Wednesday, 2017-11-22

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/52123406:25
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dirkprometheanfire: meeting?07:01
prometheanfireis it now? I need to check the repo and update the docs07:07
prometheanfiretonyb: around?07:07
dirkI think it would be now07:12
prometheanfireI think its about right07:18
prometheanfireyep07:19
prometheanfirehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/517459/2..3/meetings/requirements-team.yaml07:19
prometheanfire#startmeeting requirements07:20
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov 22 07:20:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:20
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.07:20
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)"07:20
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'requirements'07:20
prometheanfireping tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis07:20
prometheanfire#topic roll-call07:20
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prometheanfireo/07:20
tonybOh today? man I'm confused07:21
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prometheanfiretonyb: yep, todays wednesday right?07:22
dirko/07:22
tonybprometheanfire: Yeah somehow I had it in my head that we moved to Thursday I don't knwo why07:23
dirkExcept for prometheanfire , I think he's still on Tuesday?07:23
prometheanfirenah, 1:23 am here07:23
prometheanfireok07:24
prometheanfire#topic Any controversies in the Queue?07:24
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prometheanfireI don't think so07:24
dirkAny comments on the lower-constraints stuff?07:24
prometheanfiredirk is doing good work on the zuul stuff still :D07:24
dirkI think i screwed up the last revision but before it was passing07:25
dirkI would like to add a devstack run now against LC07:25
tonybdirk: I haven't looked yet :(07:25
prometheanfiretonyb: we need your depsolver as well :p07:25
dirktonyb: another, unrelated one for you: https://review.openstack.org/51844807:26
dirkSee referenced bug report07:26
tonybprometheanfire: It is true, It's on my todo list (to clean it up) but it wont happen this month07:27
prometheanfirebut as far as the lower-constraints stuff, looks ok07:27
dirkI haven't tested that change myself yet07:27
prometheanfiretonyb: christmas present then :D07:27
tonybprometheanfire: :)07:27
tonybdirk: okay I'll look at that.  I confess I'm confused why this is a problem now, IIRC it only came up with $project was only half doign requirements management07:27
dirktonyb: it might be a Problem for some longer time already07:28
dirkIt's just that a coworker now discovered it, but Am almost sure it was lurking for a while07:29
dirkOne thing I noticed is that we don't add constraints for py3607:29
prometheanfirewe don't test it either iirc07:30
tonybdirk: but doesn't pulling stuff from git violate the main idea of requirements?07:30
prometheanfiretonyb: even if it's a sha?07:30
dirktonyb: ceilosca is weird07:30
tonybIt can't be, deterministicly, coinstallable if it's from git07:30
dirktonyb: it's basically a patch on top of ceilometer07:31
tonybprometheanfire: but that isn't representable in u-c07:31
dirkIt's not using it as a python2 module07:31
prometheanfirehmm07:31
tonybdirk: but how is in fundamentally different from neurton or horizon?07:31
prometheanfiretonyb: in that case ya...07:31
dirktonyb: they don't hardcode the Sha maybe?07:32
dirkI need to look at it in more detail. That patch was only the first shot after a few min07:32
prometheanfirepip install git+git://github.com/aladagemre/django-notification.git@2927346f4c513a217ac8ad076e494dd1adbf70e107:32
dirkI was hoping someone else would test it07:32
prometheanfirenot sure about reqs.txt07:33
tonybprometheanfire: nope, https://github.com/openstack/monasca-ceilometer/blob/master/test-requirements.txt#L207:33
prometheanfirewell, they are not pointing to a sha07:34
prometheanfirethat should be rejected07:34
tonybdirk: my issue is that with your chnage we then will allow nova to add git+hhtps://some.random.server/aweome/lib07:34
tonyband we'll never see it as a problem07:34
tonybWhat they're doign is fine for them but they're not managed so they shoud just switch the job to non-voting07:35
prometheanfireya, without enforcement of at least a sha (tags could be redefined) I don't like it07:36
tonyb*if* ceilometer were on pypi we could just list it which is a thing we're trying to get to but there are challenges07:36
dirktonyb: good point07:36
tonybso I guess pause to reflect and discuss again next week?07:39
dirk+107:39
prometheanfireya, I changed my vote for now, but sounds good07:39
dirkI think won't fix might be the right answer07:39
prometheanfire# other items (closed discussion)?07:40
prometheanfire#topic other items (closed discussion)?07:40
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prometheanfireif nothing else I think it's time for open discussion07:41
tonyb+107:42
dirkI have no other times07:42
prometheanfire#topic open discussion07:43
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prometheanfirefor a min then close07:43
dirkother than I might be adding a tw py36 job (non-voting) at some point in the future07:43
dirkwhen infra merges the depending patchsets07:43
tonybdirk: cool07:43
dirkthis way we can run a bit against python 3.6 and find new problems07:43
tonybdirk: If you do that you'll need to massgae u-c to include py3.607:43
dirktonyb: yeah, was looking at that07:44
prometheanfirethat sounds fine, my main question is what OS?07:44
tonybotherwise u-c will ignore you and you'll get $latest versions for stuff07:44
dirkOpensuse07:44
prometheanfireis 18.04 defaulting to it?07:44
tonybtw == tumbleweed07:44
prometheanfirethat works too :D07:44
tonybprometheanfire: Yeah we'll get it then alos07:44
prometheanfireah, thought they were sticking with 3.507:44
dirkI am not sure, but it seems likely that Ubuntu updates to that version as well07:44
prometheanfirenice to hear, 3.6 is awesome07:44
dirkYep, first one that is actually faster than py27 ;-)07:45
prometheanfirelol07:45
prometheanfirejust use pypy07:45
prometheanfire#endmeeting07:46
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Nov 22 07:46:03 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)07:46
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-11-22-07.20.log.html07:46
tonybfor the record : https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/python3-all07:46
tonyb3.607:46
* tonyb => dinner07:47
prometheanfirenn07:47
prometheanfireprobably going to sleep07:47
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for whereto to new release 0.4.0  https://review.openstack.org/52223313:05
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for os-win to new release 2.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/52223713:13
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/requirements master: Bump required os-brick to 2.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/52225313:48
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prometheanfirelooks like octata at least doesn't install from constraints from doc builds21:16
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