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| evrardjp | Well I think it might be good to either remove it from governance, or try a PTL-less experience. | 06:43 |
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| evrardjp | or a SIG | 06:44 |
| evrardjp | SIG doesn't prevent owning repos. | 06:44 |
| evrardjp | I thought packaging SIG would be interesting, and might be grouped with debian packaging too | 06:44 |
| evrardjp | you could have many chairs you like | 06:45 |
| evrardjp | it's up to you all :) | 06:45 |
| evrardjp | not willing to push, just giving you options | 06:45 |
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| jpena | dirk evrardjp: I think the SIG option would be a good idea | 08:30 |
| evrardjp | there are things to settle in this case | 08:31 |
| evrardjp | but nothing to big | 08:31 |
| evrardjp | though I am wondering if it's owrth it, given the turn at SUSE, and maybe the possible future lack of involvment | 08:32 |
| jpena | hm, that's a risk yes | 08:32 |
| evrardjp | I don't want people to work/burn out on something they know will not last | 08:32 |
| evrardjp | it's counter productive | 08:32 |
| evrardjp | I am merely asking what do you feel is best | 08:33 |
| evrardjp | we could think of phasing out at next release for example | 08:36 |
| evrardjp | I don't know! I am talking out loud, but I have the impression I am alone doing this exercise :p | 08:36 |
| jpena | I'd like to get dirk's opinion on this. From the RDO side, I've been alone for a couple releases already | 08:37 |
| jpena | so depending on SUSE's preferences, a SIG might be a good idea (if we keep some inter-distro cooperation), or if there is no collaboration to do, phasing out is also an option | 08:38 |
| evrardjp | sounds good | 08:53 |
| toabctl | I would just continue as we do currently. just without PTL. but I'm not familiar with the governance models we need to use to be OpenStack "compatible".. | 09:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: horizon: Add pytest as BuildRequires https://review.opendev.org/721553 | 09:03 |
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| KeithMnemonic | Can I please get some reviews on https://review.opendev.org/720308 | 13:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging stable/rocky: Apply some upstream rocky patches that passed CI https://review.opendev.org/720308 | 14:08 |
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| dirk | evrardjp: can you please explain to me in simple terms what the difference between SIG and a ptl less governed project is? | 22:11 |
| dirk | I am not able to google the definition of a SIG really | 22:12 |
| dirk | Also I am not able to understand the difference between PTL less and sig really | 22:15 |
| dirk | Hah, I am repeating myself. Ok, good indication that I should opt for sleep instead | 22:17 |
| dirk | jpena: the situation at suse is that there's not gonna be more involvement than right now going forward. However there are some good reasons for just keeping what we have right now working because suse actually relies on that right now. | 22:18 |
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