Tuesday, 2015-11-17

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openstackgerritBrant Knudson proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Switch saml2 from lxml to built-in xml  https://review.openstack.org/24251200:08
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add release notes for 1.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/24604700:15
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dtroyer_zzstevemar_: roger that…haven't done one since we talked about it so we should be clear form here01:12
stevemar_dtroyer_zz: np, i cleared milestones for existing committed bugs, and bugs that weren't marked as released (cause of the milestone being marked), but were actually released, are now marked as released.01:20
tangchen__lhcheng_: Hi, cheng, Would you please give one more +2 to this patch ?01:21
tangchen__lhcheng_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244418/01:21
tangchen__lhcheng_: Thx. :)01:21
lhcheng_tangchen__: looking01:26
lhcheng_tangchen__: lgtm, thanks!01:27
tangchen__lhcheng_: Thx. Waiting for merging. :)01:28
tangchen__lhcheng_: BTW, I found two things in osc:01:28
tangchen__lhcheng_: 1. The network part (neutron) is weak. Almost not implemented.01:29
tangchen__lhcheng_: 2. There is no part for baremetal (ironic).01:29
tangchen__lhcheng_: We are planing to add ironic and neutron support to osc. Is that OK, or have you guys had a plan that my team and I could take part in ?01:30
lhcheng_tangchen__: for ironic, it would be implemented as plugin01:31
lhcheng_tangchen__: the code would go into ironic-client01:31
lhcheng_it would go somewhere here: https://github.com/openstack/python-ironicclient/tree/master/ironicclient/osc01:31
lhcheng_osc will be able to discover the entry point from ironic-client, and load it as additional commands01:32
lhcheng_cool right? :)01:32
lhcheng_for baremetal, there are couple of patches to expose other commands already up for reviews01:34
lhcheng_tangchen__: for the neutron part, I believe we definitely need help on that.01:36
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lhcheng_but I think we're waiting for some work in sdk for that..01:36
lhcheng_tangchen__: see note#5 in : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-osc-session01:36
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tangchen__lhcheng_: Is note#5 the work implementing neutron commands in osc ?01:39
tangchen__lhcheng_: And when you guys say sdk, what exactly does it mean ?  osc, or osc + some other library ?01:40
lhcheng_I think it means waiting for sdk command before implementing in osc..01:40
lhcheng_tangchen__: other library https://github.com/openstack/python-openstacksdk01:41
tangchen__lhcheng_: OK.  :)01:42
tangchen__lhcheng_: BTW, seeing from me, I think in osc, we are doing some duplicated work to the other clients.01:42
lhcheng_tangchen__: you might want to check with dtroyer_zz to confirm. :) I am basing my answers based on the notes..01:42
tangchen__lhcheng_: Would you please share some future development plan with me ?01:43
lhcheng_tangchen__: I recommend checking the notes here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Mitaka/Etherpads#OpenStackClient01:46
lhcheng_the move to use keystoneauth is definitely on the radar01:47
lhcheng_and cleanup of interaction between OSC, os-client-config and keystoneauth01:48
tangchen__lhcheng_: Well, keystoneauth is for authentication, right ?  Do you mean use it in osc instead of implementing keystone commands ?01:52
lhcheng_tangchen__: keystone command and authentication used to be all in python-keystoneclient01:53
lhcheng_keystoneauth was created to be able to create a library that has minimal depedency, that deals with authentication01:53
lhcheng_some code from python-keystoneclient was copied over..01:54
lhcheng_osc needs some cleanup to refer to the authentication code from keystoneauth instead of python-keystoneclient01:55
tangchen__lhcheng_: OK. Let me read the url you gave me. :)   Just sometimes, when I try to find out a way to contribute, I don't know what the direction is among all these clients. :)01:58
tangchen__lhcheng_: Thanks. :)01:58
lhcheng_tangchen__: you're welcome :)02:03
lhcheng_tangchen__: and thanks for contributing to OSC :)02:03
tangchen__lhcheng_: One more question. You just said, about ironic, we are implementing something like a plugin in ironicclient. I think it is an interface for osc to call ironicclient commands so that we don't need to implement the same things in osc again, am I right ?02:15
lhcheng_you are right, we don't to do it anymore in osc02:16
lhcheng_tangchen__: there are other projects that is doing it as well.02:17
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tangchen__lhcheng_: Thx. But I'm still a little confused. I'm also doing nova development. And seeing from the url, novaclient is not doing this plugin. Maybe doing a plugin in novaclient is a good idea. But does that mean we don't need to improve the compute part is osc anymore ?02:23
tangchen__lhcheng_: is --> in02:23
tangchen__lhcheng_: The reason I ask about nova is that I'm working on some patches to improve compute part in osc, including adding new commands and improving the existing ones.02:25
tangchen__lhcheng_: If I'm going to the wrong direction, please do let me know.02:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Enable "openstack server unlock" command to take multiple servers.  https://review.openstack.org/24441802:26
lhcheng_nova commands will be in osc itself, I think the convention would be the core projects would be in osc repo02:27
lhcheng_while the other projects have to add their osc commands as plugins02:28
lhcheng_tangchen__: the work you're doing on nova is right direction02:28
tangchen__lhcheng_: Thanks for clarifying. BTW, what projects are the core projects ?  Nova, Neutron, and ?02:29
tangchen__lhcheng_: But isn't ironic a core project ?02:30
lhcheng_tangchen__: I don't think so, it is not required to run minimum openstack02:34
* lhcheng_ looking for the link of core projects02:34
stevemar_lhcheng_: tangchen__ core: http://cdn.vmturbo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/big-tent.png02:35
lhcheng_stevemar_: thanks!02:35
tangchen__lhcheng_: OK, I see. And about the sdk, network part in osc is waiting for some work in sdk, by this, do you mean osc wants to use something from sdk, but not implement the network commands directly in osc, just like compute part, right ?02:36
stevemar_tangchen__: so those 6 projects we (osc) will provide code for02:36
tangchen__stevemar_: Thanks for the info.02:37
stevemar_tangchen__: we want to use the sdk to make the REST call for neutron02:37
stevemar_we should probably just start using the sdk for the neutron stuff02:43
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tangchen__stevemar_, lhcheng_: OK, I see. Thank you for your time answering me so many questions. :)02:51
stevemar_tangchen__: np, thanks for the patches and hard work02:52
stevemar_we're here to answer questions :)02:52
tangchen__stevemar_, lhcheng_: THx. :)02:53
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lhcheng_tangchen__: any time:)03:14
lhcheng_stevemar_: should we add the reno stuff too for OSC?03:15
lhcheng_I can submit the patch for that..03:15
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openstackgerritLin Hua Cheng proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Address hacking check H405  https://review.openstack.org/24388903:19
stevemar_lhcheng_: i don't think reno is necessary for the libraries03:21
lhcheng_ookay.. yeah, it might be an overkill03:21
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openstackgerritXi Yang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Use Block Storage instead of Volume  https://review.openstack.org/24284305:57
openstackgerritXi Yang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Change 'Object Store' to 'Object Storage'  https://review.openstack.org/24496706:08
openstackgerritXi Yang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Change 'Object Store' to 'Object Storage'  https://review.openstack.org/24496706:11
openstackgerritXi Yang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Use is_public to set access of volume type  https://review.openstack.org/24285506:22
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openstackgerritXi Yang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Use Block Storage instead of Volume  https://review.openstack.org/24284307:40
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add limit option for the "openstack image list"  https://review.openstack.org/24630110:23
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openstackgerritNiall Bunting proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add --volume to Image `create`  https://review.openstack.org/22851211:56
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etoewsannegentle: can you please point me in the direction that we could publish the sdk docs to developer.openstack.org? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/147997714:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1479977 in OpenStack SDK "Get sdk docs on http://developer.openstack.org/python-openstacksdk/" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews)14:29
annegentleetoews: oh, sure. I'll find a patch that sets up publish jobs14:30
annegentleetoews: that you can use as an example14:30
annegentleok etoews this one publishes to rtd: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245232/14:33
annegentleetoews: and this one was for the Compute API Guide https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231000/14:34
annegentleetoews: and is to developer.openstack.org14:35
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etoewsannegentle: is creating that patch set how you also tested all of that config?14:41
etoewsmeaning, creating the patch set published things to places and you checked to see that the appropriate things were in the appropriate places?14:41
etoewsbriancurtin: can you set this to milestone 1.0? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/147997714:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1479977 in OpenStack SDK "Get sdk docs on http://developer.openstack.org/python-openstacksdk/" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews)14:42
etoewswe're going to want to have the docs in their final resting place before going 1.0 and making announcements and linking people to stuff.14:43
annegentleetoews: you'd have to set up all of project-config to pre-test. I let the gate test for me.14:45
annegentleetoews: I mean, I have seen it done locally, but sheesh.14:45
annegentleetoews: and one thing to note, this is specific to developer.openstack.org. For docs.openstack.org, we say, "you must be in openstack governance to publish to docs.openstack.org"14:46
annegentleetoews: hence the "how to publish to rtd" as a usual :)14:46
annegentlehad to think about that for a min14:46
etoewsannegentle: are you saying that because the sdk isn't in https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml we can't publish to dev.o.o?14:48
annegentleetoews: nope. Saying if you were a service you couldn't publish to docs.o.o14:49
annegentleetoews: but I will also be on the ready to let people know that position14:49
etoewsokay. but all clear to publish to dev.o.o?14:50
annegentleetoews: if there are any questions14:50
annegentleetoews: yep.14:50
etoewscool. many thanks. i'm sure i will have follow up questions. :)14:50
annegentleetoews: sure!14:52
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add owner validation for "openstack image set"  https://review.openstack.org/24645915:55
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add owner validation for "openstack image set"  https://review.openstack.org/24645917:01
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Shrewsmordred: i'm conflicted on https://review.openstack.org/245439 for OCC17:21
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Shrewsmordred: it feels to me like a new variable to control only shade behavior and may not necessary translate for anywhere else17:22
Shrewsmordred: i could see us adding an option to the ansible modules for it, though17:23
mordredShrews: hrm. that's a good point17:23
mordredShrews: EXCEPT - it's the ansible inventory that's the real problem17:24
mordredShrews: and that only has occ for config17:24
Shrewslemme do the lunch thing and ponder over it17:24
mordredlunch solves all things17:25
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briancurtinsdk meeting in #openstack-meeting-3 in 10 minutes18:49
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Shrewsmordred: so, i have an idea19:28
Shrewsmordred: what if we had a client-specific options section (client_opts, or similar), and when client config is invoked, it could pass along a client section name to get access to19:29
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Shrewsmordred: config = occ.OpenStackConfig(client='shade')19:31
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Shrewsthen config.client_opts would be populated with whatever 'client_opts.shade' had19:31
* Shrews waves hands19:31
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Shrewsugh, ansible modules aren't the ones invoking the config though19:33
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openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: Keystone auth integration  https://review.openstack.org/18614019:55
terrylhowe^ briancurtin etoews19:55
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mordredShrews: yah. the ansible user would be maybe confused by that :(20:07
Shrewsmordred: i was thinking maybe shade itself could just look for it... playing around with it now20:08
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack/os-client-config: POC: Testing client specific options  https://review.openstack.org/24658720:19
Shrewsmordred: ^^^  and https://review.openstack.org/24658820:20
Shrewsjust tossing a potentially bad idea out there for discussion20:20
mordredShrews: oh - you know - that way ansible-inventory could say client='ansible'20:21
Shrewswell, that way, ansible doesn't need to do anything20:22
Shrewsjust needs an updated clouds.yaml and the version of shade/occ that understands all that20:22
Shrewswas trying to avoid any module updating20:23
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ntataterrylhowe, I'm trying to understand what 'openstack configuration list' would look like relative to 'openstack configuration show' per https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/147940021:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1479400 in python-openstackclient "Add configuration list command" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Nandini (nandini-tata)21:23
stevemar_terrylhowe: poke poke poke21:25
stevemar_terrylhowe: ntata is volunteering for stuff!21:25
terrylhoweI’ll put some comments in the ticke stevemar_ ntata21:28
ntatastevemar_, ha-ha! learning all along21:28
ntataterrylhowe, that will help. thank you!21:29
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dolphmstevemar_: ntata_: joined, belatedly21:40
stevemar_dolphm: typical21:40
dolphmstevemar_: =)21:43
stevemar_dolphm: review those liberty patches! :)21:43
stevemar_dolphm: and do shadow users21:43
stevemar_do all the things!21:44
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dolphmstevemar_: is openstackclient aware of clouds.yaml ? i thought that dependency was in the other direction21:53
stevemar_dolphm: i do believe it is sir21:54
stevemar_dolphm: you can use it for any command21:54
stevemar_dolphm: http://inaugust.com/posts/multi-cloud-with-python-openstackclient.html21:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Add release notes for 1.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/24604721:56
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dolphmstevemar_: oooh i get the bug. was thinking about this all backwards, thanks21:57
stevemar_dolphm: np (another poke about reviewing stable/liberty)21:57
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