Tuesday, 2016-09-06

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ianychoiGood morning, ildikov!06:18
ildikovGood morning ianychoi!06:19
ildikovI'm not over coffee yet, so I'm quite useless, but thought to still show up on the channel :)06:20
ianychoiFine! I am working on my business but if you have questions, just call me :)06:20
ildikovI saw your additions06:20
ianychoiI also need to take coffee :)06:21
ianychoiYep how do you think of it?06:21
ildikovI'll add some notes, I think those are good proposals06:21
ianychoiI see. For common parts, I think it looks nice generally06:22
ildikovWe can still keep #upstream-university as a sandbox channel06:22
ianychoiSure :)06:22
ildikovBut if people have real questions and comments why not use smth real, so all good :)06:23
ianychoiAnd I have no idea how two IRC sections (one is small, and the other is bigger) are organized well..06:23
ildikovThanks, I will try to get there to upload a few patches today for the general parts06:24
ianychoiI found an IRC meeting log during last Tokyo upstream training : http://paste.openstack.org/show/567030/06:25
ianychoiIs there a kind of IRC log on Austin upstream training?06:25
ildikovI'm not sure yet about the order of things, but IRC can be good for people who's English is less good and shy speaking as well06:25
ildikovWe didn't have a meeting on IRC in Austin IIRC06:26
ianychoiAha.. I see! :)06:26
ildikovWe were quite under organized so it would be good to have slides that help the presenter as well06:27
ianychoiOkay, got it!06:28
ianychoiSo you think #openstack-101 is fine, right?06:28
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ianychoiI can submit a patch on openstack-infra: to invite 'openstack' bot on #openstack-101 , but I would like to confirm 1) whether Barcelona upstream training will use IRC as exercise and 2) I think we need approval at least matjazp06:29
ildikovI think it is06:29
ildikovSure, let's ask others as well06:30
ianychoi+1 :) thanks!06:30
ildikovWe should use IRC more as that will be crucial for people, who will stay and contribute06:31
ianychoiI completely agree with you06:31
csatariHi all.06:50
csatariHow do we do this?06:51
ianychoiHello csatari !06:57
csatariHi, ianychoi I'm happy to do some material development, but I have no idea where / how to start.06:59
ianychoiWhich parts are you interested in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements ?07:01
ianychoiPossible parts are 1) virtualbox tool 2) revising 'common' part 3) revising 'contribution' part 4) upstream training management tooling07:07
ianychoi+ any other part(s) are kindly welcome!! :)07:07
ildikovcsatari: Good Morning :)07:19
ildikovcsatari: like how ianychoi pointed out we have several modules to work on07:21
ildikovcsatari: two more etherpads: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-uni-common-items07:22
ildikovand https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-uni-code-contribution07:22
ildikovtraining-guides compiled docco: http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/07:24
ildikovtraining-guides repo: https://github.com/openstack/training-guides/tree/master/doc/upstream-training07:24
csatariianychoi, ildikov: Thanks I can start working on 2) revising 'common' part07:32
ildikovcsatari: cool :)07:33
ildikovcsatari: we mainly worked on the etherpad so far07:33
csatariOkay. Shall I clarify one section in a sense that it contains concrete actions on the material first?07:35
ildikovcsatari: I think it would be great to see what we have as existing material and update that and/or add new ideas to the etherpad07:35
csatariOkay07:35
ildikovI think it's easier to decide the high levels on the etherpad and lower level things can go into the patches and Gerrit review07:36
ildikovI can jump on Hangouts later if you feel like talking about it, I just couldn't get to my coffee yet still :)07:36
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csatariildikov: Okay, let's move to the Hangouts. I have some specific questions about the "Introduce OpenStack as software" section.08:15
ildikovsorry, I've just seen your ping08:32
ildikovI'll set it up in a few minutes08:32
ildikovcsatari: I'm on Hangouts now08:36
ildikovcsatari: sorry for the delay :S08:36
csatariildikov: Me too, but my mic is not working. I'm fixing it.08:37
ianychoiWhat is the address for hangout?08:46
ianychoiFound it.08:46
ianychoiHangout URL is  https://hangouts.google.com/call/dbtrqqt5gffgxmbjttlr2gptbie (written in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VirtualSprints#Upstream_training_Sprint )09:03
csatariildikov: Okay, I can reproduce this https://www.ustack.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/big-tent.png09:09
csatariMaybe we should explain what a core service is.09:10
ildikovcsatari: sounds cool, I wonder whether there's anything on any OpenStack websites we could use09:13
ildikovso that you don't need to reproduce09:14
ildikovor if we could use this or smth similar with reference?09:14
ildikovianychoi: any idea about what images/diagrams we can use and how? ^^09:14
ianychoicsatari, I added some definition on core and optional services on Etherpad09:14
ianychoiA screenshot from http://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/ ?09:15
csatariianychoi: Thanks for the definitions.09:20
ianychoicsatari, can you open https://www.openstack.org/assets/marketing/Liberty-release-overview.pptx file? The resolution would be better I think09:20
csatariProject Navigator should be condensed somehow (I tried the screenshot way :))09:20
csatariianychoi> I can open the ppt.09:21
csatariOkay, so we can reuse this figure to show the Big Tent.09:22
ianychoiHmm... I will convert to PDF and share the link via dropbox09:22
ianychoiYep but your link has the figure with image format, which resolution is not good. I am just worried about this point. The picture is nice :)09:22
ianychoiPlease see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dgcadogwvogm0hs/Liberty-release-overview.pdf?dl=009:30
csatariianychoi> Don't worry. I can open both the pptx and your pdf.09:37
csatariBoth of them have the figure as an image, but in a big enough resolution.09:38
ianychoiOops.. I mis-read that you cannot read pdf -:)09:44
ianychoiBut that's fine!09:44
ildikovthat looks cool10:05
ildikovI wonder whether we could build an exercise on Project Navigator10:05
ildikovjust to get people there and let them browse, etc.10:06
ildikovor maybe the exercise could even be to find it :)10:06
ildikovianychoi: csatari ^^10:06
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csatariildikov> Like to select the components for an imaginary cloud use case?11:07
ildikovcsatari yeap, or find the components they are interested at if they know already11:09
csatariildikov> Do we add the Project Navigator part with this excercise to the Big Tent part?11:11
ildikovcsatari: we can, basically I'm just brainstorming about what exercises we could add :)11:13
ildikovcsatari: I don't want to spend too much time on this part though, so if the project navigator does not add anything to understand Big Tent, etc. then we can skip this idea11:15
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ianychoiildikov, then the exercise would be like "Design your your OpenStack environment by selecting core and optional services"?11:23
ildikovianychoi: that would show what Project Navigator is good for, but rereading it more times I'm less sure that fits into the training's scope11:26
ianychoiOkay, i see.. :)11:31
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