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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/641568 | 06:25 |
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| efried | prometheanfire: there's a kafuffle in os-brick. Can provide background, but tldr I think we need to blacklist 2.8.0, which happens to be the current upper constraint. There's going to be a ffe request to release a subsequent version once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642852/ lands. | 14:40 |
| efried | Mechanically, how should that work? Can we propose a requirements patch to reduce the upper-constraint and blacklist 2.8.0; and then the bot will take care of bumping the upper-constraint when the new release is published? | 14:40 |
| efried | Or do we wait until the new release is proposed and then just land a requirements patch to blacklist 2.8.0? | 14:40 |
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| efried | o/ jungleboyj. Is there anyone else we should tag on this? smcginnis ? | 14:49 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah and hema as he is the one that had the biggest concerns here. | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/requirements master: Blacklist os-brick 2.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/643065 | 14:54 |
| efried | prometheanfire, jungleboyj, smcginnis: I proposed the first of those options ^ | 14:54 |
| efried | can update it to do the second thing once the new release is out if that's what we decide. | 14:54 |
| jungleboyj | efried: That makes sense to me. | 14:56 |
| jungleboyj | The rename patch merged on 2/26 so the previous versions of os-brick are fine. So it should be just 2.8.0 that should be blacklisted. | 14:58 |
| efried | yup. I just don't know if reducing an upper-constraint is a done thing. If it'll work at all; if it'll freak out the bot that's supposed to bump it after the new release comes out; etc. | 15:00 |
| jungleboyj | Guess we will see what the experts say. | 15:01 |
| prometheanfire | jungleboyj: didn't you say that 2.8.1 would be ffe'd soon? | 15:03 |
| prometheanfire | reducing UC is the right thing, if there is not a new release | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | 2.8.1 should hopefully be FFE'd later today or tomorrow. | 15:04 |
| prometheanfire | it'd be better to do that sooner and make this patch (which also needs an FFE) simpler | 15:05 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. We will work on getting the version bump proposed today. | 15:07 |
| prometheanfire | cool, then the current patch can depend on the version bump patch | 15:07 |
| prometheanfire | 2.8.0 isn't breaking anything now is it? | 15:07 |
| jungleboyj | Sounds good. | 15:07 |
| efried | not yet :) | 15:07 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 15:09 |
| * jungleboyj feels bad we have made this mess. | 15:10 | |
| prometheanfire | heh, it's not sooo bad | 15:14 |
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| prometheanfire | #startmeeting requirements | 20:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 13 20:31:25 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 20:31 |
| prometheanfire | #topic rollcall | 20:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:31 | |
| prometheanfire | pin tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis, dhellmann | 20:31 |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 20:32 |
| dirk | o/ | 20:32 |
| prometheanfire | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 20:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Any controversies in the Queue? (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:33 | |
| prometheanfire | os-brick should be requesting an ffe today (hopefully) ping jungleboyj | 20:34 |
| prometheanfire | https://review.openstack.org/642802 and https://review.openstack.org/642827 seem fine now, though abhi89 is still pushing for upper-constraints changes (which have been denied) | 20:35 |
| prometheanfire | anyone have anything else? | 20:35 |
| dirk | yeah, requests is the main onr for me | 20:35 |
| prometheanfire | dirk: the gr exclusion or the uc bump (or both/neither/etc)? | 20:36 |
| dirk | Both | 20:36 |
| prometheanfire | you want them both merged? | 20:37 |
| dirk | I kinda like the idea of maintaining uc regarding security fixes | 20:37 |
| dirk | In general | 20:37 |
| dirk | In this case I don't know if it's risky or not | 20:37 |
| prometheanfire | I feel like that will just mean we constantly update everything | 20:37 |
| tonyb | My worry is that it's such and big jump and we know at least one version broke things | 20:37 |
| prometheanfire | I commented in one of the UC patches that it was a HUGE change | 20:38 |
| tonyb | it's hard to work out exactly the interactions between cinder and requests in that simple case let alone the rest of openstack | 20:38 |
| prometheanfire | it was better for rocky, but past that not so much | 20:38 |
| tonyb | (sorry I'm late, stupid laptop crash :() | 20:38 |
| tonyb | Yeah | 20:38 |
| tonyb | rocky was preety simple | 20:38 |
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| prometheanfire | dirk: have you been able to review the bugs/mail list discussion about it? | 20:40 |
| dirk | Nope, sorry | 20:40 |
| jungleboyj | Still waiting for one last patch to merge. Expect it yet tonight. | 20:40 |
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| prometheanfire | jungleboyj: kk | 20:41 |
| prometheanfire | jungleboyj: I'd ping smcginnis just so he's aware | 20:41 |
| jungleboyj | prometheanfire: He is aware. | 20:41 |
| prometheanfire | ok | 20:41 |
| prometheanfire | anything else? | 20:41 |
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| jungleboyj | He got caught up earlier. | 20:41 |
| prometheanfire | #topic summit/ptg | 20:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit/ptg (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:42 | |
| prometheanfire | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-requirements-topics | 20:42 |
| prometheanfire | I'll be able to attend the PTG portion (thanks to the foundation) | 20:43 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 20:43 |
| tonyb | I don't think there is a lot to discuss on those topics yet | 20:43 |
| prometheanfire | yep, agreed | 20:44 |
| prometheanfire | #topic open floor | 20:44 |
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| * tonyb doesn't know if the forum session is accepted | 20:44 | |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: how goes the link generation? | 20:44 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: links are in | 20:44 |
| tonyb | I just need to start the discussion on how to use them correctly | 20:44 |
| tonyb | but we *can* do the stable branches now | 20:44 |
| prometheanfire | oh, so it is :D | 20:44 |
| tonyb | ... but I'd like to warn the community befoer submitting elevnty-billion patches | 20:45 |
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| * tonyb is working on getting 'train' there too | 20:45 | |
| tonyb | that was a little more compex but I hope to have it there for RC1 | 20:45 |
| prometheanfire | lol, ya, waiting til after the summit seems fine, not to overwhelm people | 20:46 |
| prometheanfire | oh, even better | 20:46 |
| tonyb | and it doesn't really block us | 20:46 |
| prometheanfire | true | 20:46 |
| prometheanfire | anything else? will close in a min if not | 20:47 |
| tonyb | not from me | 20:47 |
| prometheanfire | #endmeeting | 20:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Requirements - IRC meetngs on Wednesdays @ 07:00 UTC in here in #openstack-requirements - See agenda @ http://tinyurl.com/h44ryuw - IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://tinyurl.com/j38rk24" | 20:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 13 20:50:47 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2019/requirements.2019-03-13-20.31.html | 20:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2019/requirements.2019-03-13-20.31.txt | 20:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2019/requirements.2019-03-13-20.31.log.html | 20:50 |
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| dhellmann | tonyb , prometheanfire : we could update the script that creates stable branches to point to the new URLs instead of pointing to the branch (it already modifies the tox.ini file). We don't really have to ever update master, right? | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | and we could just leave the old stable branches as they are | 21:11 |
| tonyb[m] | dhellmann: that's all true | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | you know where that script is, right? I'd have to dig around for the path because it's in a weird place in project-config and I can never remember | 21:12 |
| tonyb[m] | dhellmann: I kinda thought we *could* make do it all on master which would mean we can land a server Patch and fix that niggle at the same time | 21:13 |
| tonyb[m] | Yeah I know the script | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | we could do it that way, but if we start by just fixing the new stein branches as they are created then it's not a zillion patches to land before we branch | 21:14 |
| tonyb[m] | We (the realease team) will still need to do something it's just a question of what | 21:14 |
| tonyb[m] | True | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | and then you could script the updates on master at your leisure over the course of train | 21:14 |
| tonyb[m] | Absolutely | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | although, now that I think of it, you can't really get away from making the change at the branching point | 21:15 |
| tonyb[m] | The thing I wanted before RC1 is a train redirection which we don't have yet | 21:15 |
| tonyb[m] | Correct we need to update something at the branch point | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | you either have to manually submit a zillion patches every cycle with $current-name in them or you let the script do it for the branch with $new-branch-name in them | 21:15 |
| tonyb[m] | Yup | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | so if master just always points to master, and the bot proposes the scripts when you branch, then everything should be fine | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | *proposes the updates | 21:16 |
| tonyb[m] | Yup | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | branching the requirements repo triggers the redirect update, so there's a small window where there's a chance the redirects will build faster than the branch happens, but I think we can live with that as long as everyone remembers its here | 21:17 |
| tonyb[m] | And that's what I think we'll do now but I wanted to discuss the options | 21:17 |
| * dhellmann nods | 21:17 | |
| dhellmann | every time this comes up I have to think through the logic again | 21:18 |
| tonyb[m] | Yeah it's way more subtle than I'd like | 21:22 |
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