Tuesday, 2015-04-28

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thrashare default positional params frowned upon for an osc plugin?12:21
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate is experiencing epic failures due to issues with mirrors, work is underway to mitigate and return to normal levels of sanity12:42
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d0ugaldtroyer: do you happen to have an answer for thrash's question?13:39
thrashor dhellmann13:39
dtroyerd0ugal: IMNSHO yes, but plugins are going to do what they are going to do.13:40
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dtroyerThe Value-Add for OSC is its consistency, and if things are not consistent then we lose that13:40
dtroyerSo this is one area I have strong opinions and need solid reasons to change them.13:42
dtroyerAll that said, plugins aren't in the OSC repo and everything is really just suggestions for them.  It is up to the plugin folk in the ned13:42
d0ugaldtroyer: okay, thanks - we just needed some guidance on deciding for our plugin13:43
d0ugalTrying to be as consistent as we can, but fielding complaints about verbose commands :)13:43
d0ugalbut I'm starting to thin we are a bit of a weird edge case and don't fit OSC all that well.13:44
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dtroyersure, np.  It is verbose, and that was also a design choice in favor of clarity over my unix-like need to save keystrokes13:44
d0ugalYeah, I don't mind it13:44
dtroyerone thing I have thought about, and maybe this fits you guys, is if OSC might also want to have a full shell plugin, ie, a plugin gets its own binary but still leverages everything else.  so you'd have a command without the other plugins and the entire object name space to yourself13:46
d0ugaldtroyer: We actually stepped back from that in the end, we now include all the normal plugins etc.13:49
d0ugalTurns out that was partly confusion on our end - so we are slightly more normal users.13:50
d0ugalThe weird thing is that most of our commands are about combining multiple services used in tripleo. Whereas I get the feeling OSC plugins are intended to be for individual services.13:50
dtroyerThe original ones were, but tried to hide the fact that they were from individual services. It should look like a single cloud to users.  There hasn't been a lot of need to combine them, but the quota and limits commands do exactly that13:52
d0ugalah, maybe I should take a look at those13:52
dtroyerso far the biggest cross-over is doing id -> name lookups.  The other place we'll see more of that is in making the networking commands silently switch between nova and neutron13:54
dtroyerit should be easy to do, we just haven't done much.  sounds like you're out in front on that one13:55
d0ugaldtroyer: The weirdest bit that we have is a random v1 that doesn't mean anything because we couldn't figure out how to have a plugin without a version13:58
d0ugalIt looks like the quota command doesn't have a version tho' - /me reads14:00
dtroyeryou really don't need the version in the names.  I did them everywhere as a future-proof thing that was cheap in the beginning but that was really all.14:05
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to clear an issue with its event stream. any change events between 14:43-15:30 utc should be rechecked or have their approval votes reapplied to trigger jobs15:37
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openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed stackforge/python-openstacksdk: Common list method for proxies  https://review.openstack.org/17830217:31
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openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed stackforge/python-openstacksdk: Proxy get method  https://review.openstack.org/16435117:50
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briancurtinsdk meeting in ~12 minutes in #openstack-meeting-3 -- i know we're down a few people today so it may be quick, but would like to talk about get/list/find - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2015-04-28_1900_UTC18:48
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/python-openstacksdk: Move jenkins create and delete in their onw files  https://review.openstack.org/17693918:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Raise exception if no session is created  https://review.openstack.org/17765218:53
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Redo 1.1.0 release notes  https://review.openstack.org/17797621:51
openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Create 1.2.0 release notes  https://review.openstack.org/17797721:51
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Minor logging/debug cleanups  https://review.openstack.org/17845023:16
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