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| notmyname | there's a swift team meeting scheduled today, but nothing on the agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 15:28 |
| portante | adding one | 15:29 |
| notmyname | well, ok then | 15:29 |
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| portante | there, entered, feel free to cut/hack/change/remove as folks see fit | 15:35 |
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| foexle | heyho guys :), is there any possibility to secure the communication between proxy nodes and "storage" nodes ? | 15:37 |
| notmyname | foexle: there's nothing to prevent you from running that over some stunnel or other encrypted pipe. but there isn't anything is swift that does it for you. I'd love to see improvements there, though. eg https://blueprints.launchpad.net/swift/+spec/secure-internal-network-requests | 15:42 |
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| vr1 | hello portante: how do you exactly use paster to generate the eggs from the setup.cfg in /opt/stack/swift ? | 15:43 |
| portante | I think that is just python setup.py install | 15:43 |
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| vr1 | portante: it does not work, it does not update the entry_points | 15:44 |
| portante | /opt/stack/swift? | 15:45 |
| portante | that is unfamiliar to me, how did you first get it installed? | 15:45 |
| portante | devstack? | 15:45 |
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| portante | or are you using the SAIO (swift all-in-one) documentation? | 15:45 |
| vr1 | portante: I use devstack | 15:45 |
| portante | okay, I have never used that, shame on me | 15:46 |
| * notmyname is going offline until later. will be online for the meeting at 1900utc | 15:46 | |
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| vr1 | I think it is "paster something" | 15:46 |
| vr1 | paster --config setup.cfg | 15:46 |
| vr1 | with some other options | 15:46 |
| portante | I have not worked with that before, so let me know how it goes! :) | 15:46 |
| portante | creiht might know, I believe he has worked with devstack before | 15:47 |
| creiht | heh | 15:48 |
| creiht | I have no idea :) | 15:48 |
| portante | rats | 15:49 |
| creiht | I've never messed with anything other than the default devstack setup | 15:49 |
| creiht | otherwise I use my saio | 15:49 |
| vr1 | actually it is because my setuptools are <0.8 | 15:49 |
| vr1 | what do you have when you do dpkg -s python-setuptools | 15:53 |
| vr1 | I have 0.6.24-1ubuntu1 | 15:53 |
| portante | not sure, I mostly work on RHEL or Fedora environments | 15:54 |
| vr1 | setuptools>=0.8 is required for wheel installs. | 15:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tristan Cacqueray proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Makes use of requests.Session https://review.openstack.org/74444 | 16:01 |
| vr1 | it seems that "easy_install -U setuptools" worked for me | 16:02 |
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| vr1 | portante: works fine now | 16:03 |
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| portante | vr1: that is good to hear | 16:29 |
| portante | hopefully you can help others that run into that | 16:29 |
| vr1 | portante: how ? | 16:29 |
| vr1 | is there a place to put such info ? | 16:30 |
| portante | I think there is an openstack ask place now, so that might be a good place to start | 16:31 |
| vr1 | allright | 16:31 |
| vr1 | I need to go now, bye | 16:32 |
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| portante | clayg: gate system is thoroughly checking the clean up account acl sysmeta commit | 16:36 |
| portante | it just wants to be sure there are really no bugs in it | 16:36 |
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| hugokuo | Good morning | 16:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chmouel Boudjnah proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Remove validate_headers https://review.openstack.org/87772 | 17:40 |
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| chmouel | he should probably have used pip install -e. instead of python setup.py install | 17:42 |
| chmouel | and probably didn't do sudo first | 17:43 |
| portante | chmouel: you are talking about vr1's comments above? | 17:43 |
| portante | or earlier? | 17:43 |
| chmouel | yeah sorry | 17:43 |
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| clayg | portante: i should probably rebase it... | 17:57 |
| portante | okay, I'll recheck and get this going as you as it is ready | 17:58 |
| clayg | dfg: yeah a new reqeust helper that's only used once is pretty silly, I wonder who else says sysmetaprefix + something that could be converted... I think all of them were core-access-control (which now just use the constant) | 17:59 |
| clayg | dfg: I need to rebase anyway, I'll check for that... | 17:59 |
| MooingLemur | Can container-sync be parallelized more than 1 process per container server? If I run additional copies (perhaps with --once), can I get some extra performance out of it, or is that a bad idea due to contention? | 18:02 |
| dfg | clayg: ok | 18:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Clean up Account ACL sysmeta in AccountController https://review.openstack.org/80140 | 18:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/swift: Harden v2 common.middleware.acl interface https://review.openstack.org/80188 | 18:12 |
| clayg | dfg: there was one spot that was fixed up in the dependent patch that I think made sense enough to move to the first | 18:12 |
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| dfg | clayg: there | 18:14 |
| dfg | s like a whole screen full of jenkins rechecks since yesterday- sheesh | 18:14 |
| clayg | dfg: ? | 18:14 |
| clayg | dfg: oh yeah idk what that was all about, maybe it was broken? we'll see if a rebase helps... | 18:14 |
| portante | thorough gate system, perhaps? | 18:15 |
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| clayg | portante: idk, seems a bunch of patches are getting dinged | 18:22 |
| portante | hmm, like the gate is broken kinda dinged? | 18:22 |
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| briancline | MooingLemur: if you get an answer to that, I'd certainly be interested in what you hear | 18:28 |
| sunglasses | hi guys! | 18:28 |
| clayg | chmouel: i'm spinning up my devstack vm to see if I can get something reasonable for the swift auth command on -V 2 auth | 18:29 |
| clayg | chmouel: you don't happen to have a patch already do you? | 18:30 |
| briancline | has anyone seen behavior where tombstoned files aren't being cleaned up? | 18:30 |
| clayg | briancline: hugokuo opened a bug for somethign like that which had to do with suffixes going unused for a long while I think | 18:31 |
| clayg | briancline: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1301728 seems to be it | 18:31 |
| clayg | briancline: be interesting if you could somehow verify that you're be effected by that bug? | 18:32 |
| briancline | clayg: sounds similar, yeah. need to refamiliarize myself with the hashes stuff and see if I can confirm | 18:34 |
| clayg | briancline: yeah I feel the same way about that bug report | 18:35 |
| sunglasses | got a question how swift handle concurrency. When two clients write to swift storage server at the same time before the other finishes writing using the same URL, what is supposed to be the expected behavior? | 18:35 |
| clayg | sunglasses: x-timestamp is assigned on early in the proxy before backend connection, it's like .00001 second resolution, last write wins | 18:37 |
| briancline | clayg: I've already verified logged deletions within the reclaim_age match the amount of tombstones with an mtime in the same period, but from reclaim_age back, there are many orders of magnitude more tombstones. the hashes piece to this may tell me once and for all | 18:37 |
| clayg | briancline: oh bother | 18:38 |
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| sunglasses | +clayg: thanks! is this documented somewhere? I actually have a lot more questions about swift's handling of concurrency, consistency, fail-over, and high availability. I'd like to read this before I ask questions, to avoid redundancy. | 18:40 |
| clayg | hrmmm... | 18:41 |
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| clayg | sunglasses: I don't know if it's consolidated anywhere besides the source code - but I haven't gone looking in a while, there's lots of need to know stuff in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/ and then maybe you could glean something useful from https://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/09/13/how-openstack-swift-handles-hardware-failures/ | 18:44 |
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| sunglasses | clayg: yes. i looked at the first link you sent me. it doesn't answer all the questions i have. i'm going to look at the second link. Thanks! :) | 18:46 |
| clayg | sunglasses: maybe http://programmerthoughts.com/openstack/swift-tech-overview/ or http://greg.brim.net/post/2011/03/31/2340.html | 18:47 |
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| clayg | sunglasses: you should also open questions on https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/ just to get them documented | 18:50 |
| clayg | sunglasses: if you find any relevant meterial you can even answer your own question with a link and help out the next guy | 18:50 |
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| sunglasses | clayg: yes, for sure. | 18:53 |
| portante | briancline: what version of swift are you using again? | 18:54 |
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| notmyname | logged in from conference wifi | 18:59 |
| notmyname | ...let's see how this holds up | 18:59 |
| notmyname | swift team meeting time in about 1 minute | 18:59 |
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| notmyname | wow this is horrible lag | 19:01 |
| sunglasses | clayg: is the timestamp that is assigned to the writes relative to the proxy server or the client? What I mean is, is the timestamp sent by the client, or is the timestamp generated by the proxy server when it receives the request? Also, what is supposed to happen when the second request fails to write completely? I've run a few experiments on my server, but I'm not sure if I should make any conclusions. | 19:04 |
| clayg | sunglasses: well... the timestamp is set by the proxy, if a write doesn't complete it won't get moved into the datadir and it's like it didn't happen - but if some of the nodes complete the write replication will sort it out eventually | 19:10 |
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| sunglasses | clayg: so that means that it is possible that during a concurrent write, swift persists data from both requests (when the first write finishes before the second write). Unless I request to download the latest, it is possible for me to download the object from the first write request (because replication has not happened between the nodes yet). | 19:17 |
| sunglasses | in the case where the first write finishes after second write, the contents of the first write won't be moved into the datadir. Is that correct? | 19:18 |
| clayg | i think i parse what you're saying and it sounds correct - with overwrites it's possible in an eventually consistent system to get a stale read - definiately | 19:19 |
| creiht | sunglasses: swift isn't optimized for highly concurrent writes to a single object | 19:19 |
| creiht | so there are some edge cases | 19:20 |
| creiht | that could even happen with not so concurrent overwrites | 19:20 |
| creiht | for example a node goes down that has an old version | 19:20 |
| creiht | new version written | 19:20 |
| creiht | node comes back up | 19:20 |
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| creiht | replication will eventually take care of it | 19:21 |
| creiht | and that is where eventual consistency comes in | 19:21 |
| creiht | there are ways that you can mitigate around this a bit, but depends on your use case | 19:22 |
| portante | sunglasses: I don't think the time it takes to do the actual writes factors into which object wins, I think it is the timestamps applied to the PUT request by the proxy servers involved | 19:23 |
| portante | so first, make sure all your proxy-servers share the same time information (preferrably UTC), perhaps using NTP? | 19:24 |
| portante | are you doing that today? | 19:24 |
| portante | second, which ever PUT request has the later timestamp will eventually win | 19:25 |
| sunglasses | portante: i am playing around w/ swift right now. figuring it out. I'll look into multiple proxy servers after I have a better understanding of Swift w/ one proxy. | 19:26 |
| portante | k | 19:27 |
| sunglasses | portante: thanks for the advice on using UTC/NTP | 19:27 |
| portante | so with one proxy server, each PUT request gets a timestamp when the headers of the request are processed initially | 19:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed a change to openstack/swift: Make ranges_for_length return (first, last) pairs https://review.openstack.org/63327 | 19:51 |
| peluse_ | torgomatic: you kinda sorta here for quick list_enpoints chat? | 19:53 |
| torgomatic | peluse_: in a sec; on skype atm | 19:54 |
| peluse_ | torgomatic: OK | 19:54 |
| peluse_ | torgomatic: no hurry | 19:54 |
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| dmsimard | Oh wow, didn't know cschwede was at Enovance :p Can't wait to see the possibilities https://review.openstack.org/60215 will open. | 20:00 |
| chmouel | cschwede: hey christian, i am trying to test your review for swiftclient functional tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76355/ | 20:03 |
| chmouel | cschwede: so it works with nosetests tests/functional | 20:03 |
| chmouel | cschwede: but can't run it with ./.functests or testr i am getting this http://pastie.org/pastes/9085838/text?key=l0fx5osnvr4yvowsw3zra | 20:03 |
| chmouel | cschwede: can you run it? | 20:03 |
| chmouel | dmsimard: so many enovancers :) | 20:03 |
| dmsimard | chmouel: Do you know if the MTL office is moved now ? | 20:04 |
| chmouel | dmsimard: i am in montreal today :) but no that should be next month | 20:05 |
| dmsimard | Must be crowded in there now | 20:05 |
| dmsimard | Say hello to Ignace from me :) | 20:05 |
| chmouel | dmsimard: ah we have a new temporary office near the vieux port as well which is bigger than the small old one | 20:06 |
| chmouel | and i just high fived ignace for you :) | 20:07 |
| torgomatic | peluse_: what's up? | 20:13 |
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| peluse_ | so in the current SP enabled list_enpoints I have a bug - when calling get_container_info I pass in an env that doesn't have a version in the path so the path parsers on down the line get the parms all out of whack.. unit tests pass because they fake get_info. Discovered while doing an example for the docs. | 20:15 |
| peluse_ | As there is no auth here can I just add a dummy version to the path, it seems to work? | 20:16 |
| peluse_ | stripped = request.environ | 20:16 |
| peluse_ | if stripped['PATH_INFO'][:10] == "/endpoints": | 20:16 |
| peluse_ | stripped['PATH_INFO'] = "/ver" + stripped['PATH_INFO'][10:] | 20:16 |
| peluse_ | container_info = get_container_info( | 20:16 |
| peluse_ | stripped, self.app, swift_source='LE') | 20:16 |
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| torgomatic | yeah, stick a /v1 on it and call it a day | 20:16 |
| peluse_ | :) | 20:16 |
| peluse_ | thanks | 20:17 |
| torgomatic | sure :) | 20:17 |
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| cschwede | chmouel: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76355/ - do you used the latest patchset? I updated it a few hours ago, and fixed it | 20:20 |
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| peluse_ | man, this little thing on master keeps bitting me - is nobody else affected? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87394/ if any cores are bored and want to look at a net 2 line change I'd appreciate it! | 20:20 |
| cschwede | chmouel: i think it was the same error you see on the gate | 20:20 |
| cschwede | peluse_: checking | 20:21 |
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| cschwede | peluse_: when do you see the sporadic failures? shouldn’t we see them on the gate too? | 20:22 |
| peluse_ | cschwede: I see them on my SAIO, comparing the sorted output fixes it for sure and it obvious in the failure that the two containers in the listing are sometimes in reverse order. No idea why more people aren't seeing it. Lucky me I guess? | 20:26 |
| cschwede | peluse_: maybe - and hopefully it’s fixed soon for you, at least it’s approved by now :) | 20:27 |
| openstackgerrit | paul luse proposed a change to openstack/swift: Quick fix to Storage Policy Support for List Endpoints https://review.openstack.org/88079 | 20:28 |
| peluse_ | cschwede: thank you! | 20:28 |
| peluse_ | and thanks torgomatic too! | 20:29 |
| torgomatic | np :) | 20:29 |
| cschwede | peluse_: you’re welcome! | 20:30 |
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| cschwede | chmouel: running ./functests in my local saio in python-swiftclient works for me | 20:36 |
| cschwede | chmouel: http://paste.openstack.org/show/75974/ | 20:37 |
| cschwede | i’m off for today, see you! bye | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | paul luse proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add Storage Policy Documentation https://review.openstack.org/85824 | 20:42 |
| peluse_ | see ya | 20:42 |
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| chmouel | cschwede: ok it's prob my env issue | 21:25 |
| dfg | clayg: you there? | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Add some bash helpers for auth stuff https://review.openstack.org/86224 | 21:31 |
| clayg | dfg: yeah! but about to run off | 21:31 |
| clayg | dfg: but i can tell them you're more important (you are) | 21:32 |
| clayg | chmouel: can you hit me back on https://review.openstack.org/86224 - if it's close but not quite right I'd appreciate any feedback (or a push over the change that works for you!) | 21:32 |
| chmouel | clayg: willl do what about detecting every variable starting by OS_ and printing them instead of building a static list? | 21:33 |
| clayg | chmouel: like looking in the existing environment? or is there some dictionary in the code that would list them out and tell me how to map them back into options.os_ attrs? | 21:34 |
| dfg | clayg: its not a huge deal. just that review. if you gotta take off then go ahead | 21:34 |
| clayg | dfg: that stupid acl thing? | 21:34 |
| clayg | dfg: just fucking tell me it's stupid on gerrit - I'll fix it up! | 21:35 |
| chmouel | clayg: ah yeah sorry forgot about my comment | 21:35 |
| dfg | :) | 21:35 |
| clayg | dfg: i'm just joking around, sometimes it's easier to get the point across with some back and forth | 21:35 |
| clayg | i am going to run off - but if you leave me a note i'll follow up as soon as i can | 21:36 |
| dfg | clayg: ok. see ya | 21:36 |
| clayg | chmouel: thanks - yeah just leave me a note - i'll try and figure out the right thing to do | 21:36 |
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| chmouel | clayg: +2 is good just a litle comment about a conflict with an another review from christian | 21:37 |
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| chmouel | i like how you dealt with --verbose for the extras options as well | 21:38 |
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| joeljwright | chmouel: Any thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/85453 ? I'd like to make some progress that wasn't just fighting with jenkins | 21:45 |
| joeljwright | The check-grenade-dsvm test fails but I think we've tracked it down to the lack of futures in openstack/requirements in the stable/havana branch | 21:46 |
| joeljwright | I submitted a patch for that too (https://review.openstack.org/86850) but there have been no comments | 21:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | paul luse proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add Storage Policy support to the Account Reaper https://review.openstack.org/88098 | 22:12 |
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| clayg | chmouel: thanks for the heads up I'll try to get a review on that and rebase mine as a depends - awesome | 22:27 |
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| ryao | Are there specifications on Swift or liberally licensed libraries suitable for use in kernels? | 22:30 |
| notmyname | ryao: Swift is under the Apache 2 license (and the API is well documented) | 22:32 |
| ryao | notmyname: That is not GPLv2 compatible. :/ | 22:33 |
| notmyname | I wasn't aware of that (but I'm also not a license authority) | 22:34 |
| ryao | Do you have a link to the API documentation? | 22:34 |
| notmyname | ryao: I'm curious what you're trying to do. "for use in kernels" sounds interesting | 22:35 |
| notmyname | ryao: in the openstack docs: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-object-storage/1.0/content/ | 22:35 |
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| ryao | notmyname: Matthew Thode mentioned it in here a few months ago and I said I would try prototyping it. I am planning to try soon. | 22:36 |
| ryao | notmyname: Anyway, it was Swift integration into ZFS. | 22:37 |
| ryao | notmyname: Thanks for the link. :) | 22:37 |
| * notmyname want's to make some joke about ZFS and licensing... | 22:37 | |
| notmyname | s/'// (it's been a long day) | 22:38 |
| ryao | notmyname: If it works, I want it available on as many platforms as possible. | 22:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Pecoraro proposed a change to openstack/swift: Allow hostname for nodes in Ring https://review.openstack.org/80421 | 23:01 |
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| zaitcev | Apr 16 19:03:14 localhost proxy-server: Pipeline was modified. New pipeline is "catch_errors gatekeeper healthcheck proxy_logging memcache tempauth proxy_logging proxy" | 23:03 |
| zaitcev | Brave new world | 23:03 |
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| ryao | Are there any good swift servers that can be used in the development of a swift client? | 23:08 |
| ryao | Or well, a reference server? | 23:09 |
| zaitcev | just install one | 23:10 |
| ryao | zaitcev: Names? | 23:10 |
| ryao | I guess what I need is a getting started guide. | 23:11 |
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