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jose-idartest?15:52
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notmynamegood morning everyone16:30
tristanCGood morning notmyname16:34
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notmynametristanC: I saw some emails around your swiftclient changes this weekend. thanks.16:34
tristanCnotmyname: you are welcome :) Last patchset is looking good I think16:35
notmynametristanC: so porting to requests means that we lose the ability to disable ssl compression, right? any news on that?16:36
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tristanCnotmyname: I think it is more the ability to not disable ssl compression that we loose.16:37
notmynametristanC: can I add an agenda item for this week's swift meeting about this with your name on it?16:38
tristanCnotmyname: yes sure16:39
portantemornin16:39
notmynamecool. done https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift16:39
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notmynametristanC: there is other talk about py3 in swift, so I'm sure that will come up for swiftclient too16:40
notmynameportante: good morning16:40
tristanCnotmyname: this issue is still a bit confusing. Between urllib3 fix, pyopenssl contrib support. Anyway now, the ssl_compression parameter is useless :(16:40
notmynametristanC: that's an unfortunate regression.16:41
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notmynametristanC: wait. useless as in ssl_compression is always enabled or disabled?16:41
zaitcev_Indeed, if we get it disabled, I say good riddance16:42
tristanCnotmyname: as it should be disabled16:42
notmynameah. well that's no so bad then16:43
notmyname(for the record all these negatives are hard to keep straight)16:43
notmynamewe can't no longer disable no compression16:44
notmynameso essentially, ssl compression will always be disabled. which is probably a good thing, but importantly for clients it's also a change in defaults16:44
notmynamehowever, I'll also tag the last 1.x series of swiftclient and tag 2.0 when/if this patch lands16:45
notmynametristanC: and we also get cert validation with this patch, too, right?16:46
tristanCnotmyname: I'm confident the lib requests will solve that ssl_compression + 100-continue things correctly. For the record, the port I'm working on is to fix the cert validation16:46
notmynameotherjon: ping when you get in16:46
notmynametristanC: ah. what's the status of 100-continue?16:46
tristanCnotmyname: not sure, I'll have to look at it16:47
notmynametristanC: well, to be fair, "do cert validation" has kinda morphed into "replace the fundamental library used to do http connections"16:47
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notmynamedoh!16:48
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notmynamelurn to reed16:49
notmyname /me16:49
tristanCnotmyname: and I believe it's the right thing to do, as the cert validation is tricky, and requests do it right16:49
notmynametristanC: ya, I understand that. but the ssl compression change and 100-continue support are issues that need to be addressed to.16:49
notmynametristanC: sounds like ssl compression is an ok-ish change (ie change the default, but to something that is probably better). I'd hate to lose support for 100-continue though. it's terribly handy16:50
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tristanCnotmyname: agree, I'll look into those for the next meetin then16:54
notmynamethanks16:55
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otherjonnotmyname: ping17:14
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notmynameotherjon: it's monday! checking in on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63227/17:22
otherjonnotmyname: AFAIK we're good to merge17:23
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notmynameotherjon: I concur. I just threw it at jenkins. let's see what happens :-)17:34
otherjonthanks, notmyname17:36
notmynameotherjon: no, thank you for sticking with it17:37
tristanCnotmyname: I updated the agenda with relevant link on both issue (ssl comp && 100-continue). The 100-continue is not supported and no patch in progress afaik17:38
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tnewsomeDo I need to restart/reload swift services after distributing the rings files?19:18
notmynametnewsome: no, they will be automatically reloaded (based on mtime)19:18
tnewsomenotmyname: Cool. Thanks.19:18
zaitcev_Aww.19:22
zaitcev_ACLs are in, but PBes are not.19:22
notmynamePartitioned Bubbles? Precious Butane? Pretty Busses? Purple Bromides?19:25
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claygnotmyname: peanut butter - yum yum19:38
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portantepluggable backends, yum yum19:46
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notmynameah, yes. those are tasty too :-)19:47
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openstackgerritPeter Portante proposed a change to openstack/swift: In-process swift server for functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/6610820:18
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portantezaitcev_: reviewing your PBes now20:24
zaitcev_portante: thanks a lot... I need to get to dentist right now, but I'll be back20:25
zaitcev_(hopefuly)20:25
openstackgerritPeter Portante proposed a change to openstack/swift: Reduce line count by two  https://review.openstack.org/7083921:01
notmynameportante: nice :-)21:03
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torgomaticportante: reminds me of the two axioms of software development: (1) you can always squeeze things into one fewer line, and (2) there's always at least one more bug21:07
torgomaticconsequently, any program can be reduced to a single line that doesn't work21:07
portante:)21:08
portantethis is in zaitcev's changes for PBes and rather than saying anything about it I figured I'd just make it happen ahead of that one21:08
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portantetorgomatic: actually my secret goal is to try to stress the gate, now that it is all buff and such21:14
notmynameportante: it's not that buff, actually. they just took weights off the bar21:16
portante;)21:16
torgomaticbuff, eh? reminds me more of an old guy that just got all-terrain wheels on his walker21:16
portantestop it, I gotta do work and not laugh!21:17
portantewhat an image21:17
notmynametorgomatic: extra-large tennis balls on the back feet of the walker?21:18
notmynamefun subject lines on the mailing list: "how to apply a quantum patch".21:19
notmynamedon't observe it? patches are only included if you don't look at them? maybe that says something about code review?21:19
torgomaticnotmyname: if you're having to apply patches to production, you're not in a super position21:21
notmynamebadum chhhshhh21:21
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openstackgerritPeter Portante proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fix up double mocking of swob.Request.__init__  https://review.openstack.org/7085522:02
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mjsegernotmyname: are you around?22:27
notmynamemjseger: ya22:27
notmynamemjseger: what's up?22:28
mjsegerdo you remember that problem I reported where 1KB puts were slower than 2KB puts?22:28
notmynamemjseger: yes. nagle, right?22:28
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mjsegeryes22:28
mjsegerI thought someone was going to patch the client but I never saw the change22:28
mjsegerI asked abotu it last week and clay had said a patch was made to the server22:29
mjsegerbut I don't think that would help the client22:29
notmynamemjseger: https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/3c7c355120a3ebe5c3f47e62176cec8cab82414322:30
notmynamemjseger: that's the server-side patch22:30
mjsegerok, but what about the client-side?22:30
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portantemjseger: yes, i look at the python swift-client and it was not patched22:30
portantebut it is not clear to me why it is so import to patch that particular client?22:30
mjsegerI guess it's important to me  ;)  seriously though is isn't swiftclient the library for people to use if they want to talk to swift via python?22:32
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portantesome do22:32
portanteI work with curl in bash, and pycurl mostly22:32
mjsegerisn't 'some' sufficient enough?22:32
mjsegerdoes pycurl disable nagel at the client?22:32
notmynamemjseger: I don't think anyone would oppose a patch to do it. simply nobody has yet22:32
notmynamemjseger: and yes, python-swiftclient is the official python library (but certainly not the only sdk)22:33
mjsegernotmyname: I could certainly patch it but would need to figure out where22:33
notmynamemjseger: I'd love to have your patch :-)22:34
mjsegernotmyname: I thought it might have been you who posted the patch in IRC and I verified it worked but then lost it because I thought someone raised their have to do it22:34
notmynameI don't have any local branches with a patch like that, so I don't know what it is22:36
mjsegertoo bad IRC doesn't have memory  ;(22:36
mjsegerI'm trying to grep around on some of my test machines to see if it's still enabled, but not optimistic22:37
notmynamewe're logging this channel now (see the topic) so we'll have it going forward22:37
mjsegerI'll continue to dig around and if I can figure something out will submit the patch.22:39
notmynamethanks :-)22:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Privileged acct ACL header, new ACL syntax, TempAuth impl.  https://review.openstack.org/6322722:40
portantezaitcev's got a merge comin' ...22:41
torgomaticheh, the account ACLs patch conflicts with the DLO patch, but swifterdarrell naturally didn't see that when he reviewed it since ACLs were hanging out in the gate queue22:44
torgomaticat least it's just import lines22:44
portanteso that is good22:45
portantehas the gate seen that conflict yet?22:46
portanteor did you just notice that now?22:46
torgomaticportante: yeah, it has, though it's not gonna kick the patch out until it reaches the top22:46
portanteoh22:47
portantebut if you resubmit a patch won't it just toast that patch set in the queue?22:47
notmynameyes22:47
torgomaticbut now that account ACLs has landed, there's 0 chance of that getting kicked out due to flakiness and DLO making it in, so I'm just running tox now to make sure it's good before resubmitting22:47
portantekewl22:47
torgomaticthe last thing I need is another multi-hour delay because I forgot to run pep8 :)22:48
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zaitcevportante: aside from those 2 lines, there was some really odd thing with tests, which had some kind of relation to your code and I cannot remember precisely what it was. Some kind of hand-roll mocking that works in current due to a miracle, but blows up with PBE.22:49
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zaitcevportante: Like... I started 2 proxy servers or something and the current code mocked same thing twice, then blew up with Python stack overflow (yes, really).22:51
zaitcevportante: If you want, I'll distill that into a separate patch from PBE22:51
portanteI at least pulled out that proxy code you did, since that seemed useful and did not want to make you do it, so you can take over that patch set if you want22:52
portantezaitcev: ^22:52
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openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed a change to openstack/swift: Move all DLO functionality to middleware  https://review.openstack.org/6332622:54
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openstackgerritRichard Hawkins proposed a change to openstack/swift: Extends /info to include account/container/object servers.  https://review.openstack.org/6722523:11
openstackgerritJon Snitow proposed a change to openstack/swift: Non-blocking but useful improvements to Account ACLs  https://review.openstack.org/6932123:15
portantezaitcev: that is all the review I can do today on that patch23:19
portanteI'd like to be able to help out and offload ancilary work that falls out from that patch so that you can focus on shepherding that patch as reviews come in23:19
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zaitcevportante: thanks a lot, I'll check what you found and make changes23:20
openstackgerritJon Snitow proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add list-containers access level to account ACLs in tempauth.  https://review.openstack.org/6559623:25
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notmynamechmouel: still up?23:38
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Reduce line count by two  https://review.openstack.org/7083923:40
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MooingLemurdo static large objects interact properly with X-Container-Read: .r:*? This is Swift 1.11.0, my pipeline is "catch_errors healthcheck cache slo tempurl swauth proxy-logging proxy-server", and I'm getting a 401 on an unauthenticated GET request for a SLO, but normal files are gotten fine.23:59
notmynameMooingLemur: both the manifest and the segments need to be readable23:59

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