw! | 23:23 |
| clayg | so did markd get his trusty issue squared away? | 23:24 |
| markd | clayg, yes I did, thanks! | 23:25 |
| clayg | markd: oh... well good! | 23:25 |
| notmyname | anyone else looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103731/1 | 23:36 |
| notmyname | ? | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 23:37 |
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| clayg | notmyname: i suppose someone should tell me to write a unittest for it, but none of the eixting tests were really setup to exercise that problem in any meaningful way besdies the probetest... | 23:37 |
| notmyname | clayg: thing I'm wrapping my head around right now is why get_to_final_state() matters for the reconciler | 23:38 |
| notmyname | clayg: is it just to make sure the listing is all up to date? (that makes sense to me) | 23:39 |
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| clayg | notmyname: well objects are enqueued in the replicator - i could have just run those | 23:42 |
| clayg | so like the reconciler runs and it throws out some writes, then you cycle replication to see if anything new shows up to be reconciled | 23:42 |
| notmyname | ya, ok. makes sense. I think I grok it now | 23:42 |
| clayg | meh, it had me scratching my head for awhile | 23:43 |
| clayg | i have a subsequent change I need to do to fix up the log formatting | 23:43 |
| notmyname | well it's really easy to figure out when I read how you solved it. :-) | 23:43 |
| clayg | there's a few places that do '%f' % Timestamp() and you don't see all the important bits | 23:43 |
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