Tuesday, 2018-04-03

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adriantmordred: does this make sense: http://paste.openstack.org/show/718219/02:07
adriantWas trying to convey to someone what the meaning of all the domain values was02:08
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eanderssonhaving fun with the openstacksdk again07:36
eanderssonI can't get this commit to work with 0.11.x, only with 0.12.007:36
eanderssonWhich essentially means that Senlin is broken in Queens.07:37
eandersson*Senlin support in Heat07:37
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openstackgerritJude Cross proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Fix limits show command without Nova and Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/55831507:48
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adriantmrhillsman: https://github.com/gophercloud/gophercloud/issues/25209:05
adriantmrhillsman: and https://github.com/terraform-providers/terraform-provider-openstack/issues/27509:08
adriantand https://github.com/terraform-providers/terraform-provider-openstack/issues/271 has been closed because terraform will support OS_TOKEN in the next version.09:09
adriantmordred, mrhillsman: not sure who to talk to, but a spec/doc about auth methods (and envvar variables, clouds.yaml), would be really useful for people writing libraries, and we can use it as a baseline for "does this library properly support auth as expected"09:17
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openstackgerritSidharth Surana proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Do not use the next link for pagination  https://review.openstack.org/55846109:23
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adriantcmurphy: ^ you and the other keystone folks would likely be interested in such a spec and the ideal people to help write it :)09:32
adriantkmalloc as well potentially.09:32
adriantUnless we have a nice clear doc/spec/guide for library implementors already?09:33
cmurphythe best we have is probably in the keystoneauth docs, but that's not generally consumeable for all library developers09:35
cmurphysome authoritative unopinionated guide would be really useful09:36
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adriantcmurphy: ++ to something like that.10:20
dtantsuredleafe: what's the problem with previewing? won't 'tox -edocs' work for you locally?10:21
dtantsurmordred: thanks! oh, I should put openstacksdk on my review dashboard? :D10:22
adriantcmurphy: we can use keystoneauth and os-client-config as the reference implementation in such a doc, but the goal ultimately is language agnostic thing that describes the auth processes, and conventions in our official openstack projects. and mrhillsman we can potentially use that doc as the checklist as part of any process to make a library offici10:25
adriantal or one we as a community recommend.10:25
adriantdo we maybe want to start an email thread about it in openstack-dev and maybe get the right people involved to have such a thing written as part of Rocky?10:26
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cmurphyadriant: an email thread sounds like a good place to start10:35
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edleafedtantsur|brb: I get errors when I run tox -edocs locally: http://paste.openstack.org/show/718285/12:56
edleafedtantsur|brb: that's not a page I've changed.12:57
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edleafedtantsur|brb: Ah, I see it's changed in master.12:59
edleafedtantsur|brb: now it looks like it runs, but I still get this at the end: TypeError: write() argument must be str, not bytes13:00
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mrhillsmanjust seeing this adriant will read back through logs in a few13:33
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dtantsuredleafe: you must be having the same problem as me: the default python is 3, but our docs (or rather one of the deps) are not compatible with it14:00
edleafedtantsur: ick14:01
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/api-wg master: Run 'tox -edocs' with python 2 for now  https://review.openstack.org/55851914:03
dtantsuredleafe: ^^^14:03
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edleafedtantsur: ok, will review. Thanks14:05
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cdentdtantsur, edleafe: looks like yasfb hasn't worked since sep 2017: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/rss.xml maybe we just kill it?14:12
dtantsurcdent: maybe it does not publish updates for guidelines?14:13
dtantsurI'm fine with killing it, given that we anyway announce stuff on the ML14:13
cdentpresumably guideline feed would have been the entire point of having a feed?14:13
dtantsurtrue :)14:14
mordreddtantsur: yes please (to putting openstacksdk on your watch list)14:24
mordredadriant: I think a spec/doc about envvar variables and clouds.yaml is LONG overdue14:25
* dtantsur will just review EVERYTHING14:27
cdentdtantsur: dhellmann is doing a new release yasfb that ought to fix the bytes problem14:33
cdentbut we'll need to do some digging to find how to get it actually feed the guidelines14:33
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cdentdtantsur: https://github.com/sphinx-contrib/yasfb/pull/414:49
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kmallocadriant: i'm the wrong person to write an unopinionated doc (ftr), i think we should be far far far more opinionated across all of openstack.15:54
kmallocadriant: but i'll totally support and review (unbiased) such a doc if someone is writing/working on it.15:55
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edleafecdent: want to push this through quickly? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558519/16:20
cdentedleafe: it's not needed. the new release of yasfb that dhellmann and I worked out today fixes it16:21
cdentdo a tox -r -edocs and see if it works?16:21
cdent(we don't upper constraints so it ought to)16:21
edleafecdent: oh, it's already released?16:21
cdenttwo new releases today16:21
edleafeAh, that's better!16:21
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cdentit also means the guidelines will show up in the generated feeds, whereas they weren't before16:22
edleafeok, verified that it worked16:23
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adriantkmalloc: I doubt it will ever truly be unopinionated, because the way our auth works itself works is fairly opinionated, and how we use it in keystoneauth1 and how the environment values auth values are read in via os-client-config.22:17
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kmallocthat's fair, but i think we need to be way more opinionated. but that is my view22:24
adriantkmalloc: I'm ok with opinionated. In fact I kind of prefer if for something like this. If you don't follow the spec and make your library work how we expect it... then your library is wrong.22:25
adriantAuth and auth values should work the same across all the libraries/languages you use.22:25
adriantJust because I'm writing something in golang to talk to openstack doesn't suddenly change how the API interacts, or how others normally use it.22:26
cmurphyall I meant by unopinionated was "not python"22:28
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adriantcmurphy: :P22:48
openstackgerritSidharth Surana proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Do not use the next link for pagination  https://review.openstack.org/55846122:50
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openstackgerritDuc Truong proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add function examples test for clustering  https://review.openstack.org/55576223:27
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