Thursday, 2015-04-30

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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add flag to trigger task interface for rackspace
mordreddtroyer: ^^ discovered something about rackspace that we need to switch on differently than just v1/v200:31
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config: Add flag to trigger task interface for rackspace
mordreddtroyer: I'd like to get that landed and released - it should be a no-op for anyone else00:32
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mordredSpamapS: welcome to the jungle. I hear that we may have fun and possbly games00:34
SpamapSIf you have everything I want, you better be ready to play00:35
* SpamapS is now yearning for karaoke00:35
mordredSpamapS: ++00:35
mordredSpamapS: oh - I found the most amazing place in NYC for when you visit00:35
mordredSpamapS: korean-style private room karaoke in mid-town00:36
SpamapSI feel a meeting coming on00:37
mordredSpamapS: well, you are east-coast-clint's mentor00:38
SpamapSAlso I lurve korean style private room BYOB karaoke as an 11:00pm destination where you just take the good people. :)00:38
SpamapSgood as in the people, not the singing. :)00:38
SpamapSthe singing must be awful00:38
mordredSpamapS: I may have done Frozen last tie00:48
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dtroyermordred: +A01:49
mordreddtroyer: thanks!01:49
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dtroyerare you going to do the release or do you want me to?  either way is fine01:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-client-config: Add flag to trigger task interface for rackspace
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Qiming_hi, want to set openstacksdk>=0.4.1 in our requirements file, but conflicts found with global requirements which demands openstacksdk>=0.2.102:30
Qiming_so ... what is the protocol to bump the version? Is it okay just to raise a request at global-requirements project?02:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Add parent field to project creation
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Rework shell tests
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openstackgerritLin Yang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix tiny typo in comment message
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stevemardtroyer, congrats :)14:13
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dtroyeron… oh!  thanks  I was up late last night, doing stevemar hours…just saw the results14:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix tiny typo in comment message
bknudsondtroyer: how does it feel to be a tc?14:41
dtroyerbknudson: not too different from being unemployed, which is also over now too14:42
stevemarbknudson, i imagine it must feel like an elected official -- dtroyer where's your mayoral sash?14:45
dtroyerno sash!  I'm not mayor.  Unless it comes with the whole Mayor McCheese getup…14:46
bknudsonyou get to do ribbon cuttings14:46
bknudsondo you get to +3?14:47
dtroyerno, but I do get to break out Termie's 'F-It, LGTM' stamp.14:48
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terrylhowegrats dtroyer !14:53
stevemarone day i hope my dreams of breaking out termies stamp will come true14:53
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stevemaruntil then, i have my own stamp14:53
dtroyerI think I'm going to stamp the back of my new laptop - although I should probably censor it for the summit14:58
dtroyerterrylhowe: thanks14:59
stevemardtroyer, maybe opt for a sticker instead?15:11
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terrylhowe Jamie was asking about that last week or something, early morning for him now I think15:59
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openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed stackforge/python-openstacksdk: Proxy update method
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Create 1.2.0 release notes
openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Create 1.2.0 release notes
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openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Use format options for functional tests
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stevemardtroyer, if you keep backing up go, eventually you will write everything with go18:28
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sigmavirus24stevemar: how do you write software with a board game?18:28
sigmavirus24especially one that doesn't have a way to resolve dependencies?18:28
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stevemarthat actually made me laugh18:28
dtroyersigmavirus24: so just like now?18:29
dtroyerno dep solver…  go just moves it from install/run-time to build-time18:30
* sigmavirus24 knows18:30
* sigmavirus24 made that joke intentionally18:31
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* dtroyer can't resist repeating the line o' the day18:31
sigmavirus24which line is that?18:32
dtroyerthe go vs python dep problem…18:32
bknudsonis go statically linked?18:41
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dtroyerbknudson: yes18:49
dtroyerno shared libs or anything beyond glibc (on Linux)18:49
bknudsonthat would definitely remove a lot of problems.18:50
dtroyerI know, right?18:50
bknudsoncomes with other issues such as having to rebuild / patch the world for a security vulnerability. e.g., if openssl is statically linked.18:51
dtroyerso I've been thinking about that… I want to total up the times that would have been necessary for some recent history, like 1-2 years.18:52
dtroyervs how much time we spend fighting dep hell now.  of course distro packages solve that for a large class of users, but I still have my client hat on here18:52
sigmavirus24this discussion thoroughly amuses me18:53
dtroyerand a shiny new Windows 8.1 laptop on my desk.  installing OSC on it will be trivial in Cygwin, and painful everywhere else18:53
sigmavirus24especially given the hellfire I came under for defending half-heartedly Kenneth's decision to vendor requests' dependencies18:53
dtroyersigmavirus24: frankly I like that he did that18:54
dtroyerwhat lesson has real-world Java deployments taught us?18:54
sigmavirus24don't use java18:54
* sigmavirus24 is really punchy today. sorry18:54
dtroyerheh, besides that …  big apps even come with an entire JRE18:54
dtroyerthat's basically what OSC on Windows has to do to get the install to a sane point18:56
sigmavirus24dtroyer: have you looked at PEX?19:01
dtroyerdhellmann pointed me at it the other day, looks promising if it handles setuptools entry points19:02
sigmavirus24I don't know if that's something anyone's ever used it with19:02
dtroyerall of the other tools like that (py2exe and friends) don't do it at all19:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Create 1.2.0 release notes
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openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add support for keypair functional tests
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sigmavirus24dtroyer: question when you have a second22:18
dtroyersigmavirus24: goferit22:18
sigmavirus24Have you tried packaging osc as a zip executable (using python's zipfile support)?22:19
sigmavirus24That's really all PEX is + dep bundling iirc22:19
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dtroyerThat's what I asked Ddoug about the other day, I just found it that it exists.  that's when he pointed me to pex22:20
sigmavirus24So I think it'll allow you to use entry-points without needing to consider deps, but I'm not 100% certain the zip file support includes supporting entry-points22:20
sigmavirus24ah okay22:20
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sigmavirus24nevermind then22:20
* sigmavirus24 expected you to have more experience with that for some reason22:21
dtroyerI spent a couple of weeks a while back trying to package OSC in py2exe and (can't remember which) at least two others.  Some looked really good, and worked fine without the entry points.  That's the killer here.22:22
dtroyerit seems like it should be a solvable problem, at least for a certain subset of use cases22:23
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openstackgerritAmey Bhide proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Minor fix to openstack image show command

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